If tjthat'the case and he says it was an accident, then I drop my 3 games to 1 game. We are trying to win basketball games. I bought season tickets and I want to see some wins. I can care less what these guys are doing in their spare time unless we're talking real serious crimes here
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If tjthat'the case and he says it was an accident, then I drop my 3 games to 1 game. We are trying to win basketball games. I bought season tickets and I want to see some wins. I can care less what these guys are doing in their spare time unless we're talking real serious crimes here
I think it’ll be more than one game just because I don’t think he’s playing before he has a preliminary hearing, so it’ll depend on scheduling. But if that’s the way it played out (and I think it’s way more likely than not that it is) I don’t see a way the agg assault charges stick. I think we’re going to end up in the simple assault/disorderly conduct zone.
I don’t know how aggressively any press wants to pursue it but I would think it would be fairly easy to get the footage with a FOIA request of some sort. And depending on what it shows it’s possible the police will just release it anyway.
I don't think FOIA covers law enforcement files during an active investigation. Can only get those after the fact.
This is all on Capel. Why is a player getting drunk at a club during season> Punching a cop? Capel and the player need to hit the road ASAP.
It's his 3rd grade teacher's fault!
Coaches can advise but they can't dictate what a player does at 2 AM.
I'd say this is surprising but does anything regarding this team surprise anymore?
Certainly sounds logical and reasonable. I was just saying it because it would be interesting for everyone to be able to see it then see where everyone’s position is. Whenever that may be.
He is over 21. And I'd be shocked if the cop is completely innocent here.
Capel is lousy enough to get fired on his record.
That's the reality. It won't matter who's on the team and who isn't at this point. If Horton is gone, play someone else. We'll still finish at or near the bottom of the league with or without him.
I don't think it matters how this shakes out. It will be more interesting to see if/how Capel handles the situation and the culture of the team. He may just handle it just enough to put another nail in his coffin here at Pitt.
I would also like to blame the tow truck driver if I can. What does the law say about a situation where you return to your car and find it is in the PROCESS of being towed? This happened to me once on Dawson St when I was a student. They just got there and were getting out of their truck and the guy said he still had to charge me the full $180 because they were called. I said I'm here, I'll move it and you haven't done anything. We had a little argument but I paid the $180. I never thought that was right though
Well, if the cop is pulling your hands behind your back and your hand brushes his/her body, they can charge you for assaulting an officer.
This would be the smartest course of action. Hey Heather, it’s a complete rebuild and I’m cleaning it up. Look, making an example of a kid despite what it’ll mean for our team (which probably isn’t much). Buy yourself another year or so with this approach.
Nice. Blame the cop for some punk punching him in the face.
I’d hate to hear you assign blame in domestic cases.
Here’s my initial thoughts, and hear me out here guys…this hoops program somehow gets more embarrassing by the day, there is no culture, there are no leaders, not even any decent basketball players either, I am beyond embarrassed and while this particular incident obviously isn’t Capels fault I honestly do not care. He can’t coach a lick regardless of what happens outside the court. Just so happens the on court and off court product are somehow both equally EMBARRASSING
I’m actually impressed that Pitt is still somehow viewed relevant enough in hoops for this to make the espn ticker like it has…
I think Capel should be more concerned with doing the right thing in this situation rather than giving one of his players up to an angry mob to try and get some more job security.
We were very close to hiring Sean Miller. Were afraid of a show-cause which you and I know aint coming. Will Wade was basically telling the FBI he was paying dudes and he's doing great. Say what you want about Miller but this program would be at or near NCAAT level if he had been the coach. We would not have had 4 straight bottom 2-3 finishes.
The #1 problem for Capel has been recruiting. None of us thought he was an excellent X and O guy. He was supposed to get players and he hasn't. I don't care what they do off the court but he needs players. If he cant recruit, he has to go.
Charges get dropped to about nothing he'll be on the team in a few weeks. No one will care. He'll be a fine citizen the rest of the way and it'll barely mentioned again.
Hate be the one who breaks this to you. Brandon, Julius, etc didn't have a practice without hangovers their last year here.
Obviously didn’t work for you. Try SQ3R. It’s better for comprehension. And for writing, try CCDW.
"As the officers walked away, Horton allegedly yelled at the officers, which included a derogatory comment directed at a female officer."
So everything was "over." Officers leaving the scene, drunk dude yells something and they cuff him? This type of sh!t needs to stop. If that is true and they arrested a drunk guy for yelling something derogatory, he should be given a 0 game suspension and also sue the PPD. These cops think they are Superman sometimes. Just walk the eff away. Dude is drunk. Its 2AM. Don't try to be a tough guy. This is a perfect example of over-policing.
So everything was "over." Officers leaving the scene, drunk dude yells something and they cuff him? This type of sh!t needs to stop. If that is true and they arrested a drunk guy for yelling something derogatory, he should be given a 0 game suspension and also sue the PPD. These cops think they are Superman sometimes. Just walk the eff away. Dude is drunk. Its 2AM. Don't try to be a tough guy. This is a perfect example of over-policing.
Probably. And he probably would if he weren’t on the verge of an 0- season and possible firing. If he had any modicum of success or upward trajectory he could wait this out, like it appeared to be with Hugley. Unfortunately that is no longer the case and will most likely cost Horton his eligibility here.
This is not gonna end in a zero game suspension lol. He’s most likely played his last game here.
Sean Miller will never coach at Pitt.
I would give him 0 games. He most likely will be suspended like 10 games or so. He will play for us again. I was right about Hugley and you were wrong. It will happen again.
Bottom line is the court system in the US doesn’t usually go against cops. A drunk person who is acting disorderly and calling a police woman a bitch than hits an officer in the face while being arrested isn’t getting the benefit of the doubt in this country from the prosecutor or courts. Especially with it on police cams, street cams, and with an eye witness.
He will be guilty and I don’t think this is a slap on the wrist. If he plays again it won’t be much. It is what it is even if the cops did some instigating.
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