Franklin exposed; impact for Pitt
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Great Post with much reality at a Penn state still badly divided and upset Joe is dead and legacy ruined and blame everyone else, and they drove O'Brien away instead of embracing him!
They actually were fairly OK with O'Brien, he was more their "type" of guy. But, he was absolutely creeped out by them. He always wanted to get back to the NFL, but he couldn't get out of State College quick enough.
One has to Dominate Temple and Franklin failed his first test. Next year it is Temple & Pitt and we shall see how in his Third Year Franklin & Staff should have his OL tog4ther and playing his 4 & 5 Star Recruits too! I still think he is a good coach, but no longer think he can beat MSU, OSU, and UM more often than they will be beating him?
If Franklin loses 5 to 6 games this year, and then loses to Pitt and Temple next year, you will see riots on Penn State Campus again? And Jay Paterno will file a another Lawsuit against Penn State again saying, he was not consider for Head Coach job?
During the interview process, Franklin looked carefully at UPS's future schedules. And when he perused the Nits' 2015 schedule, people noticed that he started giggling uncontrollably...he even let out a few guffaws.
He left the room, called his wife and said, "Pack our bags - we're headed North....I just hit the jackpot!"
I don't know about all that, but I can say this much for sure-if I'm a PSU fan, after that game I have a lot of doubts and concern about the HC and the direction of the program. It's not like this is his first year there.
Would love to see them lay an absolute turd this year, but i won't get my hopes up--yet.
Very true and accurate, everyone knows he wanted to go to the NFL and he took the job without knowing they would get Sanctions and stayed and did his job.
But O'Brien absolute hate tirade about being at Penn State and how he feel unappreciated and had nothing but contempt for their Fans that he gave to Dave Jones that night was clearly more honest, straight forward, and far more real than anything can say about going to the NFL. The same vile bile is still there and Franklin will get that too.
Additionally, nothing caused more hate in O'Brien when Jay Paterno went to SI and undermined his Coaching & Changes, and that is what Joe Paterno was known for to when he wanted someone out or wanted to attack a competitor he hated like Sherrill and others?
Jay and the Paterno's are still there and still have Lawsuits and will not be Franklin Fans when and if he stumbles, and no matter what, Sue wants Jay for that Head Coaching Job.
The Trustees, President Barron, AD Barbour, all on in battles with with the divisions at the University and have had to remain silent
to keep their jobs, the place has more land mines from a dead men than his legacy that only lives in Unhappy Valley today.
It is like Moses and the Israelite's that have to wonder 40 Years in the Desert until the older Penn State Cultists created by Paterno dies away? It might take 40 years, but Franklin like Aaron will be under the gun to win big sooner not later?
Another great post that details Franklin's challenge and the pressure Franklin put on himself and has to prove it to some Penn State CULTists doubters that are still upset Franklin was chosen by Trustees, Erickson and Joyner over Golden and Munchak!
I agree, and keep posting your thoughts and reasoning, I enjoy reading them and discussing the subjects with you.
By the way, what do you think Franklin will do this year now? I had him going 8 to 10 Wins and i still think that could happen, but no longer confident until I see the next 4 games?
Isn't funny how we didn't read about that in any of the local newspapers at the time.
Fair statement for these first 6 to 7 games, but Franklin should have a better Offensive Line and winning more games after Game 6 and 7 this year in my opinion. Great Coaches always improve their Teams as the season gets older and players gain more experience. Franklin's team cannot use Sanctions as an excuse after games 7 and 8, just my opinion!
PPG is on death watch due to it being so bad and Kooky-Baloney stay on the Air Ripping on Pitt, so offend no one to sell the papers but Pitt Fans because WVU & PSU Fans will buy them, and listen to 93.7 from 11Am-2Pm.
I would imagine that PPG and KDKA biggest upset and crying tears was when Gallagher FIRED Steve Pederson that was responsible for more problems he caused at Pitt than he he solved and Pitt rebirth and rise will spell doom and gloom for eating crows at KDKA and PPG?
I'll take it a step beyond that. The PPG is pretty much devoid of anything Penn State today. Where is the Cook piece questioning how this could happen? Where is the analysis on Hackenburg under BOB versus The Dominator? You'd think there would be at least a little piece using the sanctions as an excuse.
Heck, even the "flagship" paper in Altoona did a hit piece today.
I don't think many of you pay attention. KDKA's one sports anchor was involved in a heated twitter debate with the TRIB Sports Editor and others who accused him (Rich Walsh) as being a Pitt homer. And Pompeani has always been pro Pitt and a supporter. So KDKA does not have an agenda against Pitt.
And for all the whining and gnashing of teeth over the PG's coverage of Pitt vs PSU and Jerry Micco's, PSU roots, well the Trib's Sports Editor is also a Nit grad.
So......check yinzes facts before you start going here.
If Franklin wins 8 to 9 games this year, and then 10 games the next 2 years, he will be there for 5 to 6 years. If Franklin can win 10+ Games every year beat MSU, UM, and OSU once in a while, he can stay even longer, unless some of the Recruits embarrass him like they did at vendy on Rape Charges?
On the other hand, any repeats of Temple game or losing to Pitt or unable to beat OSU, UM, and MSU, Franklin will leave on his own, and do what he did to Vanderbilt University and Maryland when he left them, take whatever he can get and say Thank You it has been fun, but I have a different mission now.
God help him and he better have his family moved out of State College if he takes away their recruits when he leaves for another Program?
PnnyLion will come out of his Dumpster and Haunt his so long as he lives, once he recovers from his stay in the Hunlock Creek Retreat Mental Hospital from the Temple Beating Penn State Debacle!
Thanks Dan, would love to see some of those Article Posted on the Lair for us to read?
Very true and how I feel about Pitt and Coach Pat & Staff to do their jobs and carry their own water. It is up to Pitt no one else to change Pitt into a 10+ Win Seasons and Top 25 Rankings!
Pederson could not do it, or maintain Nebraska a Top 25 Program let alone build one at Pitt! Now up to Gallagher, Barnes, and Narduzzi to do it at Pitt!
According to Chris Peak, that I respect very much on following all things Pitt, many Top 4 & 5 Star recruits are very much looking at Pitt & Narduzzi for 2016, 2017, and 2018 and one reason is because they play at Pitt easier and faster than say at MSU, OSU, PSU, and Michigan right now?
Yet, it still up to Coach Pat & Staff to win and improve Pitt at the very time Holgrosen is winning at WVU and Franklin is out recruiting everyone in the Northeast?
Losing Conner did not help, bringing in a new staff is not easy, and becoming a First year Head Coach has ups and downs! But still on Pitt!
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So you are saying the Hamlin's and Jeters and Pughs are second tier guys? We are already engaged with James from State College for these guys.
Barkley will keep Sanders on the Penn State Bench for 2 years! But at Pitt Sanders will play in first year! Up to Sanders to see it and believe it, wish him well anyplace he chooses.
To the Joebots, "denial" is a river in Africa.
Right. And many of them continue to drown in it.
You mean like the Pitt mob is always willing to do, right? Guys are already carping on our OC for God's sake.
Since Franklin has been at PSU, I've been amused by the people saying that he won't be there long because he'll be off to the NFL. With his enormous EGO, I can see Franklin wanting to go to the NFL, but for a guy whose strength is recruiting and whose actual coaching ability is highly suspect - why in the heck would an NFL team want this guy???
Go Pitt.
You Are Correct Sir!Penn Staters will change anything that reflects badly on UnHappy Valley, the key now is to see if O'Brien grabs or talks Hackenberg into leaving Franklin and come to the NFL? Hackenberg giving up on Penn State will say much of what Penn Staters may not want to hear too!
Hackenberg would be a Star at Wisconsin under Chryst, Dantonio, Harbaugh, Edsall, Fitzgerald, Rhule, or Meyers and Narduzzi!
No one mention Pomp from Hopewell, or Walsh, just Kooky-Baloney and you forgot to mention them on your retort, Starkey, Zeise, and Colin give better props to Pitt on KDKA than Kooky-Baloney.
Trib is always more fair about all schools the PPG has stated publicly they sell more papers when WVU & PSU beat Pitt than when Pitt beats them?
Obrien was screwed for the reason that you never want to be the first person to follow a legendary coach (in their minds anyways). Sort of like being the first guy to date a girl after she just got out of a serious relationship.. Never be the "rebound guy".
It was a mutual quickie ... He wanted the HC experience for his resume for his NFL HC shot, they needed someone to deal with the transition/Sandusky mess. The school and he both got what they wanted. But, dealing with the height of "cultishness" during that time frame, he probably will never step foot there again if he can avoid it ...
They are guaranteed 7-5 unless the whole team develops malaria or something...I'm guessing that if he starts winning soon, the love affair will commence and it all will all be wonderful again. But if there are more "Temple-type" games that follow, The Cult won't take too kindly to it.
Looking at their schedule, it's so weak that even this putrid team will win enough to be bowl eligible. Their next games are against Buffalo, Rutgers, San Diego State, Army, and Indiana - and they're all at home! (How do they get a schedule like that???)
Then they have back-to-back away games @ Ohio State and Maryland; back home versus Illinois; @ Northwestern; back home versus Michigan; then they wrap-up their regular season @ their "designated rival" Michigan State. Right now, it looks like they're gonna go "bowling", no matter how bad it gets.
Kudos to Temple's #35. That was a text book example of a relentless pass rush.All that needs to be said about Penn State is right here...
Worse than I remembered this play. It was actually 6 Nitters trying to block 2 Owls, and the Owl won! Hackenberg is going to get killed this year. Another theory is he's such a dick they are doing this on purpose to get rid of him!
...and if you watch the play again, you'll see that if the first guy hadn't succeeded in tackling him, the second guy had Hackenberg in his sights and would've buried him, too. Hack's lucky that the second guy didn't go for the cheap-shot (late hit) and pulled-up.
All that needs to be said about Penn State is right here...
Honestly, how is a kid starting at LT for a program that big play on his heels? Just terrible technique.
Thanks Dan, would love to see some of those Article Posted on the Lair for us to read?
Forgive me for my omission sir...
http://www.altoonamirror.com/page/b...onovan--Hand-know-how-to-use-Hackenberg-.html
The Hackenberg missed-touchdown pass that Geiger refers to --- in retrospect that may be the play of the season. The very next play is when Nyeem Wartman got hurt, season-ending injury. Huge loss for PSU.
Michnittlion, good points, Paterno used to teach that 4 to 6 Plays usually decides a Football game because making a key TD play or breaking up a TD play, often changes the game Plan of the other Team!
I am still of the opinion that Coach Franklin & Staff got caught napping and did not prepare the Team for the Temple Game, while Rhule did the exact opposite and created a great Game Plan and had his Players ready to execute it.
I am still miffed and lost on not understanding why the Penn State OL is so bad after last year and this years practices??? Yet, I believe against Buffalo and at home coach Franklin will be ready, the Players too, and the Game Plan will be pain for Buffalo Players. The OL will be way better too because there will be be big improvement in the OL and Defense won't tired as much in heat?
Any predictions for the game and season?
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