Eric MacLain adamant that CV got the 1st down
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It wasn’t even close either.Well beyond the lead stick.
The entire panel is in agreement that Veilleux got the first down. What a joke.
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He did.
I mean, it was obvious
You can see Christian looking at the yard marker and sliding after it Heck, even the homer wake forest announcers said it was a first down. Not that you need that, it WAS a first down
I think he means on the Wake "TD" at the end, not the slide.
Doesn’t matter. Once he decided to slide when he didn’t need to he put it in the hands of the ref. It’s just as bad if not worse then when Miami ran the ball instead of kneeling and fumbled away the game. To slide and not fall forward or run out of bounds is an inexcusable mistake. The coaches should have been telling him when they called the play.
I think that would be overriding a lot of coaching that tells a QB once you are past the first down marker to slide rather than take a big hit. I do think in this is a case where he could have angled towards running out of bounds beyond the first down marker and still not taken a hit.
That said... What I did like is that Veilleux looked pissed and determined on sideline in shots of him after that call was made. Jurkovec in similar situations looked dispondent and defeated. Maybe I'm reading too much into body language, but Veilleux's "Give me another chance I won't let this happen again." look means a lot to me vs. Jurkovec's "awe jeez, thus is my Homecoming dance and it's raining!" face on the sidelines.
I can see not running out of bounds. They still had 2 timeouts and you are taught not to run oob to keep the clock running.
Maybe get that extra yard befor sliding and not make it so close could be argued.
But still garbage call by the ref.
I think the coaches HAVE to tell the QB the situation before that play, though. It's a QB run towards the sidelines, it was very likely they would come into play. They have to tell an inexperienced QB that it's okay to go OB there. Tell him to worry about getting the 1st and nothing else and that a 1st down ends the game.
But once again, he was CLEARLY past the marker. It should have been first down, game over.
Pitt put themselves in a bad position, no doubt. But the correct call ends the game in Pitt’s favor….
What kills me is that if he dives head first, there's no one even there to hit him. He should have had zero regard for taking a hard hit with no defenders approaching, which is the only reason you should even consider sliding.
He's been in college 3 years. You just have to be smarter and know that.
He's been in college 3 years. You just have to be smarter and know that.
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If you use a time out to review the call, at least you have some time to discuss that idea. Junko was horrific today, that absolutely should have factored into potentially going for it. That said, have you seen our short yardage attempts the past few games? I have zero confidence we could have gotten a foot and a half and they don't even attempt QB sneaks for whatever reason.
You probably have to make their 3rd/4th string QB beat you. Problem is our defense checked out because they thought the game was over previously and Narduzzi continued to blitz late in this game when we clearly were getting zero pressure almost every time.
That's BS. He did EXACTLY the right thing. There's no way he can account for the ref missing the mark by 2 1/2 yards.
I was thinking set on fire, but either way.
I think he had it, but if you look at the screenshots, it was close, at best. Definitely nowhere near 2.5 yards.
A lot of you guys would blame the six year olds for Sandusky raping them.
Pitt stunk and it was an awful performance for the whole game long. You should never need to rely on the refs’ presumed integrity (which everyone knows by now is a very flawed presumption especially in the ACC) against such a bad team.
Veilleux did nothing wrong on that play though.
Pitt stunk and it was an awful performance for the whole game long. You should never need to rely on the refs’ presumed integrity (which everyone knows by now is a very flawed presumption especially in the ACC) against such a bad team.
Veilleux did nothing wrong on that play though.
I don't GAF if he was a yard short... the fact that there wasn't a defender in the same zip code should have made it a don't ask don't tell "double play within the ballpark of the bag" situation. The fact that Clawson was brought to tears after that "win" means he has shoved at least one vegetable up his own anus this past week and enjoyed it tremendously.
Pitt didn't stink. Its defense certainly didn't stink. The only thing that stank was the OL. I've said for several years that Borbely needs to go.
Can't believe that you forced me to watch that again already!
Clearly not 2.5 yards. He made it closer than it needed to be, which is really the end of the story. Not sure they would have even overturned that, although you absolutely MUST challenge it. It's a challenge to win the game. What's there to lose.
If you pause it right before he's at the yellow line, he makes a motion like he's starting to slide. It could be that he's just slowing down as he thinks about the situation and the upcoming slide, but I can understand what the ref might have saw from behind.
Then the ref doesn't know the rule. By rule, he was nearly 1 1/2 yards past the line and the ref marked him 1 yard short. That makes the ref 2 1/2 yards wrong.
NO....NO…NO, under no circumstance do you tell him to go out of bounds! Are we becoming brain dead because of a horrible call?
The defense did stink. 21 points and a dropped touchdown on top of that against a team with an effing linebacker under center and about 20% of its playbook available. A good defense limits them to zero points.
Going out of bounds doesn't get a first down. Crossing the first-down line does. CV did that.
Oh, so now we expect a shutout or consider the defense to have failed. Sounds a little ... unreasonable.
Against a team with o-line troubles and effing Shayne Simon playing quarterback? You're damn right I expect a shutout or something close to it.
No…never when you don’t have to because there’s more than enough grass inbounds. And he had the first down in bounds!
LOL. You're a goofball.
You do know that we lost our best linebacker on the opening kickoff, right?
