Do you realize that all parts interchange? Just saw someone post about Hugley not signing to be a 5. When you run a offense vs man you are constantly screening and balancing the floor-no such thing as a number per player except when the offensive set begins. Vs zone you are going high low post,balancing the floor,overloading a side,etc. You never know where players will be in the movement. If you look at films,etc you will see big men shooting from the perimeter and guards down low. It is the nature of the game. In the 1920s and 30s you could number players because the game was in slow motion. Not today.
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I think Hugley meant that he doesn’t want to be a traditional 5 man, back to the basket, low block, don’t face up or shoot the 3 guy.
Capel: John, you’re gonna play 30 minutes in the post. You’re gonna be required to play within the offense, set screens, rebound, pass, shoot any good open shot from anywhere, and play defense vs a big man. Essentially a 5 man.
John H: Nope. I’m not playing the 5. I told reporters I didn’t want to be a 5.
I’m not sure why people are suddenly confused/upset by Hugley saying that he’s a PF.... that’s always been the case. I’m sure Capel communicated to Hugley what his role on the team was going to be. Everything is fine.
This thread makes it clearly obvious that "cabin fever" has hit this Board very hard. This thread is an argument about something analogous to "how many angels could fit on the head of a pin" as medieval scholastics are said to have engaged in doing.
In reality, there is neither any such thing as solely fixed position basketball nor is their any such thing as fully positionless basketball being coached or played. This whole thread is an argument based solely on semantics by people who have different operating definitions for the same words stuck in their respective brains.
In reality, there is neither any such thing as solely fixed position basketball nor is their any such thing as fully positionless basketball being coached or played. This whole thread is an argument based solely on semantics by people who have different operating definitions for the same words stuck in their respective brains.
everyone talks about how the true center, back to the basket player, is being phased out of the game and every year i see the rare good ones and they are coveted by anyone and everyone in the NBA.. Call them what you want, a 5, a center, a post player, everyone wants one and would trade a dozen wing players for 1 good center..
any college coach that says that they don't want a traditional post player and can make do with positionless players is trying to kid themselves because they don't have a center on their team even though they tried like hell to recruit one..
any college coach that says that they don't want a traditional post player and can make do with positionless players is trying to kid themselves because they don't have a center on their team even though they tried like hell to recruit one..
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You beat me to it. Cabin fever has officially set in.
John and other players fear, rightfully, being pigeonholed in a position in high school or college. Especially when they may not have the size to play that position at the next level.
For John, he has the size to play "center" in high school and even college probably. But I suspect he recognizes that: A) The post-up, back to the basket player is a dying breed in both college and the professional ranks and B) Even if that style comes back into vogue, he'll be a couple inches shorter than the other guys doing it professionally. So he heeds to be more versatile and develop a shot for the next level.
And I don't blame them for looking out for themselves. If you go to a team to box out and rebound, that team may win a few more games, but you' won't develop the skills you need to succeed at the next level. It's a team game and yada yada, but you have to look out for #1 too.
For John, he has the size to play "center" in high school and even college probably. But I suspect he recognizes that: A) The post-up, back to the basket player is a dying breed in both college and the professional ranks and B) Even if that style comes back into vogue, he'll be a couple inches shorter than the other guys doing it professionally. So he heeds to be more versatile and develop a shot for the next level.
And I don't blame them for looking out for themselves. If you go to a team to box out and rebound, that team may win a few more games, but you' won't develop the skills you need to succeed at the next level. It's a team game and yada yada, but you have to look out for #1 too.
Yep.
I know little about organized hoops, but I can tell that everyone wants that "rim protector" as part of their lineup. That would probably be a "traditional center". These positions, from what I hear by analysts, are defensive assignments and are not based on offensive roles.
I remember when Magic played center for the Lakers for a while. It was a big deal at the time.
