Gut feeling that its Bryce Drew

[mvk112]

-Assistant coaching doesn't count. Neither does high school. Neither does recruiting players, 15 total, that are in the NBA, per you. I'm waiting for you to touch on the historic turnaround he did at Wilmington. We are all listening and waiting.

Point is, there for are tons of coaches out there who have won titles as assistant coaches. Who cares? Aha r, Louisville put players in the NBA well before Keatts was there, and will continue to do so.

Pitt should just hire Bob Hurley Sr, he's a helluva high school coach.

 

[steel_curtain]

Point is, there for are tons of coaches out there who have won titles as assistant coaches. Who cares? Aha r, Louisville put players in the NBA well before Keatts was there, and will continue to do so.

Pitt should just hire Bob Hurley Sr, he's a helluva high school coach.

Take a look at his coaching record in college. Something's missing, he doesn't win big anymore

 

[mvk112]

Who doesn't win big anymore? Pitino? They were Elite 8 last year, better than Keatts' last year there. They disqualified themselves this year due to what happened while Keatts was there, involving recruits. Hmm.

 

[steel_curtain]

Who doesn't win big anymore? Pitino? They were Elite 8 last year, better than Keatts' last year there. They disqualified themselves this year due to what happened while Keatts was there, involving recruits. Hmm.

-Jamie Dixon his last 5 years. Jamie Dixon at TCU.

 

[mvk112]

Oksy, so Pitt should hire a coach because he was good in high school? Maybe they should've just offered John Miller the job, not Sean.

 

[Pittbaseball11]

Seth Davis tweets that the names he's heard with Georgia Tech are Chris Mack, Archie Miller, and the likeliest candidate is.....Bryce Drew.

Of course.

 

[sherepower]

Xavier is same as Marquette... Gillen, Prosser, Matta, Miller. If Pitt was an attractive job, Chris Mack would be all over it.

Seriously, give me a reason why you think Pitt is not a top 30 program ? Ill give you 3 or 4 why i think it is.

1...... Plays in the best conference
2......Has one of the top 15 on campus arenas
3 ......Is willing to pay its coach top 20 money
4.......Has shown over a 14 year span you can be VERY successful if your a good coach.
5... Does not have a pro franchise to compete with like the football program has

Anybody who says Pitt is not a top 25 program simply is a fool

 

[Chairman Moe]

Seriously, give me a reason why you think Pitt is not a top 30 program ? Ill give you 3 or 4 why i think it is.

1...... Plays in the best conference
2......Has one of the top 15 on campus arenas
3 ......Is willing to pay its coach top 20 money
4.......Has shown over a 14 year span you can be VERY successful if your a good coach.
5... Does not have a pro franchise to compete with like the football program has

Anybody who says Pitt is not a top 25 program simply is a fool

I'll admit that it's a head-scratch-er as to why our basketball program seems to be like the red-headed stepchild at the family picnic.

Looking at your list, #1 is arguable although Duke is the reigning natl champ and certainly UNC and UVA have a chance to help the conference repeat this year; #2 - don't know where you got that stat, but it seems plausible; #3 - Dixon was #21 highest overall salary/compensation I think; #4 - Certainly there is no denying that save for a handful of other programs, Pitt has had one of the longer runs of success (winning season; Conf Championships; NCAAT bids) of any other DI program; #5 is a bit of a stretch, as Pittsburgh still ranks as Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, any other football, and then BB. If it weren't for the success Dixon had, Pitt BB probably would have always been on Page 2 or higher

As to the last sentence: right now, I would say that Pitt - is probably in the mid-30's as far as a program/desirable. Can't say objectively why; It just seems that it is what it is. Hopefully there is a great coach out there who will look at Pitt with a more favorable stare and becoming mesmerized by us!

 

[pittzap]

Seriously, give me a reason why you think Pitt is not a top 30 program ? Ill give you 3 or 4 why i think it is.

1...... Plays in the best conference
2......Has one of the top 15 on campus arenas
3 ......Is willing to pay its coach top 20 money
4.......Has shown over a 14 year span you can be VERY successful if your a good coach.
5... Does not have a pro franchise to compete with like the football program has

Anybody who says Pitt is not a top 25 program simply is a fool

While I agree, Pittsburgh is not located in a hotbed of basketball. We are also not a blue blood that recruits national.

In our best years we had a good share of players from New York. A coach would need to have a strong recruiting area background.

 

[mvk112]

Seriously, give me a reason why you think Pitt is not a top 30 program ? Ill give you 3 or 4 why i think it is.

1...... Plays in the best conference
2......Has one of the top 15 on campus arenas
3 ......Is willing to pay its coach top 20 money
4.......Has shown over a 14 year span you can be VERY successful if your a good coach.
5... Does not have a pro franchise to compete with like the football program has

Anybody who says Pitt is not a top 25 program simply is a fool

Seriously, give me a reason why you think Pitt is not a top 30 program ? Ill give you 3 or 4 why i think it is.

1...... Plays in the best conference
2......Has one of the top 15 on campus arenas
3 ......Is willing to pay its coach top 20 money
4.......Has shown over a 14 year span you can be VERY successful if your a good coach.
5... Does not have a pro franchise to compete with like the football program has

Anybody who says Pitt is not a top 25 program simply is a fool

If Pitt was a top 25 job they wouldn't be scouring the Colonial, Horizon, and Sun Belt for a coach, they'd take a Cuonzo Martin, Steve Prohm, Billy Kennedy, or Chris Mack.

 

[sherepower]

If Pitt was a top 25 job they wouldn't be scouring the Colonial, Horizon, and Sun Belt for a coach, they'd take a Cuonzo Martin, Steve Prohm, Billy Kennedy, or Chris Mack.

Oh. So that's why they are not a top 25 program according to you lol.

How do you know who we have hired? You seem to be the only one who does....just sayin

 

[mvk112]

Oh. So that's why they are not a top 25 program according to you lol.

How do you know who we have hired? You seem to be the only one who does....just sayin

They're interviewing Ben Jacobson. Bryce Drew is on the short list. These aren't guys you even consider if you have a top 25 job.

If this was a top 25 job, Sean Miller wouldn't have flamed it, and Archie would at least consider it. Not that I wanted Archie at all, but for him to proactively decline any interest goes to show that this job isn't a top job.

Gregg Marshall, Chris Mack, Cuonzo Martin, Steve Prohm, Billy Kennedy. Those are guys that would be targets for top 25 jobs.

 

[Piranha]

If Pitt was a top 25 job they wouldn't be scouring the Colonial, Horizon, and Sun Belt for a coach, they'd take a Cuonzo Martin, Steve Prohm, Billy Kennedy, or Chris Mack.

I do not want Martin or Kennedy, and Prohm is in the tournament. Martin is a flash in the pan, and I pray Kennedy stays healthy but he does not look that good on the sideline.

 

[Chairman Moe]

They're interviewing Ben Jacobson. Bryce Drew is on the short list. These aren't guys you even consider if you have a top 25 job.

If this was a top 25 job, Sean Miller wouldn't have flamed it, and Archie would at least consider it. Not that I wanted Archie at all, but for him to proactively decline any interest goes to show that this job isn't a top job.

Gregg Marshall, Chris Mack, Cuonzo Martin, Steve Prohm, Billy Kennedy. Those are guys that would be targets for top 25 jobs.

Well if any of these 5 guys get the GT job then it will be pretty clear that we're not quite the program we fans think we are. But I think that either Drew or Jacobson can be successful at Pitt if they can use their "core" coaching skills and build from being in a P5 conference

 

[steel_curtain]

They're interviewing Ben Jacobson. Bryce Drew is on the short list. These aren't guys you even consider if you have a top 25 job.

If this was a top 25 job, Sean Miller wouldn't have flamed it, and Archie would at least consider it. Not that I wanted Archie at all, but for him to proactively decline any interest goes to show that this job isn't a top job.

Gregg Marshall, Chris Mack, Cuonzo Martin, Steve Prohm, Billy Kennedy. Those are guys that would be targets for top 25 jobs.

-Not that it matters, but Drew rejected a huge offer from Iowa State last year. He also rejected Mississippi State before Howland took over. So at least get some facts straight.

 

[BFo8]

Seth Davis tweets that the names he's heard with Georgia Tech are Chris Mack, Archie Miller, and the likeliest candidate is.....Bryce Drew.

Of course.

If Davis is accurate on this it is very depressing. Georgia Tech?

 

[Piranha]

-Not that it matters, but Drew rejected a huge offer from Iowa State last year. He also rejected Mississippi State before Howland took over. So at least get some facts straight.

LOL - they just like to complain and are looking for a narrative for it once the new hire is made. Instead of Hail to Pitt - they chant Hail to Dixon.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

The GTech situation is interesting. They are now paying 2 ex coaches and if I recall what I read correctly they're not flush with cash either.

Edit - I found the tweet

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

If Davis is accurate on this it is very depressing. Georgia Tech?

 

[TD_6082]

If Pitt was a top 25 job they wouldn't be scouring the Colonial, Horizon, and Sun Belt for a coach, they'd take a Cuonzo Martin, Steve Prohm, Billy Kennedy, or Chris Mack.

Not necessarily. Sometimes, its all about timing and luck. And honestly, Chris Mack is the only name on that list that I would feel great about.

 

[mvk112]

Not necessarily. Sometimes, its all about timing and luck. And honestly, Chris Mack is the only name on that list that I would feel great about.

Those guys are all much better than Jacobson and Drew. And Enfield.

 

[Piranha]

Those guys are all much better than Jacobson and Drew. And Enfield.

So your cool with Cuonzo Martin even though he was coaching at TN when all their shenanigan were going on, and then he just had the fiasco with an assistant on his Cal staff. But yet you are worried about Keatts.

Prohm came from a Mid-Major and had Hoiberg's players, but you are worried about Wade coaching the players he helped recruit to VCU.

Kenndedy has some serious health concerns in which his health is more important than basketball.

 

[pittzap]

Those guys are all much better than Jacobson and Drew. And Enfield.

Drew is 119-47 and won the conference 4 out of 5 years. So he's no slouch.

 

[Piranha]

Drew is 119-47 and won the conference 4 out of 5 years. So he's no slouch.

He would be a good choice.

 

[mvk112]

So your cool with Cuonzo Martin even though he was coaching at TN when all their shenanigan were going on, and then he just had the fiasco with an assistant on his Cal staff. But yet you are worried about Keatts.

Prohm came from a Mid-Major and had Hoiberg's players, but you are worried about Wade coaching the players he helped recruit to VCU.

Kenndedy has some serious health concerns in which his health is more important than basketball.

Id be happy with Wade, bring Rasheen Davis with him. I don't see him taking a non Clemson ACC job though.

Prohm won the OVC four straight years, and he won a NCAA tournament game. He's a much better coach than Bryce Drew. Had Dixon left any of the last few years, he's the guy I would've wanted. Still want him, even with him being at ISU.

Cuonzo Martin had an assistant that made a dumb mistake, he was fired, that is nowhere near the same as being in the situation Keatts was in.

And I'm not against Keatts, I just don't think he's a slam dunk candidate just because of his high school resume and being an assistant while Pitino led Louisville to a title. That's ridiculous.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Drew is 119-47 and won the conference 4 out of 5 years. So he's no slouch.

Don't sell Drew short. He's a tremendous slouch.

 

[mvk112]

He would be a good choice.

If your first thought when you heard Dixon might be leaving was that you'd be happy with Bryce Drew as the next coach, you're either lying or had very low expectations.

 

[Pitt1992]

Wade signed an extension with VCU he isn't leaving

 

[Piranha]

Wade signed an extension with VCU he isn't leaving

He signed an extension in 2014 with UTC and was VCU's coach in 2015. Extensions mean little. When was this extension signed?

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

He signed an extension in 2014 with UTC and was VCU's coach in 2015. Extensions mean little. When was this extension signed?

You're on the right track regardless. Wouldn't matter if the ink was dry. Many guys have signed extensions and were gone shortly thereafter.

 

[Piranha]

You're on the right track regardless. Wouldn't matter if the ink was dry. Many guys have signed extensions and were gone shortly thereafter.

They need to make Wade and his staff an offer they cannot refuse.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

They need to make Wade and his staff an offer they cannot refuse.

Lots of guys have different opinions. I'm not afraid to say I have little clue who it should be. I just hope they get the "right guy" whoever it is.

 

[Zaratoughda]

IMO the hiring of Bryce Drew... with no experience AT ALL with the east coast let alone the ACC... would be tantamount to watching a choir boy getting run over by a freight train.

And the hiring of Jacobson... with no experience along the same lines... would be tantamount to watching... a MOOSE getting run over by a freight train.

(Yeah, lol... the moose would make the bigger mess but the choir boy would be really pitiful).

There are some coaches out there that are good coaches but DO NOT FIT.

We need a good coach that is gonna be a great recruiter up and down the east coast.

Hint: Kevin Keatts

 

[Black Panther]

The only problem with Capel would be he's gone once the Duke job ever opens up or he'l

Not necessarily. Sometimes, its all about timing and luck. And honestly, Chris Mack is the only name on that list that I would feel great about.

So why aren't we hearing if Mack is interested or not? If he want's to stay at his alma mater forever that's fine.But you would think you might want to take on another challenge sometime.What if Coach K had stayed at Army? Yeah, Duke had good teams prior to K but he's taken them to a even higher level.