I am talking about the seats that Pitt controls. There are only what, 20k season ticket holders at best. That Is probably even a high estimate.Can you explain how Pitt can control what other people list their tickets for on the secondary market?
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I am talking about the seats that Pitt controls. There are only what, 20k season ticket holders at best. That Is probably even a high estimate.Can you explain how Pitt can control what other people list their tickets for on the secondary market?
I am talking about the seats that Pitt controls. There are only what, 20k season ticket holders at best. That Is probably even a high estimate.Can you explain how Pitt can control what other people list their tickets for on the secondary market?
Well, I found 2 Pitt fans to buy 2 of my extras at face value! I can vouch for SMF's account of the scalping racket. My neighbor was a PGH Police detective 10-15 years ago when a major scalping ring was busted. Some dirty cops and former cops were involved.
LOL! Like I said they control the price and number of tickets released. For instance I like to sit in section 106, and Stubhub will say, Hurry there are only 6 tickets left!!!! As soon as those 6 are gone, 20 more get released by the school. It is like clockwork. Trust me, I watch this closely. Then I get to the game and the section that was supposedly close to being sold out on stubhub is only 1/5 full.Pitt has few, if any tickets listed on Stubhub
Then they are throwing good money away because lowers are selling like hotcakes.
And its not possible to have only 20K people at an event with secondary market values this high. What happens is the people who weren't going to go, all of a sudden find out how much their tickets are worth and sell them.
LOL! Like I said they control the price and number of tickets released. For instance I like to sit in section 106, and Stubhub will say, Hurry there are only 6 tickets left!!!! As soon as those 6 are gone, 20 more get released by the school. It is like clockwork. Trust me, I watch this closely. Then I get to the game and the section that was supposedly close to being sold out on stubhub is only 1/5 full.
If the lower bowl is really sold out, which I don't believe, then the season ticket holders are pathetic. The lower bowl turnout hasn't been any good in years.It is only half full, because the season ticket holders stayed home. The lower bowl is practically sold out for all games through season tickets [as are the Clubs]. Pitt has little to no inventory in these sections to sell, even if they wanted to do so. So your observations are largely completely wrong. The price in the Club and lower bowl is driven by those season ticket holders that list their tickets [and the demand for the game]. Hail to Pitt!
Miami doesn't even fill their NFL stadium eitherDo Miami fans travel?
If the lower bowl is really sold out, which I don't believe, then the season ticket holders are pathetic. The lower bowl turnout hasn't been any good in years.
PITTLAW how many people do you project for the Miami game. I ask you since you're one of the few intelligent, somewhat sane, and reliable posters on the site.Be certain, the lower bowl is practically sold out [which also includes the bulk of the student seats]. Saying that Pitt's season ticket holders are pathetic is day old bread...that has been known for several decades. Bottom line, Pitt has next to ZERO impact on secondary market place ticket prices. Hail to Pitt!
I had 4 lower bowl extras in my group on Stubhub for days for UNC with the minimum allowed listing price of $6 and they never sold. I am out of town Friday and sold all 7 of my seats and then sold the 4 freebies from Pitt within an hour or less of each posting for $30+ per seat.
PITTLAW how many people do you project for the Miami game. I ask you since you're one of the few intelligent, somewhat sane, and reliable posters on the site.
Gotta be Miami fans. I'm the only one going in my party of 4. Everyone else is working/spending time with family and I can't give my extras away. I've asked over 30 people who are Pitt grads and/or casual fans and there is zero interest in this game.
A couple observations before I answer. First, Pitt has never drawn particularly well on the day after Thanksgiving, unless it was a big rival game [or for a conference championship]. Second, Pitt nearly always gets a bit smaller crowd when it is a 12 kick. Other factors to consider, you have a 4-7 record, weather is supposed to be sunny and mid/upper 40's, big name and ranked opponent, lack of Pitt star power on the roster, and finally--students are on Thanksgiving break. My estimate is they will announce 38,000. I do not think Pitt is quite as bad as it used to be in providing attendance figures, but I still think they choose a number higher than what is really there. Hope I am wrong...but I expect about half a house. Hail to Pitt!
I think the issue is that my seats are up high in the EZ, not really the best seats. I have one left but my bro-in-law says he might take it. He said the same thing for NC and I ate it when he stiffed me at the last minute. I easily found 4 people for the freebies last week. I invited a bunch of German exchange students that I know. They enjoyed the Alma Mater and little else.That's weird. I have family members out of town and returning college students in neighborhood asked if I could get them tickets. I snatched up the four extra and gave to those kids. I also gave 4 to work associates and still bringing 4 people. I can use those tickets
Well, I found 2 Pitt fans to buy 2 of my extras at face value! I can vouch for SMF's account of the scalping racket. My neighbor was a PGH Police detective 10-15 years ago when a major scalping ring was busted. Some dirty cops and former cops were involved.
Why would someone spend the money for season tickets and not go? If you are a passionate fan you support your team through thick and thin. It blows my mind. Especially when it is a team like Pitt Football where you know that you can buy tickets to any game you want, on the secondary market, at anytime for most likely a cheaper price than even the season ticket discount (I'm not even factoring in the donation for lower level).
Until the tarps arrive and capacity shrinks, I have no idea what someone's motivation would be for buying a season ticket.
Why would someone spend the money for season tickets and not go? If you are a passionate fan you support your team through thick and thin. It blows my mind. Especially when it is a team like Pitt Football where you know that you can buy tickets to any game you want, on the secondary market, at anytime for most likely a cheaper price than even the season ticket discount (I'm not even factoring in the donation for lower level).
Until the tarps arrive and capacity shrinks, I have no idea what someone's motivation would be for buying a season ticket.
That's why I say season ticket holders who don't go are either rich, stupid, or both.
Ticket values are rapidly increasing on Stubhub. I sold my 4 free ones for $39.99 each but probably should have waited. May have been able to get $50 or $60 each.
The Pitt website does not have any lowers available. I am wondering if long-suffering bandwagon Miami fans within a 5-6 hour radius are all coming. 10K Miami fans? 15K? 50K total?
Ticket values are rapidly increasing on Stubhub. I sold my 4 free ones for $39.99 each but probably should have waited. May have been able to get $50 or $60 each.
The Pitt website does not have any lowers available. I am wondering if long-suffering bandwagon Miami fans within a 5-6 hour radius are all coming. 10K Miami fans? 15K? 50K total?
Are you just flat out lying or trying to make a joke? Scalpers are illegal everywhere. However, every major event I've ever been to has what we refer to as scalpers. These are people that either buy and resell tickets at the event AND/OR have a set of season ticket holders that ask them to resell as best they can at the event. At Beaver Stadium you'll find the vast majority of said "scalpers" outside the North East gate, usually along Park Avenue and Porter Road. They are there because most of the lots in that area are general public parking and those are the mostly people to need tickets.Penn State doesn't allow them. Why do you think that is?
Send Uncle Ralph who's the most worthless family member so it he get's "offed" noone will miss him!Sean, How do you deliver those tickets?
Selling tickets on the street corner is legal in Pittsburgh. So long as they are sold for face value or less. Selling them for above face value is scalping, and that is illegal.
That is absolutely, positively NOT the way the scalping law is.
First of all, in the state of Pennsylvania there is NO limit on the amount of money a scalper can charge for a ticket. None. The old law used to be no more than 25% above face value, but that law was replaced a decade ago. Secondly, in Pittsburgh you supposedly need to have a license to sell tickets on the street, but there are no more than a couple of people who ever apply for the license. And if you are scalping in person and you do not have a license you are supposed to only sell your tickets in a designated area. On the North Side that area is between the two stadium, underneath one of the overpasses, on Tony Dorsett Drive. Pretty much no one ever stands in the designated zone to sell their tickets, because there is no real foot traffic in that area.
Mrs Buffett and I have witnessed scalpers who wander ( out of their area) down the walkway to the stadium attempting to sell tickets and the Great and I mean Great Pittsburgh police arrest them and drag them away!
The scalpers like the "fake" homeless on that same walkway should be removed!
That is absolutely, positively NOT the way the scalping law is.
First of all, in the state of Pennsylvania there is NO limit on the amount of money a scalper can charge for a ticket. None. The old law used to be no more than 25% above face value, but that law was replaced a decade ago. Secondly, in Pittsburgh you supposedly need to have a license to sell tickets on the street, but there are no more than a couple of people who ever apply for the license. And if you are scalping in person and you do not have a license you are supposed to only sell your tickets in a designated area. On the North Side that area is between the two stadium, underneath one of the overpasses, on Tony Dorsett Drive. Pretty much no one ever stands in the designated zone to sell their tickets, because there is no real foot traffic in that area.
Amen.Some of us buy season tickets to support the team, student athletes, program and University. Some of us like sitting in the same place, where we have made friends, clients and acquaintances with others who support the Panthers. Frankly, if you are a Pitt fan, I CANNOT UNDERSTAND why you WOULD NOT BUY SEASON TICKETS. Season tickets are a bargain, and if you cannot use them, there is always a secondary market for those tickets [especially if you have seats located in a good location]. Pitt's problem is that there are too many people like you...rather than those of us that bleed blue and gold and buy tickets from Pitt. Hail to Pitt!
That's why I say season ticket holders who don't go are either rich, stupid, or both.
I have had season tickets on 2 separate occasions, bub. But then I realized it made no sense when I could buy better seats to almost every game for 6 to 10 bucks.Some of us buy season tickets to support the team, student athletes, program and University. Some of us like sitting in the same place, where we have made friends, clients and acquaintances with others who support the Panthers. Frankly, if you are a Pitt fan, I CANNOT UNDERSTAND why you WOULD NOT BUY SEASON TICKETS. Season tickets are a bargain, and if you cannot use them, there is always a secondary market for those tickets [especially if you have seats located in a good location]. Pitt's problem is that there are too many people like you...rather than those of us that bleed blue and gold and buy tickets from Pitt. Hail to Pitt!
I have had season tickets on 2 separate occasions, bub. But then I realized it made no sense when I could buy better seats to almost every game for 6 to 10 bucks.