Rankings are as much about overall record as anything else, they only partially take into account who you played and where you played. For instance had Pitt played Iowa ST in Pittsburgh instead of OK st on the road Pitt's record is 8-3 and Pitt is probably ranked around 18 to 20. Wouldn't make Pitt a better team it would just be from playing a weaker opponent.
No, I did not riot when JoePa was fired. What I am saying is to lump the entire university under the umbrella of Ped St is moronic and I'd venture to say that most people would agree with that statement.
No, it is very, very easy to argue Pitt's schedule is MUCH better than Penn State's. It is an entirely different argument to say Pitt is the better team (1 head to head win doesn't mean one team is better than the other, whether it is Pitt/PSU or PSU/OSU) or has had/will have the more impressive season.
So...this argument...IMO a very valid and relevant argument. Unfortunately for PSU fans, it means they have 2 National Championships (and of course they don't even have any others to claim) to Pitt's 1. Not much more relevant and essentially no different. So, your best argument here is 1 more tick of relevance and (unfortunately for PSU fans) it came under a despicable man, who cared more about his legacy than innocent children and doing the right thing, so his reputation, accomplishments, and program are now forever marred.
Yeah, it doesn't work that way IMO. We played once. We were the better team that day and deserved to win, but they also could have easily won. They wouldn't have meant they were the clear better team.
That seems to be the whole problem, you somehow can't seem to fathom that Penn State fans supporting the team, in no way diminishes our outrage over Sandusky's acts. Anyone who says "Legions" knew about it, is simply making things up. To the best of anyone's knowledge, only 5 people knew anything about it (until it was made public) and since Curly, Schultz, and Spanier have yet to go to trial, noboby still knows what they actually did or didn't do. Some on here make it sound like everybody knew what was going on, when anyone with any common sense knows, that simply isn't true.
Except the issue is the (yes) legions of PSU fans who still idolize one of the perpetrators, who allowed and facilitated the abuse for years because it would have otherwised tarnished his legacy. You have BoT members who were elected solely on their support for him being canonized. That means (yes) there are legions of despicable and disgusting PSU fans and undeniably culture problem that still exists at the lowest and highest levels of support and leadership at PSU.
Well, under any number of circumstances. Of course Miami beat the crap out of us, while PSU was literally a play (not even a fluke play, but a pass they just missed on and an int in the endzone) from beating us. Neither team is clearly better. We were just better that one time. For the record, even though Miami beat the crap out of us, they aren't that much better than us either. I think that in a similar 10 game series could go either way.
This simply is not true. I know a Penn st linebacker from the early 90's who flat out told me it was a running joke around the program.
I http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/28/us/penn-state-scandal-fast-facts/....read the CNN time line...don't understand the arguments u guys make...little kids were hurt....
