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Bulldogs were 3-0 today... all as underdogs

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11-seed Gonzaga
9-seed Butler
12-seed Yale

All with Bulldog mascots.

Always bet on the Bulldogs.
 
Actually Fresno State ruined a good stat. 3-1 is still pretty good for the breed.
 
as an aside, Bulldog fanatics always say to get a bulldog, they are the best pets....

But fans of other breeds say don't get a bulldog but like other breed of dogs also......it is a weird phenomenon
 
Butler and Gonzaga were both favored.


Correct. Gonzaga was a two point favorite. Butler was a 3-1/2 point favorite.

Oddly enough, right now the Gonzaga-Utah game is a pick 'em at most places. If the point spread on a 11 seed versus a 3 seed being a pick 'em doesn't tell you how badly the committee screwed up the bracket I don't know what will.
 
Correct. Gonzaga was a two point favorite. Butler was a 3-1/2 point favorite.

Oddly enough, right now the Gonzaga-Utah game is a pick 'em at most places. If the point spread on a 11 seed versus a 3 seed being a pick 'em doesn't tell you how badly the committee screwed up the bracket I don't know what will.

Maybe because the point spreads are based, at least somewhat, on how a team is currently playing..... while the seeds are based on looking at the whole season as a whole.

At the end of the season, Gonzaga was playing like a 5 or 6 seed. But the committee doesn't seed based on just how a team is doing at the end.

Gonzaga's season... taken as a whole... was worthy of a 10- or 11-seed.

But their play over the past 3 weeks has been much better than that.
 
as an aside, Bulldog fanatics always say to get a bulldog, they are the best pets....

But fans of other breeds say don't get a bulldog but like other breed of dogs also......it is a weird phenomenon
Never really liked their look until a good friend rescued a bulldog. What a sweetheart. I'm a fan.
 
Never really liked their look until a good friend rescued a bulldog. What a sweetheart. I'm a fan.
My brother has a bulldog.

The thing farts and slobbers constantly.

Just like my brother.
 
Maybe because the point spreads are based, at least somewhat, on how a team is currently playing..... while the seeds are based on looking at the whole season as a whole.

At the end of the season, Gonzaga was playing like a 5 or 6 seed. But the committee doesn't seed based on just how a team is doing at the end.

Gonzaga's season... taken as a whole... was worthy of a 10- or 11-seed.

But their play over the past 3 weeks has been much better than that.


Gonzaga's season, as a whole, has been better than Utah's season, as a whole. That's the reason that both Sagarin and Pomeroy also have Gonzaga as the favorite.

I'm not saying that Gonzaga should have been all that much better than an 11, but Utah is not one of the top 12 teams in the country, which is what their seed suggests. And they aren't even all that particularly close to that good.
 
Gonzaga's season, as a whole, has been better than Utah's season, as a whole. That's the reason that both Sagarin and Pomeroy also have Gonzaga as the favorite.

I'm not saying that Gonzaga should have been all that much better than an 11, but Utah is not one of the top 12 teams in the country, which is what their seed suggests. And they aren't even all that particularly close to that good.

Utah's RPI: 9
Gonzaga's RPI: 46

If you need any further proof as to how much weight the committee gives RPI compared to other metrics, there's your proof.

There really needs to be a move to scrap the RPI as a tool for measuring anything.
 
Utah's RPI: 9
Gonzaga's RPI: 46

If you need any further proof as to how much weight the committee gives RPI compared to other metrics, there's your proof.

There really needs to be a move to scrap the RPI as a tool for measuring anything.


You'll certainly get no argument from me on that.
 
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