Game Attendance by Pitt fans?
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I understand if distance is an issue that attendance can be a hardship. That's not really the probkem with a lot of the people on this Board. If you can't "endure" a 3 hour drive to watch a game you're a pretty luke warm fan... I don't care what you say.
meh, some people like watching games on their tvs, if that makes em lukewarm, guess they'll have to figure out a way to live with that title.
This is where I will respectfully disagree with you. I think MUCH of what holds Pitt back is money and the decisions made directly because of the lack of money pushed into the athletic coffers. And if you follow the circular logic back, this is why it is absolutely imperative that those fans who live far away, or have difficulty attending games or buying tickets MUST donate. Money drives the bus in college athletics. It is an undeniable truth of "amateur" athletics. And Pitt routinely finds itself woefully behind its peers in the money collection business. It's no wonder Pitt remains woefully behind its peers in performance as well. There is a direct parallel between those truths that should be self evident.
more money will help no doubt but this stuff is endless, no matter how much, it will never be enough. fans will need to give more and when they do, they'll be asked to give more..
all programs want more, im sure Clemson football needs more money even though they are in process of building their football team a "players only Dave and Busters". now other teams will need their fans to give more so they too can build a mini golf course and bowling alley for their players so they can compete on the recruiting front..
I personally think the attendance thing is way overblown and Pitt fans shouldn't be baited into acknowledging it as much as we do (like this thread that i keep replying to
). The trend in all sports seems definitely away from live attendance. Huge tvs and man caves and choking constructions and loss of parking ... fuhgeddaboutit for many. Still think it's cool to support the program if you fervently follow it. Kind of like buying a group's CD (or mp3) if you love em, even of you'd never go see em at a concert.And I raise a brow that it matters much to recruits either. Especially a 40000 vs 80000 crowd say. Either is a nice bundle of people. After the first game or first trot out of the tunnel most guys are focusing on the game itself. Some probably would like it of there was no fan BS at all ...
couldn't agree more with this. way overblown.I personally think the attendance thing is way overblown and Pitt fans shouldn't be baited into acknowledging it as much as we do (like this thread that i keep replying to
And I raise a brow that it matters much to recruits either. Especially a 40000 vs 80000 crowd say. Either is a nice bundle of people. After the first game or first trot out of the tunnel most guys are focusing on the game itself. Some probably would like it of there was no fan BS at all ...
I'm not calling you out. There are others though that want Pitt to spend millions, and do WHATEVER IT TAKES TO WIN, but won't donate a dime or show up.
I'm pretty sure that equation is true in nearly every human endeavor.
If I lived that close, I'd come to most games too. Again, I'd reserve the right to miss one or two for something I deem important. When I lived in Pittsburgh, I went to every game.
And if I do make the drive, which I do at least once or twice a year, I ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO come in the night before and leave the day after, If I'm not going to thoroughly enjoy the tailgate party for 2-3 hours and have a night on the town after, I don't even want to go. So it's never a day trip! it's minimum 48-60 hours for me.
I made same day drive to Lexington for the pitt v kent state hoops game.. Same thing for ND game (Palko's F Bomb Game) and it's brutal, brutal. especially if you have a few cold ones during the game too.. Definitely worth the 200 dollar hotel room.
I do make a drive, 4 hours or so, a couple times a year, why does it have to be EVERY SINGLE GAME, I love Pitt football, but I don't want to go every week. If I lived nearby, that's different. But from 250 miles away, it's more of a hassle, and going every week would take the fun out of it. I go to 1-2 Pitt games and 1-2 Steelers games every year, I like to try to match up the weekends, like last year I went the weekend of Pitt/GT and Steelers/Jets, that makes it all "SPECIAL" two tailgate parties, two games, two days of football fun and drive back Monday morning. If it was drive to the Pitt game and back every week, it would be like a job, it would become tedious, it wouldn't be something extremely special that I mark on my calendar and plan all year anymore, it's now work, an obligation. get it?
no, terrible decision. what the hell I was thinking.. the kent state game, pitt wins that then im probably still in Lexington partying but the ND game? I should have stayed.. Im driving home, buddy is sound asleep and I kid you not, I was so tired I literally couldn't focus my eyes. I wasn't even at Toledo and the side of the road rumbles was waking me up.. that's not dangerous at all.
Funny thing was we were planning on going straight to Cleveland stadium to see steeler game but I was so tired, I kept driving. buddy wakes me up right outside of Pittsburgh and asks me If we are in Cleveland yet..
Here's a little PSA...you are allowed to pull your car off the road and catch a few winks in "park" without maintaining your foot on the accelerator doing 75 down an interstate while looking through closing eye lids.
Just for future reference.
I never meant that those that can't go should donate as an "apology payment." Pitt ranks very low on P5 donation levels. Our tickets are dirt cheap, comparatively speaking, to other schools. All I'm saying is if you are a fan and/or alum of Pitt and can't make it to games, making a donation is a way to help. If you don't feel it necessary to do so, so be it, but in my eyes, those that do donate do have more of a right to bitch and moan about the program than those that don't. Roast me for that. I don't even care. Why do you think big boosters are influential? Because Pitt wants and needs that $.
Like the whole tapping issue. If you are bitching that our attendance looks horrible and that we should tarp off seats, you better not be one of those people that lives close enough but doesn't go or donate. To me tarping is weak, accepts defeat, and is just as embarrassing, if not more, than empty seats.
Like the whole tapping issue. If you are bitching that our attendance looks horrible and that we should tarp off seats, you better not be one of those people that lives close enough but doesn't go or donate. To me tarping is weak, accepts defeat, and is just as embarrassing, if not more, than empty seats.
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There are also different fan attitudes. Me? For me, it's a fun activity, a day out, like going to a movie or a concert, it's for fun, I want it to be special, FOR MY OWN ENTERTAINMENT AND FUN... yes it's about ME, I don't go for the sake of "the program", I go because I enjoy football and seeing the Pitt fan friends I don't see all the time, it has to be a party or I'm not coming. I see some fans that act like they are a part of the team and are somehow obligated to donate and go every time so the stands look full to high school kids watching on TV.
Fair nuff. I'm a mid-30's alum and I've had tickets since I was a freshman. It used to be the same for me I suppose but now I've go so much time and emotion invested, that I want them to do well. Now I care more about the success of the program than I do about the tailgate.
No, I don't get it. The team needs your and every fan's support. I 'm 5 hours away. The only games I sometimes miss are the weekday games. Been a Pitt FB fan since I was about 8 years old. I have 3 degrees from Pitt, my son graduated from Pitt and my daughter is at Pitt. We also have family in Pittsburgh and two of my closest buddies from Pitt in the Pittsburgh area go to all the games so it 's a family gathering on game day. Can't stand to be anywhere else but at the game on game day.
I'm one of the 2 that said haven't been to a game for many years. I moved to the West Coast 15 years ago and for much of that my job didn't allow vacation time during football season. When I lived in Pittsburgh I don't think I'd missed a home game for at least a decade, probably more than that.
I never donated when I lived back home, but have every year since I moved. Was all set to make the easy (for me) trip to the Sun Bowl this year, but of course that didn't happen.
Missed my first home game in 46 years this past season (the Syracuse game) as I was hospitalized with by-pass surgery. My wife and I also attend 2 or 3 road games each year (proudly was at the Clemson game). We did live 45 mins from the stadium but now retired travel from Nags Head the past 2 seasons to get to all the home games. I'm a proud Pitt football fan, prouder to be a Pitt alum and for what my University stands for academically.
Hail to Pitt !
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My answer isn't there.
Have season tickets (for 15 years) but rarely go.
Will likely go more now that we are local
Have season tickets (for 15 years) but rarely go.
Will likely go more now that we are local
Nah
For a long time I had season tickets even if I only made 1-2 games a year...
And did the extra effort donations going up 10% every year for over a decade
Then I thought, why?
What am I really getting?
Scaled back to the minimum donation before athletics to maintain my club seats . Have instead to academics and the school of pharmacy-since I know first hand how those donations help students.
So that kind of supports my point. You felt disconnected to the program so cut back donations but instead donated to something that you did feel closer to.
My group had our season's tickets moved to the home side at the 50 this year. No increase in donation or cost from where we were on the visitor's side on the 20. It was easy. I have a feeling that this coming year will be even lighter in attendance than last year and the demand for season's tickets is way down. Again, the Pitt administration and marketing does a piss poor job of promoting Pitt in Pittsburgh.
Not really, since we had season tickets even 500 miles away.
Hell we even went to El Paso for the Sun Bowl.
It's the constant arms race in athletics that I tired of.
I don't care that much, it's ONLY about me having fun FOR ME. Going to games is an entertainment option in my life among many. But still TO ME, I'm a huge Pitt fan, most Pitt people I know almost never go to a game, and never watch on TV! And a lot of them live in Pittsburgh, so in the Universe of "Pitt People" I AM among the devoted fans.
You don't care that much, yet you've posted 11,000 times on a message board.
Yep, that makes sense.
Yeah seriously, if they aren't going and they are not even watching it on TV then fair to say they're not fans.
yes and also don't forget this week will bring out the famous "east Cow Pasture State" had 70,000 for their spring game boasts.
I don't care that much about going to every game in person is what I'm saying, I do watch every game one way or another, TV, online etc. But no I DON'T CARE THAT MUCH to drive up there for the game every weekend.
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