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Resources or NIL are not the problem with this roster. The resources invested are not matching the results on the floor, which is the entire problem. Pitt isn’t playing poor, either in the AD resources invested into the program or NIL.
I’d love to see the actual numbers .
 
JC is signed thur 29-30 and he’s going nowhere .

The last two yrs we watched some pretty good Bb this is not going to happen this yr .

The answer imo is simple , bring in better players and today it’s a lot simpler than trying to out recruit the next guy . You pay more than the other guy ! If Pitt can’t out bid other schools for talent than it doesn’t really matter who the coach is . Plus no good coach is going to any school without the resources to compete .
Stop it. (7) years is enough of sample size to know Jeff and co aren’t cutting it at Pitt. Oh and plenty of good coaches will line up to work in the ACC so drop that narrative. I will agree however that the moronic extension Capel received probably insures we’re stuck w this clueless staff for 2x more years. What an epic collapse.
 
What’s become obvious this year is the lack of consistent outside threat and rebounding , no amount of coaching is going to turn someone on this roster into a Jerome Lane or a Blake .

Thinking Pitt will buyout JC for many millions of dollars is delusional , put a fraction of that money into players , far more cost effective .
Rebounding and defense are about toughness, effort and technique, which is why Jerome Lane was so good at it as a 6'6 guy in a painted area full of future NBA 7 footers.
 
What’s become obvious this year is the lack of consistent outside threat and rebounding , no amount of coaching is going to turn someone on this roster into a Jerome Lane or a Blake .

Thinking Pitt will buyout JC for many millions of dollars is delusional , put a fraction of that money into players , far more cost effective .
Well that was supposed to have been what they did, spend money on players. I dont think people truly understand how much coaching matters when you dont have a bunch of 5 starts. Pitt has a few 4 star players on its roster. But you cant just throw them out there with no real game plan.

How can a team not be good at anything that they can focus on? They clearly are not very good a playing man, because they dont know what to do when the other team hedges or screen. Why cant Capel implement a zone and have the team focus and practice it? There are so many versions of zones. If Capel wants to run nothing but man defenses, he simply has to recruit, and get players through the portal to do it.

There is no way he watches these players in practice and see that they can play efficient man defense. Capel is just really a bad game coach. These players need to know they can depend on something. They are looking for answers from the coach, but he acts like he has no idea what to do to help them. Its like just go out a play.
 
Rebounding and defense are about toughness, effort and technique, which is why Jerome Lane was so good at it as a 6'6 guy in a painted area full of future NBA 7 footers.
If that’s all it was there be a lot of Jerome Lanes out there . Great rebounders have innate ability to be where the ball is and no amount of teaching or effort can make up for that . It’s a gift .

Ps it’s like telling a golfer who hits it 220 to swing harder and he’ll hit 320 .
 
If that’s all it was there be a lot of Jerome Lanes out there . Great rebounders have innate ability to be where the ball is and no amount of teaching or effort can make up for that . It’s a gift .

Ps it’s like telling a golfer who hits it 220 to swing harder and he’ll hit 320 .

Correct. Rebounding really can't be taught. You either have that natural instinct or you don't. Sure, there are coaching and drills that can help you be a tiny bit better but the instinct is something you are born with.
 
Well that was supposed to have been what they did, spend money on players. I dont think people truly understand how much coaching matters when you dont have a bunch of 5 starts. Pitt has a few 4 star players on its roster. But you cant just throw them out there with no real game plan.

How can a team not be good at anything that they can focus on? They clearly are not very good a playing man, because they dont know what to do when the other team hedges or screen. Why cant Capel implement a zone and have the team focus and practice it? There are so many versions of zones. If Capel wants to run nothing but man defenses, he simply has to recruit, and get players through the portal to do it.

There is no way he watches these players in practice and see that they can play efficient man defense. Capel is just really a bad game coach. These players need to know they can depend on something. They are looking for answers from the coach, but he acts like he has no idea what to do to help them. Its like just go out a play.
Do you know who Pitt tried to get and went elsewhere for more ?

There are a few guys who are just better at coaching . Last week Andy Reed was the greatest coach ever , not this week . Guess what Philly’s players were far better than his . Does that make Andy Reid a bad coach ?

Thinking that anyone on this board is more knowledgeable that anyone on Pitts staff and could solve their issues is delusional.
 
Stop it. (7) years is enough of sample size to know Jeff and co aren’t cutting it at Pitt. Oh and plenty of good coaches will line up to work in the ACC so drop that narrative. I will agree however that the moronic extension Capel received probably insures we’re stuck w this clueless staff for 2x more years. What an epic collapse.
Maybe you need to reset your expectations for Pitt Bb especially under the NIL .
 
Maybe you need to reset your expectations for Pitt Bb especially under the NIL .

How many times do you have to be told that we are paying good money for Lowe, Leggett, Austin, and Corhen? There will be plenty of teams paying less who will be playing in the NCAA Tournament. WVU, for one, is paying about 1/5 of what we are paying. They took the year off of NIL after breaking the bank for Jesse Edwards, Kerr Kriisa, and Raequon Battle the year before.
 
Do you know who Pitt tried to get and went elsewhere for more ?

There are a few guys who are just better at coaching . Last week Andy Reed was the greatest coach ever , not this week . Guess what Philly’s players were far better than his . Does that make Andy Reid a bad coach ?

Thinking that anyone on this board is more knowledgeable that anyone on Pitts staff and could solve their issues is delusional.
Really? Will if all it takes, and coaching doesnt matter then explain what is the problem with these teams who gets a whole lot of the players you are boasting about. PSU, Miami, ND, Oklahoma, Texas, LS, etc (football), Duke, NC, Kansas, Kentucky, etc (basketball). By your logic those teams should win every year.

It is really weird how some start pointing out 1 or 2 instances where a team backs their statement and then someone easily finds many more teams who destroys that premise. You just like me, dont know any more than anyone else on these boards. But you like some, post the loudest.
 
If that’s all it was there be a lot of Jerome Lanes out there . Great rebounders have innate ability to be where the ball is and no amount of teaching or effort can make up for that . It’s a gift .

Ps it’s like telling a golfer who hits it 220 to swing harder and he’ll hit 320 .
Yeah that's what separates great rebounders from good ones. Great ones are rare, but it's not hard to be a good one--some athleticism combined with a lot of effort, physicality, toughness, "want-to".

You can make up for not having a Dennis Rodman or Jerome Lane by having 5 guys giving max effort to get to a rebound. Those early Howland-Dixon teams had great examples of that.
 
How many times do you have to be told that we are paying good money for Lowe, Leggett, Austin, and Corhen? There will be plenty of teams paying less who will be playing in the NCAA Tournament. WVU, for one, is paying about 1/5 of what we are paying. They took the year off of NIL after breaking the bank for Jesse Edwards, Kerr Kriisa, and Raequon Battle the year before.
Well what is your definition of good money and when the numbers aren’t published how do you know ?
 
Yeah that's what separates great rebounders from good ones. Great ones are rare, but it's not hard to be a good one--some athleticism combined with a lot of effort, physicality, toughness, "want-to".

You can make up for not having a Dennis Rodman or Jerome Lane by having 5 guys giving max effort to get to a rebound. Those early Howland-Dixon teams had great examples of that.
I agree that effort makes up for a lack of talent , but when you bounce off the other guys it’s hard to get good position . Not one of Pitts bigs has muscle to stand up to a physical 4 or 5 .
 
Well what is your definition of good money and when the numbers aren’t published how do you know ?

Because I know what the market was and I read between the lines in interviews such as when Capel said he didn't take for granted that Lowe and Leggett would be back and he thanks A412. Coleman Hawkins from KSt doesn't get $2 million and then Lowe and Leggett get 100K. They are both probably around 500K.
 
Leggett might be worth 25k. Without Hinson to give him space he is useless. I haven't seen a guy regress this much from one season to the next maybe ever. He either dribbles it off his foot or lays a massive brick. He doesn't even seem like the same player. I guess the same could be said to a degree about Lowe. Bub and Hinson commanded respect from opposing defenses. No one does this year consistently, rendering these guards ineffective. No team is afraid to help off shooters in an effort to keep us out of the lane because we mostly throw up bricks. It's the story of our season. That and the defensive / rebounding ineptitude.
 
Because I know what the market was and I read between the lines in interviews such as when Capel said he didn't take for granted that Lowe and Leggett would be back and he thanks A412. Coleman Hawkins from KSt doesn't get $2 million and then Lowe and Leggett get 100K. They are both probably around 500K.
This means you know nothing that anybody else knows and unless you’re involved you don’t know .
 
Leggett might be worth 25k. Without Hinson to give him space he is useless. I haven't seen a guy regress this much from one season to the next maybe ever. He either dribbles it off his foot or lays a massive brick. He doesn't even seem like the same player. I guess the same could be said to a degree about Lowe. Bub and Hinson commanded respect from opposing defenses. No one does this year consistently, rendering these guards ineffective. No team is afraid to help off shooters in an effort to keep us out of the lane because we mostly throw up bricks. It's the story of our season. That and the defensive / rebounding ineptitude.
Hinson opened up the floor for everyone and not having any dangerous threat from three has affected both Lowe and Ish’s game . Can’t blame the player , it’s a team game and unfortunately this team has major holes .
 
What’s became painfully obvious as this season continues to unfold is this “collective “ simply doesn’t have the horsepower/talent to overcome its weaknesses .

I know that coaching matters , but to me it’s more of a talent issue .

Do they coach them :
to miss open threes
to be out of position on defense and rebounding
to pass up open threes to drive into a packed lane
to ignore open teammates to drive to the hoop

I think the staff thought that they had addressed some of their weaknesses inside with the addition of Corhen and with Papa returning from injury and from the perimeter with the addition of Cummings and Delalic . It hasn’t worked .

Wasting limited resources ( cash ) on firing JC makes no sense when they need to find ways of funneling cash into the collective to outbid their competitors for talent . Winning teams and HOF coaches all have one thing in common great talent .
Remind us. Was it a male goat that kicked you in the head after you tried to milk it or did you get hit in the head after driving your cart onto the driving range looking for your errant tee ball?
 
What’s became painfully obvious as this season continues to unfold is this “collective “ simply doesn’t have the horsepower/talent to overcome its weaknesses .

I know that coaching matters , but to me it’s more of a talent issue .

Do they coach them :
to miss open threes
to be out of position on defense and rebounding
to pass up open threes to drive into a packed lane
to ignore open teammates to drive to the hoop
Uh. 3 of the four are coaching issues and have NOTHING to do with talent

clearly this team doesn’t have a ton of talent but they surely have more than enough to play far better than they have been. This team is poorly coached if they are coached at all. Most of the games look like a bunch of dudes who just got together at a playground for a pick up basketball game
 
Rebounding and defense are about toughness, effort and technique, which is why Jerome Lane was so good at it as a 6'6 guy in a painted area full of future NBA 7 footers.
Yup. And you might not be able to coach toughness (although JD did through tough practices) but you can surely coach effort and technique. Yeah these guys don’t have the bodies to be great rebounders but they surely shouldn’t be as bad as they are
 
I agree that effort makes up for a lack of talent , but when you bounce off the other guys it’s hard to get good position . Not one of Pitts bigs has muscle to stand up to a physical 4 or 5 .
And who is responsible for the S and C program. ? Non of these guys looks like they’ve progressed physique wise since they’ve been here. That should be a focus for this program and it’s clearly not

Cohern especially should be a far better rebounder than he is. He has the frame to be a strong rebounder yet he’s soft as charmin

Clearly this is not something Capel values.
 
And who is responsible for the S and C program. ? Non of these guys looks like they’ve progressed physique wise since they’ve been here. That should be a focus for this program and it’s clearly not

Cohern especially should be a far better rebounder than he is. He has the frame to be a strong rebounder yet he’s soft as charmin

Clearly this is not something Capel values.
I’d be willing to bet you the twins have been busting their ass in the weight room , some bodies just aren’t meant to be strong . I’d also be willing to bet there’s not many on this board that wouldn’t punk doing the teams workouts .

I’ve been advocating for awhile to recruit an undersized center who’s a bull that the blue chips overlook . Pitts best rebounders have been solidly built 6’5-6” guys . ( Lane ,Blair , Clancey )
 
You know who “resets their expectations”? Losers.
You know who finds a way to win under any circumstances? Winners 🔥
Times change !

I’d want them to win championships , but how can they compete against programs like Arkansas who come into Pitts backyard with bags of cash . The playing field isn’t level . ( just ask any Pirate fans )
 
Times change !

I’d want them to win championships , but how can they compete against programs like Arkansas who come into Pitts backyard with bags of cash . The playing field isn’t level . ( just ask any Pirate fans )
What has Arkansas done? Why do you just keep throwing out random teams, trying to prove your point? Sure there are teams that have big donors and give big money to their school. But tell me exactly which one has won a championship?

People need to stop acting like teams who dont have huge donors cant compete. Shit, every year in each sport a team does it. Pitt just did it in 21. If it wasnt for than non safty call against Miami, which it clearly showed, Pitt would have been in the playoffs after beating WF.
 
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