in a few weeks or so.....
How does it go down?
Assistants let go?
I don't recall ever hearing her state what her expectations for the football program are....unless I missed it.
If you have 5-7 level fan support and the resulting 6-6 level financial support from the university, how could any leader demand higher than a 7/8 win level output?Don't you think Lyke should have expectations for PN and the football program ? I do.
Otherwise PN isn't accountable to anything except what he thinks which might not match up to his bosses expectations.
As one poster said - why would any sane fan want this staff altered?
Extend everyone - because stability.
If you have 5-7 level fan support and the resulting 6-6 level financial support from the university, how could any leader demand higher than a 7/8 win level output?
That said, next year is THE year with a senior QB, lots of offensive and HOPEFULLY defensive returnees. The expectation should be there for a better than standard-quo performance. I'd let Narduzzi roll with the staff of his choosing knowing this. If grumpy grandpa OC is his man, so be it. If the OL and RB/ST coaches are cutting it in his mind, so be it. I'd personally alter the latter, but we have two nice RB recruits on verbal, so I'd want to be damn confident they are committed to PITT before replacing their position coach.
I like Pickett a lot more than most. You eliminate half the drops, get him a TE that can catch, an even AVERAGE running game and some coaching that knows what the hell they are doing calling plays inside the 20 and he would have had one of the best seasons a Pitt QB has had this decade, IMO. I'm hoping the red zone issues are related to zero confidence in the run game and they solve for each other next year.
Don't you think Lyke should have expectations for PN and the football program ? I do.
Otherwise PN isn't accountable to anything except what he thinks which might not match up to his bosses expectations.
I would think the conversation should begin with "Pat, you have had 5 seasons here and have yet to finish in the Top 25. The expectation is next year must have a top 25 finish or we must reevaluate the entire football operation"
I don't think a Top 25 finish is an unreasonable goal in a 6 year time span given that the program he inherited was far from a "dumpster fire" and Chryst "stabilized" the program as many here like to point out. To not improve on that after six years....well I think it is time to move on. Pretty much anyone can come in and be 6-6, what's the harm in trying?
I don't like top 25 because it is kind of arbitrary. There are a whole slew of reasons why we could have a good season but be left out. For example, what if we win 9 games but the ACC is just really terrible? I think most would agree that 9 would be a success.
We should be able to hit at least 8 wins. An ACC Coastal Championship is also a realistic, but I think unnecessary, goal. Win at least 8 and he stays. Win 7 and the ACC Coastal and he stays. Anything less and he goes.
Most seasons a 9-4 should get you ranked but yeah it is not always cut & dry. A win over ND and 9-4 should do the trick. Another 7-5 Coastal championship? I guess, but that is so Pitt and does little to move the needle with the fan base. But you can't move on from a coach who won the Coastal so that is actually the worse possible scenario to play out.
Kodak Corp had stability for many years, same management, same company until they were to stupid and comfortable in their jobs to figure out they were about to go out of business which happened.As one poster said - why would any sane fan want this staff altered?
Extend everyone - because stability.
Kodak Corp had stability for many years, same management, same company until they were to stupid and comfortable in their jobs to figure out they were about to go out of business which happened.
Stability is great as long as the management team is competent and progressing.
PITT needs some help in recruiting, developing players, offensive game plans and lately it seems the D is slipping.
PITT football needs stability and competency!
Not sure how they achieve that goal but Lyke is paid to figure that out!
You eliminate half the drops, get him a TE that can catch, an even AVERAGE running game and some coaching that knows what the hell they are doing calling plays inside the 20 and he would have had one of the best seasons a Pitt QB has had this decade,
I don't like top 25 because it is kind of arbitrary. There are a whole slew of reasons why we could have a good season but be left out. For example, what if we win 9 games but the ACC is just really terrible? I think most would agree that 9 would be a success.
We should be able to hit at least 8 wins. An ACC Coastal Championship is also a realistic, but I think unnecessary, goal. Win at least 8 and he stays. Win 7 and the ACC Coastal and he stays. Anything less and he goes.
If you have 5-7 level fan support and the resulting 6-6 level financial support from the university, how could any leader demand higher than a 7/8 win level output?
That said, next year is THE year with a senior QB, lots of offensive and HOPEFULLY defensive returnees. The expectation should be there for a better than standard-quo performance. I'd let Narduzzi roll with the staff of his choosing knowing this. If grumpy grandpa OC is his man, so be it. If the OL and RB/ST coaches are cutting it in his mind, so be it. I'd personally alter the latter, but we have two nice RB recruits on verbal, so I'd want to be damn confident they are committed to PITT before replacing their position coach.
I like Pickett a lot more than most. You eliminate half the drops, get him a TE that can catch, an even AVERAGE running game and some coaching that knows what the hell they are doing calling plays inside the 20 and he would have had one of the best seasons a Pitt QB has had this decade, IMO. I'm hoping the red zone issues are related to zero confidence in the run game and they solve for each other next year.
Kodak Corp had stability for many years, same management, same company until they were to stupid and comfortable in their jobs to figure out they were about to go out of business which happened.
Stability is great as long as the management team is competent and progressing.
PITT needs some help in recruiting, developing players, offensive game plans and lately it seems the D is slipping.
PITT football needs stability and competency!
Not sure how they achieve that goal but Lyke is paid to figure that out!
If I'm the OC, the two areas of focus for Kenny in the offseason are: 1) learning to occasionally throw a touch pass 2) studying film an hour a day. He needs to read the defensive coverage better at the line so he's not stuck focused on option #1 and #2 most of the time and can be more decisive.I don't hate Pickett as much as some either. He had to have the most drops of any QB where the ball was catchable. We make half those catches and extend drives I would bet we win 2 if not 3 more games. Other than VT we could have won any game this year but always at a big time we'd have a drop ending a drive or killing momentum. It's not to say he doesn't need to get better because he does and throw balls more accurately but a lot of the drops were killers.
If I'm the OC, the two areas of focus for Kenny in the offseason are: 1) learning to occasionally throw a touch pass 2) studying film an hour a day. He needs to read the defensive coverage better at the line so he's not stuck focused on option #1 and #2 most of the time and can be more decisive.
I know I made a thread on it before, not too successfully, but it is a very interesting question: as long as we're not likely to beat Clemson for a conference title with them as possibly the best team in the country, what the hell is the actual reasonable yet aspirational goal of the head coach?
I like the idea of something like "you need some top 25 finishes." Division titles more than once every 7 years (which would be exactly average). A decent bowl win. A double digit win year. You need some sort of metrics, and I'm not sure exactly what they are.
Which one are you? Asking for a friend.It's a trick question. The sane fans abandoned ship years ago. All that's left are morons and masochists.
Jamie left on his ownLOL!!!!
Improvements like letting Dave Wannstedt and Jamie Dixon go so Pitt can improve.
Basketball is still in recovery mode for the next 5 year.
Although Narduzzi must know that the offense needs to be improved. Matt Canada sitting unemployed.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
He beat Ohio he beat Delaware (with a shitload of players out)
Other coaches at Pitt have lost those games
Harping on either is moronic
TrueJamie left on his own
He is far too comfortable and his glib attitude is wearing thin.If Lyke has any managerial skill she will review his year with PN and give him a Below Expectations rating. We all know what that means, well most of us on the site do, some probably don't.
That means you're on the clock, and you have one more year to show significant improvement or you are out the door.
So she'll ask Narduzzi to submit his narrative of expectations for next year and two years out and after she reads that she'll provide him with her and PITT's expectations for next year and two years out.
If they don't match up trouble in River City for PN.
If I was Lyke he gets next year to have a 8 min - 9 or 10 win season and a ACC Coastal Div championship or he will be out.
Good aggressive goal for PN. If he gets close she can always back off on the ACC Coastal Div Champion but its a weak division and an attainable goal for the PITT hc.
PN needs some official motivation, he's way to comfortable and flip.
Oh yea I'd also tell him to "shut up and coach" until you reach greater heights in college football.
People hate to listen to others in the basement complaining about things.
Jamie left on his own
Encouraged by the AD who then left Pitt.
Jamie's record at Pitt was 286-86 with 12 NCAA Tournament appearances.
How many more (years 4 and counting) will Pitt have to wait for its next NCAA invite.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!!
I do think about this quite often. The bar is very high to see “improvement”Encouraged by the AD who then left Pitt.
Jamie's record at Pitt was 286-86 with 12 NCAA Tournament appearances.
How many more (years 4 and counting) will Pitt have to wait for its next NCAA invite.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!!
Actually to be honest that's not something I would put on my resume if I was PN.
All that means is Narduzzi followed a total bunch of incompetents at PITT who should have won a lot of the games they lost.
Kinda like Capel telling everyone he won games Stallings lost.
He'd get a So What Look! You better! Or you're toast too!
Does Narduzzi answer to Lyke or does Lyke answer to Narduzzi?
He had to have the most drops of any QB where the ball was catchable.