Navy-Pitt would be a literally played in Navy's stadium.
It is the 7th ACC bowl... and a tier 2 bowl.... for a reason.
ESPN just projected us to the Military, or get this...
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It is the 7th ACC bowl... and a tier 2 bowl.... for a reason.
Neither of us are selling allotments to bowl games and filling the coffers of host cities. We are all in the same bucket of teams the bowls only take if they have to , not by choice.
I dont disagree. My point is there's no justification for Duke to get the Pinstripe over Pitt if Pitt wants the Pinstripe.
If Duke goes to the Pinstripe ahead of Pitt, it is because Barnes foolishly agreed to it.
So you think he's not even consulting with Narduzzi about it? All this from one blurb in an article?
That's not how it works.
Bowls pick. Just that simple.
Maybe it's a needed reality check for folks here that Pitt doesn't have some big rep.
my point is that if Barnes thinks more Pitt fans will go to Detroit than to any of the tier 1 bowls because it is closer, he is making a serious blunder.
Why would he consult with Narduzzi.
We are going to get offered a bowl and we are going to to accept.
Declining isn't an option
The acc bowls get together and hash out who goes where.
Its not only Pitt, and its more so the Bowl. Pinstripe sponsors had Pa last year with Penn St. Maybe they want Carolina advertising this year? You're overreacting.
I know how it works. And the only way Pitt can drop to a tier 2 bowl is if Barnes and Pitt agree to it. The bowls are specifically put into tiers for a reason. Pitt might not get its best choice for a tier 1 bowl.... but ACC rules state Pitt must get a tier 1 bowl (Music City, Sun, Belk, Pinstripe) unless Pitt agrees to relinquish that and accept a tier 2 bowl.
You are thinking about the old way it was done, which isn't true now. Yes... the bowls pick...but that have a limitation as to which teams they can pick from - and that cant be avoided unless the teams agree to it.
If we're in the MIlitary or Quick Lane or Independence bowl... it is because Barnes agreed to it.
Here is a thought, and I am not one that wants to go to a lower tier bowl for drivability, but maybe Barnes heard multiple fans like SMF b*tching about how the Pinstripe was the day after Christmas, and couldn't possibly make it by leaving the next day at 6 or 7 AM?
With the limitation that:
- The 1st ACC option after the NY6 bowls must get the Russell Athletic, unless they decline.
- The 2nd through 5th ACC options get the Belk, Sun, Music City/Taxslayer, and Pinstripe.... unless they decline.
- The 6th through 8th ACC options get the Quick Lane, Military, and Indepence.
Literally, the only way Pitt can go to the Quick Lane, Military, or Independence bowl this year is if Barnes agrees to it. One of the "Tier 1" bowls MUST take Pitt - unless Pitt volunteers to relinquish their standing as a Tier 1 team.
You're simply wrong, Souf.
Aren't you one that complained about the day after Xmas? That megabus didn't get you there in time?
It may not be that simple. That tier has 4 spots. To get enough teams to fill that pool it could be
pitt 8-4
miami 8-4
ncst 7-5
duke 7-5
ville 7-5
so someone gets pushed down. If 7-5 is needed, all get included as possible. I haven't seen anything otherwise.
I have seen if they include VaTech 6-6 in that group somehow, then an 8-4 can't be one pushed down.
Again, I don't think its just only Barnes picking or choosing.
Just my take.
pitt 8-4
miami 8-4
ncst 7-5
duke 7-5
ville 7-5
so someone gets pushed down. If 7-5 is needed, all get included as possible. I haven't seen anything otherwise.
I have seen if they include VaTech 6-6 in that group somehow, then an 8-4 can't be one pushed down.
Again, I don't think its just only Barnes picking or choosing.
Just my take.
A better matchup, yes. But the problem with it is this:
1. It is a Navy home game. Literally.
2. It is a Tier 2 bowl.... which means Barnes would have to agree to be dropped from Tier 1 to Tier 2. That's a perception issue for me.... Tier 2 games are meant for the 7th through 9th place ACC teams. Tier 1 are meant for the 3rd through 6th ACC teams. The players deserve a Tier 1 bowl.
And aside from Unc and fsu who are going first, there are 5 other teams eligible within 1 rule.
Ncsu to belk is a no brainer for them assuming Unc plays the sun bowl.
Miami , Duke, Pitt, and Louisville .
Keeping Miami in Florida is likely- so taxslayer or Louisville regionally close to Nashville.
So then pinstripe may pick duke... And we've declined nothing but are left back.
Playoff: Clemson
Ny6: ND and FSU
Russell: UNC
Tier 1: Miami, Pitt guaranteed
Tier 1: two of Louisville, NCSU, Duke
Tier 2: one of Louisville, NCSU, Duke
Tier 2: VT
There is no within-one-win rule in the ACC anymore.
If Pitt goes to a tier 2 game, it is because Barnes volunteered.
This is too funny. We'd be better off at 6-6 apparently. I guess a sold out Heinz Field all season for a 6-6 team would've been better than an empty stadium and a 12-0 team when it came time for teams to get selected by bowls. That's what it's seeming like with this ridiculousness.
