Enos

[thebadby2]

An unproven OC who led Clemson to the most points in a season in school history

Did so well there the whole college football world was beating down the door to hire him away from his position coach gig at Bama.

How many OC offers did he have over those 6 years since Dabo canned him anyway? I lost count.

Some of you guys are funny. You hear a name , become fixated on it, convince yourselves this name you'd never previously heard in your lives is the second coming and the savior of Pitt football, and then advocate for the guy like you're his agent or brother.

Do you not see the absurdity of this?

 

[sherepower]

Did so well there the whole college football world was beating down the door to hire him away from his position coach gig at Bama.

How many OC offers did he have over those 6 years since Dabo canned him anyway? I lost count.

Some of you guys are funny. You hear a name , become fixated on it, convince yourselves this name you'd never previously heard in your lives is the second coming and the savior of Pitt football, and then advocate for the guy like you're his agent or brother.

Do you not see the absurdity of this?

Amen

 

[Pittx9]

Saban has a new o-coordinator almost yearly. If we get a good coordinator, makes no difference if he leaves after one year or not. Way different than a head coach leaving, in that regard you absolutely need stability. But Pitt simply can not afford to pass on the best option if they find someone like that just because they're afraid he might leave.

 

[Jpripper88]

Apparenrly he didn't learn enough to be allowed to sniff the OC job or call any plays the past 6 seasons during which Bama has gone through no less than 4 OCs. That's just what we need-a defense only head coach who has no hand in the offense and an unproven OC. Brilliant.

You usually are a good poster, but this is very misinformed and disingenuous or just shows disconnection from reality. Billy Napier could have been an OC during this time, if he wanted. He wanted to work for and learn from Nick Saban. I'd say that is a better choice than working at a middling program for a coach switching coordinators. He tried that once for Dabo and was too young and too inexperienced. Both have learned a lot and are much better for it. Before Dabo tried to run a power play on him, Napier called plays for arguably the best offense in Clemson's history. He did that with a FR QB. Both were young coaches and Dabo wanted more control and it lead to problems with communication. Dabo had the power, so Napier got the axe. Napier went on to be AHC at CSU and then to work for the best coach in college football.

He has been at Alabama the past 4 (not 6) years. The first year already had a sitting OC when he was hired. After Nussmeier was let go, Saban hired Lane Kiffin. Are you actually suggesting that Napier not getting the job over Lane Kiffin shows him to not be worthy as Pitt's OC? The only other time the OC was replaced was this year when Kiffin was pushed out and Sark has been given the job. Napier was strongly considered, but Saban chose the guy who was a former USC HC with much more experience making calls and the safer choice, in case he had to replace Kiffin immediately during the 2016 season. Guess what happened? Kiffin douched it up and didn't do his job, so he got booted quicker than originally planned and they did need Sark to step right in.

I think either Enos (although he certainly isn't a proven top OC, just one of many solid options) or Napier would be good hires for Pitt. We aren't going to find a unicorn or hire someone away from an NFL coordinator position or former P5 HC, like Alabama can. I would imagine you would agree anyone who thinks we could is a bumbling idiot.

 

[TD_istheman]

He hasn't called plays in 6 years, 6!!!!! , and not blowing blue and gold happy smoke up pitts asssss, every good, questionable , bad decision they make , doesn't make you a bad poster!

Badby2, should be worried , we all should wonder, he isn't a lock to be any good , he might be might not be, but with a million bucks , get a proven playcaller please

 

[Jpripper88]

Did so well there the whole college football world was beating down the door to hire him away from his position coach gig at Bama.

How many OC offers did he have over those 6 years since Dabo canned him anyway? I lost count.

Some of you guys are funny. You hear a name , become fixated on it, convince yourselves this name you'd never previously heard in your lives is the second coming and the savior of Pitt football, and then advocate for the guy like you're his agent or brother.

Do you not see the absurdity of this?

He wasn't at Alabama for 6 years. He was there as an analyst for one year after being fired from Clemson. Then he was AHC at CSU for a year. He has been back at Alabama for 4 years. He has had opportunities to leave, but has stayed to learn under Saban for the past couple years, rather than jump back at an OC job at lesser programs. He was hoping to succeed Kiffin, when he was pushed out, but he was obviously passed over for Sark, a former P5 (and top 5 job) HC and very successful former OC. At least know the real story behind things.

Who is a better (reasonably attainable) candidate?

 

[Jpripper88]

He hasn't called plays in 6 years, 6!!!!! , and not blowing blue and gold smoke up putts asssss, every dumb decision or good one they make , doesn't make you a bad poster!

Badby2, should be worried , we all should wonder, he isn't a shoe in to be any good , he might be , but with a million bucks , get a proven playcaller please

Who said he was?

Who is a better (reasonably attainable) candidate?

 

[TD_istheman]

You usually are a good poster, but this is very misinformed and disingenuous or just shows disconnection from reality. Billy Napier could have been an OC during this time, if he wanted. He wanted to work for and learn from Nick Saban. I'd say that is a better choice than working at a middling program for a coach switching coordinators. He tried that once for Dabo and was too young and too inexperienced. Both have learned a lot and are much better for it. Before Dabo tried to run a power play on him, Napier called plays for arguably the best offense in Clemson's history. He did that with a FR QB. Both were young coaches and Dabo wanted more control and it lead to problems with communication. Dabo had the power, so Napier got the axe. Napier went on to be AHC at CSU and then to work for the best coach in college football.

He has been at Alabama the past 4 (not 6) years. The first year already had a sitting OC when he was hired. After Nussmeier was let go, Saban hired Lane Kiffin. Are you actually suggesting that Napier not getting the job over Lane Kiffin shows him to not be worthy as Pitt's OC? The only other time the OC was replaced was this year when Kiffin was pushed out and Sark has been given the job. Napier was strongly considered, but Saban chose the guy who was a former USC HC with much more experience making calls and the safer choice, in case he had to replace Kiffin immediately during the 2016 season. Guess what happened? Kiffin douched it up and didn't do his job, so he got booted quicker than originally planned and they did need Sark to step right in.

I think either Enos (although he certainly isn't a proven top OC, just one of many solid options) or Napier would be good hires for Pitt. We aren't going to find a unicorn or hire someone away from an NFL coordinator position or former P5 HC, like Alabama can. I would imagine you would agree anyone who thinks we could is a bumbling idiot.

So you determine quality posters by how much they poop unicorns and rainbows on behalf of Pitt, blindly, right or wrong, got you. This guy might be great, good, bad , horrible , but if we have a million to spend, WVU just paid 900 a year , we should get someone more accomplished, not been out of calling plays for 6 years, yes 6 going on 7. Pitt should not be training grounds, we should be past this if we are serious about winning. This is how the pirates do business.

 

[vegasgreed]

exactly, i have no problem with a poster who doesn't like a coach, but at least provide a solution. this poster is not the only one doing this. guys are saying all these guys suck but will not give a thumbs up to any coach. what are they afraid of?

Who said he was?

Who is a better (reasonably attainable) candidate?

 

[thebadby2]

You usually are a good poster, but this is very misinformed and disingenuous or just shows disconnection from reality. Billy Napier could have been an OC during this time, if he wanted. He wanted to work for and learn from Nick Saban. I'd say that is a better choice than working at a middling program for a coach switching coordinators. He tried that once for Dabo and was too young and too inexperienced. Both have learned a lot and are much better for it. Before Dabo tried to run a power play on him, Napier called plays for arguably the best offense in Clemson's history. He did that with a FR QB. Both were young coaches and Dabo wanted more control and it lead to problems with communication. Dabo had the power, so Napier got the axe. Napier went on to be AHC at CSU and then to work for the best coach in college football.

He has been at Alabama the past 4 (not 6) years. The first year already had a sitting OC when he was hired. After Nussmeier was let go, Saban hired Lane Kiffin. Are you actually suggesting that Napier not getting the job over Lane Kiffin shows him to not be worthy as Pitt's OC? The only other time the OC was replaced was this year when Kiffin was pushed out and Sark has been given the job. Napier was strongly considered, but Saban chose the guy who was a former USC HC with much more experience making calls and the safer choice, in case he had to replace Kiffin immediately during the 2016 season. Guess what happened? Kiffin douched it up and didn't do his job, so he got booted quicker than originally planned and they did need Sark to step right in.

I think either Enos (although he certainly isn't a proven top OC, just one of many solid options) or Napier would be good hires for Pitt. We aren't going to find a unicorn or hire someone away from an NFL coordinator position or former P5 HC, like Alabama can. I would imagine you would agree anyone who thinks we could is a bumbling idiot.

Rip--it comes down to this--our HC has zero offensive background or acumen. SO the coordinator has to be a proven guy, a proven play caller. One good year at Clemson 7 years ago followed by one terrible year at Clemson, followed by several years of coaching a position, do not qualify the guy for this job. If our head coach was an offensive guy like a Brian Kelly or Chris Petersen, that would be different. But our coach is totally hands off with the offense other than to indicate his preference s as far as the type of offense he wants to see.

Narduzzi has hired two longtime veteran play callers to run his offense so far; meanwhile he has had a greenhorn DC running his defense. This is because he still has his hands all over the D, but he isn't involved in the O.

 

[Jpripper88]

So you determine quality posters by how much they poop unicorns and rainbows on behalf of Pitt, blindly, right or wrong, got you. This guy might be great, good, bad , horrible , but if we have a million to spend, WVU just paid 900 a year , we should get someone more accomplished, not been out of calling plays for 6 years, yes 6 going on 7. Pitt should not be training grounds, we should be past this if we are serious about winning. This is how the pirates do business.

Definitely not. The board definitely knows that is not how I operate. Been that way for far, far longer than you have been around.

Who is a better (reasonably attainable) candidate?

 

[thebadby2]

exactly, i have no problem with a poster who doesn't like a coach, but at least provide a solution. this poster is not the only one doing this. guys are saying all these guys suck but will not give a thumbs up to any coach. what are they afraid of?

That's the thing vegas--I don't have a name. And I haven;t surfed the internet to locate some potential names, I waste too much of my workday on the Lair as it is. But the solution is out there somewhere, and it will be a guy who has had a successful run as a pro-style OC for some program--I don't care if it isn't power 5, in fact, many times the best coordinators you can find come from lower levels. Napier hasn't proven $hit with 2 total seasons as an OC under his belt, and I don't get all starry-eyed because he's been hanging around Bama for a few years. The truth is with the talent they have defensively every year, the only thing they need their offense to do is not lose the games for them. Anyone could run it. He won't find the personnel anywhere else, especially at Pitt, that they have to work with at Bama. Look at Nussmeier--he has been a bust ever since he left Bama. he was a bust in one year at Michigan, and he is already on the hot seat at Florida after two totally lackluster offensive seasons. And you think Napier is a good bet?

 

[Jpripper88]

Rip--it comes down to this--our HC has zero offensive background or acumen. SO the coordinator has to be a proven guy, a proven play caller. One good year at Clemson 7 years ago followed by one terrible year at Clemson, followed by several years of coaching a position, do not qualify the guy for this job. If our head coach was an offensive guy like a Brian Kelly or Chris Petersen, that would be different. But our coach is totally hands off with the offense other than to indicate his preference s as far as the type of offense he wants to see.

Narduzzi has hired two longtime veteran play callers to run his offense so far; meanwhile he has had a greenhorn DC running his defense. This is because he still has his hands all over the D, but he isn't involved in the O.

What were the circumstances of that second year? Do you know? I followed it because I know both guys. One of my best friends and high school teammates was recruited by Dabo and played for he and Napier and I have known Napier (only met Dabo once, 13 years ago) through his time at Alabama. He played the 4 years previous to Napier taking over as OC, but obviously remained close to the program as he tried for his cups of coffee in the NFL. In addition, it has been widely reported over the years (especially recently) about the control struggle that occurred in that 2nd year that led to him being fired. Further, Napier has admitted to it and the fact he came to Alabama and stayed to learn from Saban. There is no doubt he wanted the OC job after Kiffin, but he was understandable the bridesmaid and not the bride for a variety of reasons. As an Alabama fan, I wish (because I don't trust Sark) he would have gotten that job.

More than anything, I see many folks naysaying many candidates, but not providing realistic options. I wouldn't say Napier is a home run or a guaranteed success. However, he has P5 coordinator experience with at worst mixed results. He has learned under the best HC in college football and coached with some of the best offensive minds in college football the past few years. He has done that with run heavy philosophies as the focus. Furthermore, he is a fantastic recruiter and would instantly be the best recruiter on Pitt's staff and maybe the best we have had in 25-30 years.

Pitt is not going to find a perfect candidate. Jim Chaney wasn't a perfect candidate. Matt Canada wasn't a perfect candidate. Billy Napier and Dan Enos aren't perfect candidates.

Who is a better (reasonably attainable) candidate?

 

[TD_istheman]

That's the thing vegas--I don't have a name. And I haven;t surfed the internet to locate some potential names, I waste too much of my workday on the Lair as it is. But the solution is out there somewhere, and it will be a guy who has had a successful run as a pro-style OC for some program--I don't care if it isn't power 5, in fact, many times the best coordinators you can find come from lower levels. Napier hasn't proven $hit with 2 total seasons as an OC under his belt, and I don't get all starry-eyed because he's been hanging around Bama for a few years. The truth is with the talent they have defensively every year, the only thing they need their offense to do is not lose the games for them. Anyone could run it. He won't find the personnel anywhere else, especially at Pitt, that they have to work with at Bama. Look at Nussmeier--he has been a bust ever since he left Bama. he was a bust in one year at Michigan, and he is already on the hot seat at Florida after two totally lackluster offensive seasons. And you think Napier is a good bet?

A guy with recent successful play calling experience from a top rated school, even a non power 5 if successful , a million bucks can buy something Duzz feels will help him out. Duzz will get tired of this and go to a program that will allow him to compete without yearly uphaul. Yes top programs have movement but they come take successful ones from us, minor leagues , like Canada , we dive in trash , it's true

 

[TD_istheman]

That's the thing vegas--I don't have a name. And I haven;t surfed the internet to locate some potential names, I waste too much of my workday on the Lair as it is. But the solution is out there somewhere, and it will be a guy who has had a successful run as a pro-style OC for some program--I don't care if it isn't power 5, in fact, many times the best coordinators you can find come from lower levels. Napier hasn't proven $hit with 2 total seasons as an OC under his belt, and I don't get all starry-eyed because he's been hanging around Bama for a few years. The truth is with the talent they have defensively every year, the only thing they need their offense to do is not lose the games for them. Anyone could run it. He won't find the personnel anywhere else, especially at Pitt, that they have to work with at Bama. Look at Nussmeier--he has been a bust ever since he left Bama. he was a bust in one year at Michigan, and he is already on the hot seat at Florida after two totally lackluster offensive seasons. And you think Napier is a good bet?

Dabo didn't , fired him 6 years ago for bottoming out his program after 2 years on offense , and since then, no more experience at calling plays, I guess I'm a Nitter next. No I want Pitt to try and win and go all in not half ass

 

[Jpripper88]

Dabo didn't , fired him 6 years ago for bottoming out his program after 2 years on offense , and since then, no more experience at calling plays, I guess I'm a Nitter next. No I want Pitt to try and win and go all in not half ass

Yeah, that really isn't what happened, so you are making clear you are ill-informed.

Who is a better (reasonably attainable) candidate?

EDIT: You know what? Just: who is a better candidate NATIONALLY? Who cares if they are even attainable.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Yeah, that really isn't what happened, so you are making clear you are ill-informed.

Who is a better (reasonably attainable) candidate?

Most of his posts are streams of semi consciousness.

 

[PhPanther1]

Mike Munchak on line 1, Paging coach Narduzzi, Mike Munchak on line 1.

 

[vegasgreed]

Pitt swipes steelers coaches all the time, how has this not happened yet?

 

[PhPanther1]

Pitt swipes steelers coaches all the time, how has this not happened yet?

That's why the Steelers never draft any Panthers!

 

[Piranha]

Mike Munchak on line 1, Paging coach Narduzzi, Mike Munchak on line 1.

Are u just throwing this out or is this a rumor? He is a great OL Coach, but what experience does he have as an OC?

 

[TD_istheman]

Cal offensive coordinator Jake Spavital will join West Virginia as offensive coordinator, and current OC Joe Wickline will move to offensive line coach, according to Fox Sports’ Bruce Feldman. Spavital was WVU’s quarterbacks coach from 2011-12. Keep track

Even the Hoopies found a decent OC, only took them a week

 

[TD_istheman]

850 a year , their DC makes 900 a year. Sad as hell, when the HOOPIES are more serious about winning. Hope Duzz is waiting cause its a super slash hire

 

[PhPanther1]

850 a year , their DC makes 900 a year. Sad as hell, when the HOOPIES are more serious about winning. Hope Duzz is waiting cause its a super slash hire

Yes, because good coaches are measured by how much money they make. You seem fixated on this for some reason.

 

[Jpripper88]

850 a year , their DC makes 900 a year. Sad as hell, when the HOOPIES are more serious about winning. Hope Duzz is waiting cause its a super slash hire

He is getting $500k a year and he was fired by TAMU last year.