Georgia Tech Game & Other Dribbles ...

[DT_PITT]

** My bad.

** I’ll take the blame for this loss.

** Driving home, it occurred to me that we have won every home ACC game when I’ve enjoyed a pre game adult beverage or two, and tonight I stayed dry.

** Come to think of it, I didn’t have a beverage for the Miami home game with the 12 noon start, but since I enjoyed a few adult beverages the night prior, I may have had a tiny twinge of a hangover. So that counts.

** Unfortunately tonight, as they have for most ACC games, the Panthers came out like they were sporting a hangover.

** Because of that, this season falls even deeper into a drunken mess.

** Actually, at this point, my per game adult beverage consumption theory makes as much sense to me as any in regards to what has happened to this team this season.

** Sure, there are consistencies. Our rebounding remains woeful, which leads to its own share of issues.

** And for much of this game, our defense was inept as usual.

** The switch to zone did indeed enable the Panthers to get back into the contest and even take the lead. But really, should we really need the aid of a matchup zone to give us a chance to win against a 14-14 team at home? I guess so.

** Nonetheless, this night, more than anything else, we were done in by substandard shooting, both from deep, and also critical misses from in close.

** First on that list was the usually reliable senior Zack, who for the second game in a row struggled getting the ball to go down.

** Add to that, the typically 2 of 3 from the foul line type team that the Yellow Jackets are turned in a brilliant 90% effort, and a sub .500 ACC season for the Panthers is now all but assured.

** For the last two months, since the Panthers started 3-0 in conference, it seems like it’s always something.

** I suppose that’s what happens when you aren’t a very good team.

** Like all other Panther fans, I’ve tossed enough vitriol at our Head Coach, so adding to it now doesn’t seem to serve much purpose.

** Still, I am left to wonder just exactly what it was in South Bend that our Bosnian guy did to earn Jeff’s displeasure. Seems like it’s something.

** So this pains me to say, but I’ve now reached the point where I want this season to end.

** So I’ll be watching the Louisville game on Saturday as I always do. And since it's on Saturday night, I know I’ll be doing it while enjoying some adult beverages.

** But since it's an away game, I don’t expect my consumption superstition to have an impact on the game. Instead, this could be the only way I can watch what I expect to be a troublesome outcome. I doubt I'm the only one.

** Nonetheless, Hail to Pitt!

 

[Pittnerski]

Fire Capel

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

** My bad.

** I’ll take the blame for this loss.

** Driving home, it occurred to me that we have won every home ACC game when I’ve enjoyed a pre game adult beverage or two, and tonight I stayed dry.

** Come to think of it, I didn’t have a beverage for the Miami home game with the 12 noon start, but since I enjoyed a few adult beverages the night prior, I may have had a tiny twinge of a hangover. So that counts.

** Unfortunately tonight, as they have for most ACC games, the Panthers came out like they were sporting a hangover.

** Because of that, this season falls even deeper into a drunken mess.

** Actually, at this point, my per game adult beverage consumption theory makes as much sense to me as any in regards to what has happened to this team this season.

** Sure, there are consistencies. Our rebounding remains woeful, which leads to its own share of issues.

** And for much of this game, our defense was inept as usual.

** The switch to zone did indeed enable the Panthers to get back into the contest and even take the lead. But really, should we really need the aid of a matchup zone to give us a chance to win against a 14-14 team at home? I guess so.

** Nonetheless, this night, more than anything else, we were done in by substandard shooting, both from deep, and also critical misses from in close.

** First on that list was the usually reliable senior Zack, who for the second game in a row struggled getting the ball to go down.

** Add to that, the typically 2 of 3 from the foul line type team that the Yellow Jackets are turned in a brilliant 90% effort, and a sub .500 ACC season for the Panthers is now all but assured.

** For the last two months, since the Panthers started 3-0 in conference, it seems like it’s always something.

** I suppose that’s what happens when you aren’t a very good team.

** Like all other Panther fans, I’ve tossed enough vitriol at our Head Coach, so adding to it now doesn’t seem to serve much purpose.

** Still, I am left to wonder just exactly what it was in South Bend that our Bosnian guy did to earn Jeff’s displeasure. Seems like it’s something.

** So this pains me to say, but I’ve now reached the point where I want this season to end.

** So I’ll be watching the Louisville game on Saturday as I always do. And since it's on Saturday night, I know I’ll be doing it while enjoying some adult beverages.

** But since it's an away game, I don’t expect my consumption superstition to have an impact on the game. Instead, this could be the only way I can watch what I expect to be a troublesome outcome. I doubt I'm the only one.

** Nonetheless, Hail to Pitt!

What are your thoughts on Jarrod Calhoun as our next HC?

 

[DT_PITT]

What are your thoughts on Jarrod Calhoun as our next HC?

Someone else I know (very connected knowledgeable Hoop guy) brought him up to me about 2 weeks ago. He's doing a nice job out west for sure and he's got ties to this area of course.

I don't know anything about his recruiting acumen which would matter at a school like Pitt with limited NIL. But his Aggies sure know how to play ball.

My guess is he'll be off the board once it comes time for Pitt to select a new coach.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Someone else I know (very connected knowledgeable Hoop guy) brought him up to me about 2 weeks ago. He's doing a nice job out west for sure and he's got ties to this area of course.

I don't know anything about his recruiting acumen which would matter at a school like Pitt with limited NIL. But his Aggies sure know how to play ball.

My guess is he'll be off the board once it comes time for Pitt to select a new coach.

Recruiting acumen means next to nothing anymore. Money does the recruiting. It's like saying you need a GM to be a good recruiter so he can get the best free agents. Uh, no.

And here's a wild thought. What about Calhoun with his mentor, Huggins as Associate HC? I highly doubt Huggy would take that but he did say he wanted to get back into cCoaching.

I suspect AD Greene gives Capel one more year but only due to the Heather buyout. However, if there's any way out of it or if any deal to lower it can be reached, he has to pursue it because we are facing a lame duck season next year and the fanbase is pissed!

 

[HailToPitt1985]

The thing that I just can't fathom is that it really looks like this team doesn't practice one lick before a game. Nothing. And the coaches aren't prepared themselves so they can't prepare the players.

Just no excuses for this pathetic, horrendous team. They are getting paid to play a game and win, and they're not winning. Seemingly, there is no solution to this debacle this year. And none presents itself for next year. We're getting beat by really bad teams because we're worse than really bad.

 

[GomerTV]

Look at Miami this year. Guess what? That will be Pitt next year. Only good thing about that is maybe our coach will quit too.

 

[KennyTheKangaroo]

Eric devendorf was the color commentator on acc network and somehow he wasn’t the worst part of the game.

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

** My bad.

** I’ll take the blame for this loss.

** Driving home, it occurred to me that we have won every home ACC game when I’ve enjoyed a pre game adult beverage or two, and tonight I stayed dry.

** Come to think of it, I didn’t have a beverage for the Miami home game with the 12 noon start, but since I enjoyed a few adult beverages the night prior, I may have had a tiny twinge of a hangover. So that counts.

** Unfortunately tonight, as they have for most ACC games, the Panthers came out like they were sporting a hangover.

** Because of that, this season falls even deeper into a drunken mess.

** Actually, at this point, my per game adult beverage consumption theory makes as much sense to me as any in regards to what has happened to this team this season.

** Sure, there are consistencies. Our rebounding remains woeful, which leads to its own share of issues.

** And for much of this game, our defense was inept as usual.

** The switch to zone did indeed enable the Panthers to get back into the contest and even take the lead. But really, should we really need the aid of a matchup zone to give us a chance to win against a 14-14 team at home? I guess so.

** Nonetheless, this night, more than anything else, we were done in by substandard shooting, both from deep, and also critical misses from in close.

** First on that list was the usually reliable senior Zack, who for the second game in a row struggled getting the ball to go down.

** Add to that, the typically 2 of 3 from the foul line type team that the Yellow Jackets are turned in a brilliant 90% effort, and a sub .500 ACC season for the Panthers is now all but assured.

** For the last two months, since the Panthers started 3-0 in conference, it seems like it’s always something.

** I suppose that’s what happens when you aren’t a very good team.

** Like all other Panther fans, I’ve tossed enough vitriol at our Head Coach, so adding to it now doesn’t seem to serve much purpose.

** Still, I am left to wonder just exactly what it was in South Bend that our Bosnian guy did to earn Jeff’s displeasure. Seems like it’s something.

** So this pains me to say, but I’ve now reached the point where I want this season to end.

** So I’ll be watching the Louisville game on Saturday as I always do. And since it's on Saturday night, I know I’ll be doing it while enjoying some adult beverages.

** But since it's an away game, I don’t expect my consumption superstition to have an impact on the game. Instead, this could be the only way I can watch what I expect to be a troublesome outcome. I doubt I'm the only one.

** Nonetheless, Hail to Pitt!

 

[Fsgolfdr]

You are who you are and Pitts a team this year that lacks a rebounder and a perimeter threat and there are no answers on the bench . I’m not sure what you expect the staff to do ? Do you really believe the staff is unaware of their shortcomings ? It’s obvious that losing Bub and Blake was just too much to overcome .

Those of you who are on the fire the coach bandwagon where’s the money coming from ?

Putting a portion of that money into players would be a far better use of those funds .

The bottom line is Pitt doesn’t have enough talent and yes the coach is responsible for assembling the talent , but in today’s game all you have to do is follow the money . Could they have kept Bub if he decided to stay in college or Blake if he had more eligibility without losing Lowe or Ish ?

It appeared like no one was at the game last night and all I kept thinking was I don’t blame anyone for choosing not to go and I hate to say this , but watching this team play is painful .

If the new AD doesn’t step up and find some new substantial donors next year could be a downright disaster. The players they need to improve as a team are not wearing Pitt uniforms right now .

 

[Blair_45]

The thing that I just can't fathom is that it really looks like this team doesn't practice one lick before a game. Nothing. And the coaches aren't prepared themselves so they can't prepare the players.

Just no excuses for this pathetic, horrendous team. They are getting paid to play a game and win, and they're not winning. Seemingly, there is no solution to this debacle this year. And none presents itself for next year. We're getting beat by really bad teams because we're worse than really bad.

Yea when it continues to be the same things game in and game out then that falls on the coaching for lack of preparation. I mean every game it seems like with the exception a few here and there Pitt is down early by double digits and just gives up wide open 3 point looks. And when they do battle back and make these games close one possession games at the end the other team always makes the critical plays and Pitt doesn’t. I mean are these players on this roster not coachable?? Do they know more then they think they do?? Do they not care?? Or is Capel and his staff a bunch of idiots that have no idea what they are doing?? I don’t know which one of those things it is but to keep seeing the same things game after game after game after game is just inexcusable and it has to fall on the head coach at some point.

I don’t know what will happen here moving forward but I really think at this point it’s 50/50 if Capel is back next year. With the new AD who has no connection to Capel and as bad as this collapse has been these last 6-7 weeks they seriously need to think about just tearing it down all together and moving on from Capel.

 

[Islanderpanther]

You are who you are and Pitts a team this year that lacks a rebounder and a perimeter threat and there are no answers on the bench . I’m not sure what you expect the staff to do ? Do you really believe the staff is unaware of their shortcomings ? It’s obvious that losing Bub and Blake was just too much to overcome .

Those of you who are on the fire the coach bandwagon where’s the money coming from ?

Putting a portion of that money into players would be a far better use of those funds .

The bottom line is Pitt doesn’t have enough talent and yes the coach is responsible for assembling the talent , but in today’s game all you have to do is follow the money . Could they have kept Bub if he decided to stay in college or Blake if he had more eligibility without losing Lowe or Ish ?

It appeared like no one was at the game last night and all I kept thinking was I don’t blame anyone for choosing not to go and I hate to say this , but watching this team play is painful .

If the new AD doesn’t step up and find some new substantial donors next year could be a downright disaster. The players they need to improve as a team are not wearing Pitt uniforms right now .

😂….no fan with a brain is going to invest in Capel…just wasted money in return for crappy BB. Pitt has a HC who can’t coach so that your suggestion that “ accumulating” talent is the answer when he will just waste that talent is senseless. You want to invest in Capel, be my guest. Next year is going to be a disaster regardless of the NIL situation.

 

[pittbb80]

You are who you are and Pitts a team this year that lacks a rebounder and a perimeter threat and there are no answers on the bench . I’m not sure what you expect the staff to do ? Do you really believe the staff is unaware of their shortcomings ? It’s obvious that losing Bub and Blake was just too much to overcome .

Those of you who are on the fire the coach bandwagon where’s the money coming from ?

Putting a portion of that money into players would be a far better use of those funds .

The bottom line is Pitt doesn’t have enough talent and yes the coach is responsible for assembling the talent , but in today’s game all you have to do is follow the money . Could they have kept Bub if he decided to stay in college or Blake if he had more eligibility without losing Lowe or Ish ?

It appeared like no one was at the game last night and all I kept thinking was I don’t blame anyone for choosing not to go and I hate to say this , but watching this team play is painful .

If the new AD doesn’t step up and find some new substantial donors next year could be a downright disaster. The players they need to improve as a team are not wearing Pitt uniforms right now .

Yes nothing is Capels fault. The total lack of energy and enthusiasm shown in every game since the beginning of January is not your boy Jeff’s fault. The lack of discipline is not Jeff’s fault. The lack of any structured offense is not Jeff’s fault.

He just needs better players to that when he rolls the ball in the court they can play street ball and win a few more games

 

[HailToPitt1985]

You are who you are and Pitts a team this year that lacks a rebounder and a perimeter threat and there are no answers on the bench . I’m not sure what you expect the staff to do ? Do you really believe the staff is unaware of their shortcomings ? It’s obvious that losing Bub and Blake was just too much to overcome .

Those of you who are on the fire the coach bandwagon where’s the money coming from ?

Putting a portion of that money into players would be a far better use of those funds .

The bottom line is Pitt doesn’t have enough talent and yes the coach is responsible for assembling the talent , but in today’s game all you have to do is follow the money . Could they have kept Bub if he decided to stay in college or Blake if he had more eligibility without losing Lowe or Ish ?

It appeared like no one was at the game last night and all I kept thinking was I don’t blame anyone for choosing not to go and I hate to say this , but watching this team play is painful .

If the new AD doesn’t step up and find some new substantial donors next year could be a downright disaster. The players they need to improve as a team are not wearing Pitt uniforms right now .

We don't have a head coach and staff who knows what to do with quality players. So getting them isn't the ultimate answer you try and make it to be. A good head coach and staff that can teach fundamentals (defense, rebounding, spacing, passing, pressing) and prepare their team to play would be able to make this team successful. That means winning and getting into the NCAAT as more than a bubble team (we aren't even that now).

Forget the donors. You're dreaming if you think there will suddenly be an influx of money into this program. There won't be. This is not an investable program. And forget getting new players from the portal when they'll still have this head coach and staff. The results will be the same. What's the definition of insanity?

 

[Protes]

We don't have a head coach and staff who knows what to do with quality players. So getting them isn't the ultimate answer you try and make it to be. A good head coach and staff that can teach fundamentals (defense, rebounding, spacing, passing, pressing) and prepare their team to play would be able to make this team successful. That means winning and getting into the NCAAT as more than a bubble team (we aren't even that now).

Forget the donors. You're dreaming if you think there will suddenly be an influx of money into this program. There won't be. This is not an investable program. And forget getting new players from the portal when they'll still have this head coach and staff. The results will be the same. What's the definition of insanity?

I was laughing during the broadcast last night when they were pointing out that our entire staff is made up of former head coaches, as if it were a good thing. They are "former head coaches" for a reason. They certainly aren't doing anything to help this team. If Greene isn't ready to pull the plug on JC, he should put the screws to him w/r/t to the staff. If he doesn't like it, he can leave.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Yes nothing is Capels fault. The total lack of energy and enthusiasm shown in every game since the beginning of January is not your boy Jeff’s fault. The lack of discipline is not Jeff’s fault. The lack of any structured offense is not Jeff’s fault.

He just needs better players to that when he rolls the ball in the court they can play street ball and win a few more games

Is this team as good as the previous two seasons ? No they’re not because the roster isn’t as good . This team loses by double digits to either team . Is the coaching any different or are the players simply not as good ?

Guess Kansas needs to fire Self , his team was preseason #1 and they’re not in top 25 . That’s underperformance.

On offense they don’t have a strong inside presence or anyone that can kill you from three . Other coaches know this too !

Are there better coaches out there , absolutely, but they’re not coming to Pitt without a huge financial commitment from the university and donors . Do you really see this happening?

 

[HailToPitt1985]

I was laughing during the broadcast last night when they were pointing out that our entire staff is made up of former head coaches, as if it were a good thing. They are "former head coaches" for a reason. They certainly aren't doing anything to help this team. If Greene isn't ready to pull the plug on JC, he should put the screws to him w/r/t to the staff. If he doesn't like it, he can leave.

Funny you should say that. I was saying the exact same thing to my fellow Pitt fans at earlier games this year and they all agreed. If these guys are former head coaches, that's an indictment on their coaching abilities. If they were good coaches, they'd still be head coaches. Not only aren't they helping, I don't think they know how to help.

It's time for a complete firing of the entire staff and hire real assistants, not former head coach retreads. That includes his brother...especially his brother. I agree with everything you said. If Capel doesn't like it, make it easier on us and leave.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Is this team as good as the previous two seasons ? No they’re not because the roster isn’t as good . This team loses by double digits to either team . Is the coaching any different or are the players simply not as good ?

Guess Kansas needs to fire Self , his team was preseason #1 and they’re not in top 25 . That’s underperformance.

On offense they don’t have a strong inside presence or anyone that can kill you from three . Other coaches know this too !

Are there better coaches out there , absolutely, but they’re not coming to Pitt without a huge financial commitment from the university and donors . Do you really see this happening?

It's Capel's fault that he let Fede walk for a downgrade. And that Dunn's skill set wasn't a match for this team. There's your reason as to why we arent better.

We traded Bub for Lowe - downgrade
Lowe for Leggett - downgrade
Austin for Austin - slight upgrade
Hinson for GDG - downgrade
Fede for Corhen - downgrade

Leggett coming off the bench for what was supposed to be Dunn coming off the bench - downgrade

So yes, the roster isn't as good. However, we are what, like 2-8 in close games? The roster is good enough and it's certainly paid enough. Corhen was a bad investment. Ultimately, it's on Capel to identify the right players.

 

[AllegeneeGenacGenac]

Is this team as good as the previous two seasons ? No they’re not because the roster isn’t as good . This team loses by double digits to either team . Is the coaching any different or are the players simply not as good ?

Guess Kansas needs to fire Self , his team was preseason #1 and they’re not in top 25 . That’s underperformance.

On offense they don’t have a strong inside presence or anyone that can kill you from three . Other coaches know this too !

Are there better coaches out there , absolutely, but they’re not coming to Pitt without a huge financial commitment from the university and donors . Do you really see this happening?

You should see what the university pays the current staff and the quality of the facilities, and then you can answer your own question.

Comparing our collapse to Kansas having a down year by blue blood standards (they are still a lock to make the tournament) is comical.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Guess Kansas needs to fire Self , his team was preseason #1 and they’re not in top 25 . That’s underperformance.

Goes to show you how irrelevant it is to pay big money for a quality big.

Get you some guy who can rebound ok and is cheap (ie Fede) and spend the money on guards.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Is this team as good as the previous two seasons ? No they’re not because the roster isn’t as good . This team loses by double digits to either team . Is the coaching any different or are the players simply not as good ?

Guess Kansas needs to fire Self , his team was preseason #1 and they’re not in top 25 . That’s underperformance.

On offense they don’t have a strong inside presence or anyone that can kill you from three . Other coaches know this too !

Are there better coaches out there , absolutely, but they’re not coming to Pitt without a huge financial commitment from the university and donors . Do you really see this happening?

Gtfo with that comparison. Self is having one bad season. A total outlier. Capel’s body of work is less than mediocre.

As silly a post as we’ve seen in a while.

 

[Black_Man_Panther]

Recruiting acumen means next to nothing anymore. Money does the recruiting. It's like saying you need a GM to be a good recruiter so he can get the best free agents. Uh, no.

Don't confuse "recruiting" with "talent evaluation". Capel is good at the former and absolutely horrible at the latter. I think we're in a period where the older college coaches who have refused or neglected or whatever you want to call it with NIL get weeded out.

And when you think about it, Capel had an enabler - boss Heather. And she gave Pitt and their fans the ultimate FU by extending him and Narduzzi knowing FULL WELL, the university would never be able to afford the buyout. Our anger is misguided.

 

[pittbb80]

On offense they don’t have a strong inside presence or anyone that can kill you from three . Other coaches know this too

All the more reason to have offensive sets with more guys moving off the ball, setting off ball screens etc rather than having four guys stand on the perimeter and watch one of the guards try to take their man off the dribble He coaches like he has superior talent

Secondly effort, hustle, and defensive discipline are not talent related issues. Thats coaching. This team looks disinterested most of the games

And lastly saying they don’t have as much talent this year as last is more of an indictment on Capel than you think. Not making the NCAAs last year with Hinson and am NBA guard is criminal. For many of the same reasons as this year. Capel doesn’t coach. He simply is a playground supervisor

 

[pittbb80]

Looked to me like Capel recruited the wrong dude from the Senegal. The kid on GT was far more athletic as has more upside than Papa was a rolling stone Can’t Hoop

 

[Sam Bam Clancy]

Another game, another....huge deficit within the first ten minutes, inconceivable missed shots from close range at key moments, getting maybe 20% of the 50/50 loose balls, giving up many second chance killer offensive rebounds, fouling shooters on 3 point shots, terrible execution and too much dribbling until forced prayers on key possessions, an opponent who is a poor shooter becomes Curry, Coach Capel looking quite flummoxed, poor perimeter defense, strange utilization or really lack of utilization of the bench, and crazily.......... the effort seems to be there. Bizarre season for a bizarre last year of Pittsburgh sports.

 

[FireballZ]

Gtfo with that comparison. Self is having one bad season. A total outlier. Capel’s body of work is less than mediocre.

As silly a post as we’ve seen in a whole.

There's no way this poster doesn't drool at least a little while he is awake.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

Someone else I know (very connected knowledgeable Hoop guy) brought him up to me about 2 weeks ago. He's doing a nice job out west for sure and he's got ties to this area of course.

I don't know anything about his recruiting acumen which would matter at a school like Pitt with limited NIL. But his Aggies sure know how to play ball.

My guess is he'll be off the board once it comes time for Pitt to select a new coach.

Even more reason to act sooner rather than later.

 

[TD_6082]

You are who you are and Pitts a team this year that lacks a rebounder and a perimeter threat and there are no answers on the bench . I’m not sure what you expect the staff to do ? Do you really believe the staff is unaware of their shortcomings ? It’s obvious that losing Bub and Blake was just too much to overcome .

Those of you who are on the fire the coach bandwagon where’s the money coming from ?

Putting a portion of that money into players would be a far better use of those funds .

The bottom line is Pitt doesn’t have enough talent and yes the coach is responsible for assembling the talent , but in today’s game all you have to do is follow the money . Could they have kept Bub if he decided to stay in college or Blake if he had more eligibility without losing Lowe or Ish ?

It appeared like no one was at the game last night and all I kept thinking was I don’t blame anyone for choosing not to go and I hate to say this , but watching this team play is painful .

If the new AD doesn’t step up and find some new substantial donors next year could be a downright disaster. The players they need to improve as a team are not wearing Pitt uniforms right now .

I never bought into the preseason hype on the board. I always thought this team had serious deficiencies that would keep them from being a "lock" to make the tourney, and little to no chance of making a run should they make the tourney. All that said though, this team isn't coached very well. To oversimplify, they simply don't value each possession.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

fouling shooters on 3 point shots

The dumbest play in basketball, fouling a guy shooting a three pointer.

Last night we did it not once, not twice, not three times, but four times in one game.

Pathetic.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

We don't have a head coach and staff who knows what to do with quality players. So getting them isn't the ultimate answer you try and make it to be. A good head coach and staff that can teach fundamentals (defense, rebounding, spacing, passing, pressing) and prepare their team to play would be able to make this team successful. That means winning and getting into the NCAAT as more than a bubble team (we aren't even that now).

Forget the donors. You're dreaming if you think there will suddenly be an influx of money into this program. There won't be. This is not an investable program. And forget getting new players from the portal when they'll still have this head coach and staff. The results will be the same. What's the definition of insanity?

What was the difference between JD1 &2 . Did JD forget how to coach his last 5 yrs here ? No , he had complete teams that had players that were better earlier in his stint here .

The twins could have the finest big man coach and physical trainers in the world and it’s not going to turn them into physical beasts that rip rebounds off the boards. .

These players practice hrs daily to improve their skills ,but you don’t turn average shooters into world class marksmen . Everyone has certain capabilities some guys keep getting better while others don’t . Stand on a driving range and watch guys beat balls for hrs and take lessons that still stink . Not everyone improves .

Think JC wouldn’t be a better coach with Cooper Flagg or Jared McCain playing for him , think JD wouldn’t win a national championship with Dukes talent . Talent matters !

In the NIL age you’re not going to win consistently without the cash .

 

[20-20Hindsight]

All the more reason to have offensive sets with more guys moving off the ball, setting off ball screens etc rather than having four guys stand on the perimeter and watch one of the guards try to take their man off the dribble He coaches like he has superior talent

I've said it many times this season... we must be the single easiest team in D1 to prepare for.

 

[Tvax1]

the level of talent JC needs to overcome himself is excessively huge as has been made apparent over the last 2 years

if Capel remains, and everyone expects that, nobody with any rational thought can expect Pitt BB to make the tournament as they will not spend enough and 1 NCAAT in 7 tries says he isn't likely to get lucky enough to overcome his deficiencies again in the 5 years ahead(thanks Heather)

No, JC would not be a better coach with Cooper Flagg of JM or anyone, you could let him mid season pick his top 5 from every other NCAA team and it would still be in doubt that he would make the tournament

and I totally agree this Pitt team lacks talent and JC to his credit at least helps in developing player confidence that early. this year led to wins over inferior talent and momentum and heart that carried them against tOSU, but at no point has JC coached up offense or gotten any quality X's and O's play out of his team on the floor as most of the wins were his team overcoming whatever that part of his coaching actually is(playground ball as many describe it)

anyone that remains supporting Capel at this point will never not support Pitt BB because there's no one in their right mind that doesn't see what a failure Pitt is because of what HE is

 

[rockypanther]

You are who you are and Pitts a team this year that lacks a rebounder and a perimeter threat and there are no answers on the bench . I’m not sure what you expect the staff to do ? Do you really believe the staff is unaware of their shortcomings ? It’s obvious that losing Bub and Blake was just too much to overcome .

Those of you who are on the fire the coach bandwagon where’s the money coming from ?

Putting a portion of that money into players would be a far better use of those funds .

The bottom line is Pitt doesn’t have enough talent and yes the coach is responsible for assembling the talent , but in today’s game all you have to do is follow the money . Could they have kept Bub if he decided to stay in college or Blake if he had more eligibility without losing Lowe or Ish ?

It appeared like no one was at the game last night and all I kept thinking was I don’t blame anyone for choosing not to go and I hate to say this , but watching this team play is painful .

If the new AD doesn’t step up and find some new substantial donors next year could be a downright disaster. The players they need to improve as a team are not wearing Pitt uniforms right now .

You could give Capel 3 All Americans and he would fail I bet. Oh I know. That’s what happened at Oklahoma. He just sucks as a coach. He can’t get enough good players to overcome his coaching short comings.

 

[rockypanther]

the level of talent JC needs to overcome himself is excessively huge as has been made apparent over the last 2 years

if Capel remains, and everyone expects that, nobody with any rational thought can expect Pitt BB to make the tournament as they will not spend enough and 1 NCAAT in 7 tries says he isn't likely to get lucky enough to overcome his deficiencies again in the 5 years ahead(thanks Heather)

No, JC would not be a better coach with Cooper Flagg of JM or anyone, you could let him mid season pick his top 5 from every other NCAA team and it would still be in doubt that he would make the tournament

and I totally agree this Pitt team lacks talent and JC to his credit at least helps in developing player confidence that early. this year led to wins over inferior talent and momentum and heart that carried them against tOSU, but at no point has JC coached up offense or gotten any quality X's and O's play out of his team on the floor as most of the wins were his team overcoming whatever that part of his coaching actually is(playground ball as many describe it)

anyone that remains supporting Capel at this point will never not support Pitt BB because there's no one in their right mind that doesn't see what a failure Pitt is because of what HE is

Exactly. His quality of players don’t really matter. His ceiling is low cause he can’t coach.

 

[rockypanther]

It's Capel's fault that he let Fede walk for a downgrade. And that Dunn's skill set wasn't a match for this team. There's your reason as to why we arent better.

We traded Bub for Lowe - downgrade
Lowe for Leggett - downgrade
Austin for Austin - slight upgrade
Hinson for GDG - downgrade
Fede for Corhen - downgrade

Leggett coming off the bench for what was supposed to be Dunn coming off the bench - downgrade

So yes, the roster isn't as good. However, we are what, like 2-8 in close games? The roster is good enough and it's certainly paid enough. Corhen was a bad investment. Ultimately, it's on Capel to identify the right players.

Agree. It’s not a talent issue. How many games have we lost where we had equal or better talent this season? That’s on the coaching staff who put together the roster, set the culture, and call the plays and manage the games.