How can we keep Matt Canada?

[Sean Miller Fan]

If he gets a HC job, ok but we cant lose him to a like school or a school that isnt a whole lot better. If Bama hires him after Kiffin gets a HC job somewhere, ok, that's Bama. If Harbaugh wants him because their OC goes somewhere, ok, that's Michigan (just random examples, not that they are possible), but we cant lose him to Tennessee or South Carolina or Iowa is what I'm saying.

Pitt has to be prepared to make him one of the highest paid OC's in the country. His offense is so fun, so imaginitive, so productive, I dont want to think about looking for a new OC.

 

[Teh Teh]

I think many are overestimating one season

He will be on many teams watch list but I think he will need one more season before he leaves

 

[ThePanthers]

Pay the man. That is all we can do. I'm not worried.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Give him a hefty raise and hope he sticks around. Nothing you can do aside from that. Hopefully he sticks around but if he doesn't, I think we will be fine. We have an offensive identity now and I don't see us going back to the offense we had last year.

 

[Swervin27]

If he gets a HC job, ok but we cant lose him to a like school or a school that isnt a whole lot better. If Bama hires him after Kiffin gets a HC job somewhere, ok, that's Bama. If Harbaugh wants him because their OC goes somewhere, ok, that's Michigan (just random examples, not that they are possible), but we cant lose him to Tennessee or South Carolina or Iowa is what I'm saying.

Pitt has to be prepared to make him one of the highest paid OC's in the country. His offense is so fun, so imaginitive, so productive, I dont want to think about looking for a new OC.

We need to get creative. I'd say money but that may not be enough. You guys remember in Godfather 2, the dead hooker scene with the Nevada Senator Geary? Im just saying, it worked for the Corleone family

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

Couldn't the same be said for PSU and their OC? Dude did great as well. In both cases, do what you can to keep him. If you can't, hire an OC with a similar skill set a la Clemson after Morris left, etc.

 

[eastcoasthoops]

If he gets a HC job, ok but we cant lose him to a like school or a school that isnt a whole lot better. If Bama hires him after Kiffin gets a HC job somewhere, ok, that's Bama. If Harbaugh wants him because their OC goes somewhere, ok, that's Michigan (just random examples, not that they are possible), but we cant lose him to Tennessee or South Carolina or Iowa is what I'm saying.

Pitt has to be prepared to make him one of the highest paid OC's in the country. His offense is so fun, so imaginitive, so productive, I dont want to think about looking for a new OC.

There isn't ANY indication that Canada's name has been associated with any current or potential opening at this time. Yet, you create a post hinting that his departure is almost assured.

Question SMF, do you ever have a thought that blips into your brain that you DONT post?

Filter man. Filter.

 

[pittmeister]

If he gets a HC job, ok but we cant lose him to a like school or a school that isnt a whole lot better. If Bama hires him after Kiffin gets a HC job somewhere, ok, that's Bama. If Harbaugh wants him because their OC goes somewhere, ok, that's Michigan (just random examples, not that they are possible), but we cant lose him to Tennessee or South Carolina or Iowa is what I'm saying.

Pitt has to be prepared to make him one of the highest paid OC's in the country. His offense is so fun, so imaginitive, so productive, I dont want to think about looking for a new OC.

All universities face this dilemma. Quit creating drama that doesn't exist at the moment.

 

[damase2331]

IF he has offers to move, then you pay him. If Pitt ponies up it will show a commitment to recruits, fans, Narduzzi, etc. If it becomes an actual issue, other than just everyone saying he is going to be looking to leave or whatever, then Pitt can make alot of people shut up, opposing coaches on the the recruiting trail and fans alike, that they have no commitment to the FB program.

If they have an opportunity to keep him and they don't, then Narduzzi and the fans have a right to be P.O.ed. If he is offered a situation he cannot refuse, then so be it.

But it appears that Narduzzi is the 1st coach to give him full reigns of his offense. And Pitt was able to get him here, when Tennessee couldn't in the past. IMO, I think Pitt pays him, regardless of new offers.

 

[PantherO]

Does anyone know if he actually wants to become a HC? That is an honest question.

That we can not control. All we can do is hope the Pitt admin pays him some $$ to stay.

 

[Swervin27]

All universities face this dilemma. Quit creating drama that doesn't exist at the moment.

yeah seriously. if he leaves, then we find another OC to come in.. SOmehow, we will go on, find a way to live our lives going forward. The sun will come up, we had a football program before Matt Canada and I assure all of you, we will have a football program after Matt Canada..

 

[ThePanthers]

Honestly, we should go to his house and tie him down so he can't leave.

 

[vegasgreed]

personally, i don't think he's leaving after this year. he's moved around quite a bit, him and narduzzi seem to have a good relationship. maybe he's looking for some stability.

 

[steel_curtain]

personally, i don't think he's leaving after this year. he's moved around quite a bit, him and narduzzi seem to have a good relationship. maybe he's looking for some stability.

-5 jobs for different teams in the last 19 years is moving around a lot? I could find coaches that flip to a new school yearly

 

[vegasgreed]

i was thinking more recent, 4 jobs since 2011.

 

[steel_curtain]

i was thinking more recent, 4 jobs since 2011.

-Fair enough, but both Wisconsin and NC State completely blew it with Canada for bad relationships.

 

[Big Marty1]

1 million

 

[PittMan 72]

Some excellent ways to help are to buy season tickets through Pitt and donate $$$$ to the Pitt football program instead of just posting on message boards.

 

[Panthergrowl13]

Maybe make him assistant HC/OC and pay him.

For all of the Pitt whiners who want a new $400 million 50,000 capacity stadium.

Save the money by staying at Heinz and put it to good use by increasing Matt Canada's salary and making a long term commitment to Narduzzi and his staff.

Forget the stadium, keep the coach and staff in place.

$400 million will go a long way in being able to keep the HC and staff for many years.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[President Stache]

Simply put... no OC will be making good HC money, and it wont happen. We can pay him a million, but if ND offers him 4 million a year, he will go to ND... even if he doesnt want to be a HC and sucks at it... he has probably 12 million guaranteed to fall back on.

I want to keep the guy, think he should stay, but come on... if someone big wants him, he will be gone. I would do the same thing if I was him.

 

[Las Panteras]

If Matt Canada leaves, then hire Ron Mexico.

problem solved.

 

[steel_curtain]

Maybe make him assistant HC/OC and pay him.

For all of the Pitt whiners who want a new $400 million 50,000 capacity stadium.

Say the money by staying at Heinz and put it to good use by increasing Matt Canada's salary and making a long term commitment to Narduzzi and his staff.

Forget the stadium, keep the coach and staff in place.

$400 million will go a long way in being able to keep the HC and staff for many years.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

-Since Narduzzi is the 2nd lowest paid coach in the entire acc at 2 million per year. And we dumped Jamie Dixons 3 mil a year basketball salary. If Pitt chooses to not offer Canada an extra paltry 200-400k, we would then know this administration has zero interest in winning. A 1 million dollar salary makes Canada the 2nd highest paid oc in division 1 football as of today. A paltry 200k increase puts him in the top 3 highest paid in the entire country. Considering Narduzzi's salary is dirt cheap, we would officially have the cheapest most brain dead administration ever if we didn't offer this money. Considering we just loaded 4 million in football upgrades this year, I don't think barnes is that stupid. Canada will get a big raise and stay unless he want to be a d1 coach, which he is not ready for yet.

 

[steel_curtain]

Will Pitt pay him $1 million. I am thinking he is going to get offers around $800K up to close to a million.

-Doubtful, since he has shown next to zero ability to recruit. So thinking there is going to be this monster wave of teams coming after Canada offering him a million dollars when our own recruiting has not seen any major uptick since he got here would be crazy from another top teams standpoint. From Pitts standpoint, you build the relationship with him now and lock him in now. Considering we have Narduzzi so friggin cheap, we can make this offer in our sleep

 

[steel_curtain]

This is a deflection and ignores the quite good point raised by PittMan72.

If Pitt fans are concerned about this issue, please call the Panther Club and donate. Donations to booster clubs are exactly the type of money that helps to pay increased salaries to football assistant coaches.

Given your posts on this board, you appear quite concerned about the issue. There's a way to address that concern in a productive manner.

Talking about the size of Pitt's fan base doesn't somehow remove any ability to donate. Actually, it makes it all the more important.

There is no need to donate a penny to keep Canada when we pay an acc football coach 2 million per year, 2nd cheapest in the entire acc and barely cracks the top 70 nationally.

 

[Pitt Law '04]

There is no need to donate a penny to keep Canada when we pay an acc football coach 2 million per year, 2nd cheapest in the entire acc and barely cracks the top 70 nationally.

And, at some point, we'll have to pay Narduzzi more. Or Canada more. Or maybe donate because you want to support the team.

I find it unbelievable that people who care enough about Pitt football to post on this board have to be convinced to make a modest donation to support the program.

Then people wonder why the program doesn't win more.

 

[UPitt '89]

If Matt Canada leaves, then hire Ron Mexico.

problem solved.

I'm afraid that will make our offense go south.

 

[steel_curtain]

And, at some point, we'll have to pay Narduzzi more. Or Canada more. Or maybe donate because you want to support the team.

I find it unbelievable that people who care enough about Pitt football to post on this board have to be convinced to make a modest donation to support the program.

Then people wonder why the program doesn't win more.

-It has nothing to do about modest donation. It has everything to do with our AD stepping up to the plate and zoning in to make something happen. The basketball coaching search was a complete disaster and Barnes hired a friend to do the job, already putting major dirt on his resume and a sour taste in peoples mouths. Its a 2 way street. Winning fills the seats which leads to happier people which leads to more donation. Pitt fans have been literally run over by Pitts shitty leadership and administration the last 6 years. Its time leadership by Barnes is executed by keeping Canada before hard working people throw there money into donations. Lock up Canada and win big next year in year 3 and show commitment to winning, then the donations should start to come in waves.

 

[SVPanther]

Context is a good thing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...d3e-11e5-ae1f-af46b7df8483_story.html?0p19G=c

 

[NittanyJP]

I have to say I really like the approach Urban Meyer takes with all assistants hires...require a minimum two year commitment to be hired. After that pursue at will but it least it prevents the "one and done" philosophy. I am sure other coaches do this, just remember it being a big deal with Meyer as tOSU has lost a bunch of assistants to HC jobs.

 

[ThePanthers]

-It has nothing to do about modest donation. It has everything to do with our AD stepping up to the plate and zoning in to make something happen. The basketball coaching search was a complete disaster and Barnes hired a friend to do the job, already putting major dirt on his resume and a sour taste in peoples mouths. Its a 2 way street. Winning fills the seats which leads to happier people which leads to more donation. Pitt fans have been literally run over by Pitts shitty leadership and administration the last 6 years. Its time leadership by Barnes is executed by keeping Canada before hard working people throw there money into donations. Lock up Canada and win big next year in year 3 and show commitment to winning, then the donations should start to come in waves.

Narduzzi seems to believe in the admin's commitment. Got an extension and a raise last year which you are not including. Did a total overhaul of the locker room, media room, etc. And just the other day says he believes that the Pitt admin will fully support the assistant coaches with proper raises. I don't know where you are getting all of this other crap.

Your attitude toward this is not how college athletics works. When you want a change, or when you want to keep somene, the boosters/donors step up.

We've got 2 years of winning since there was an overhaul at the top. If you keep waiting to donate, these people will move on.

 

[steel_curtain]

Narduzzi seems to believe in the admin's commitment. Got an extension and a raise last year which you are not including. Did a total overhaul of the locker room, media room, etc. And just the other day says he believes that the Pitt admin will fully support the assistant coaches with proper raises. I don't know where you are getting all of this other crap.

Your attitude toward this is not how college athletics works. When you want a change, or when you want to keep somene, the boosters/donors step up.

We've got 2 years of winning since there was an overhaul at the top. If you keep waiting to donate, these people will move on.

-My point is as clear as crystal. If Pitt cannot afford a paltry 200-400k when we pay our own football coach 2 million per year, there is zero commitment to trying to win and win big here. 400k is peanut Money, my friend. And we don't even need to offer that. 200k would suffice.

 

[ThePanthers]

-My point is as clear as crystal. If Pitt cannot afford a paltry 200-400k when we pay our own football coach 2 million per year, there is zero commitment to trying to win and win big here. 400k is peanut Money, my friend. And we don't even need to offer that. 200k would suffice.

Donate to support that paltry 200-400K.

 

[Pitt Law '04]

-It has nothing to do about modest donation. It has everything to do with our AD stepping up to the plate and zoning in to make something happen. The basketball coaching search was a complete disaster and Barnes hired a friend to do the job, already putting major dirt on his resume and a sour taste in peoples mouths. Its a 2 way street. Winning fills the seats which leads to happier people which leads to more donation. Pitt fans have been literally run over by Pitts shitty leadership and administration the last 6 years. Its time leadership by Barnes is executed by keeping Canada before hard working people throw there money into donations. Lock up Canada and win big next year in year 3 and show commitment to winning, then the donations should start to come in waves.

This is just a serious of excuses as to why you feel you shouldn't donate.

Neither Barnes nor Narduzzi (or Canada for that matter) are responsible for decisions made 6 years ago.

The school has spent a ton of money and shown a real commitment to winning on the football field through hiring Narduzzi, obviously giving him a competitive budget for assistants, improved facilities, etc.

You bring up the basketball hire as a way to deflect from the football program. I've got news for you--if you're going to wait until the Athletic Director makes every decision consistent with your likes and dislikes until you donate--well, you won't ever have to write a check. Pretty convenient for you, isn't it?

The AD already "stepped up" by extending Narduzzi (and presumably paying him more money) a year ago and through other obvious upgrades.

Finally, we've won 16 regular season games over the past 2 years and beaten a host of quality teams. I'm not sure how you define "winning" but if you're waiting for the glory days of three straight 11-1 seasons like 35 years ago in order to crack open your wallet, you're going to be waiting a long time.

The program can do better and is on an upward trajectory. It's at moments like this that increased donations can help it improve even more.

 

[Panthergrowl13]

Similar situation when Pitt had Jackie Sherrill as the head coach.

AD Bozik let him walk and as they say the rest is history.

Pitt has been trying to recover from that mistake for decades.

Penny wise and pound foolish.

If you look at many successful college football programs, what you see is continuity of HC and staff.

Sure you will lose some staff over time but a solid core (HC,OC and DC) will keep you successful long term.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[steel_curtain]

This is just a serious of excuses as to why you feel you shouldn't donate.

Neither Barnes nor Narduzzi (or Canada for that matter) are responsible for decisions made 6 years ago.

The school has spent a ton of money and shown a real commitment to winning on the football field through hiring Narduzzi, obviously giving him a competitive budget for assistants, improved facilities, etc.

You bring up the basketball hire as a way to deflect from the football program. I've got news for you--if you're going to wait until the Athletic Director makes every decision consistent with your likes and dislikes until you donate--well, you won't ever have to write a check. Pretty convenient for you, isn't it?

The AD already "stepped up" by extending Narduzzi (and presumably paying him more money) a year ago and through other obvious upgrades.

Finally, we've won 16 regular season games over the past 2 years and beaten a host of quality teams. I'm not sure how you define "winning" but if you're waiting for the glory days of three straight 11-1 seasons like 35 years ago in order to crack open your wallet, you're going to be waiting a long time.

The program can do better and is on an upward trajectory. It's at moments like this that increased donations can help it improve even more.

-Our football Coach's annual salary is barely in the Top 70 in the entire country AFTER the renegotiation. That means Pitt was even cheaper before. How cheap do you want to be, out of the Top 100 schools Nationally for our football Coach playing in a Power 5 ACC Conference? I already agreed the football upgrade was a great addition for the $4 million that was spent. This has nothing to do with needing a National Title or an 11-1 season or a Coastal Title or even winning 9 games. This has to do with keeping someone that actually earned his money and shelling out an additional 200-400K to keep a quality coach that will put butts in the seats by running a high powered explosive offense while we continue to pay our head football coach peanut money. No one should have to pay anything right now for Pitt to shell out 200-400K to guarantee Canada stays here. Not after what we currently pay our football coach, and basketball coach, for that matter.

 

[ThePanthers]

Similar situation when Pitt had Jackie Sherrill as the head coach.

AD Bozik let him walk and as they say the rest is history.

Pitt has been trying to recover from that mistake for decades.

Penny wise and pound foolish.

If you look at many successful college football programs, what you see is continuity of HC and staff.

Sure you will lose some staff over time but a solid core (HC,OC and DC) will keep you successful long term.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

And a lot of those programs have boosters/donors that step up big time to keep those coaches happy. Hell, Bama donors are paying for Saban's multi-million dollar home even though the guy makes millions himself. They step up and pretty much pay for the coordinators themselves. They step up to pay buyouts when they aren't happy. Etc. Etc.

 

[Pitt Law '04]

-Our football Coach's annual salary is barely in the Top 70 in the entire country AFTER the renegotiation. That means Pitt was even cheaper before. How cheap do you want to be, out of the Top 100 schools Nationally for our football Coach playing in a Power 5 ACC Conference? I already agreed the football upgrade was a great addition for the $4 million that was spent. This has nothing to do with needing a National Title or an 11-1 season or a Coastal Title or even winning 9 games. This has to do with keeping someone that actually earned his money and shelling out an additional 200-400K to keep a quality coach that will put butts in the seats by running a high powered explosive offense while we continue to pay our head football coach peanut money. No one should have to pay anything right now for Pitt to shell out 200-400K to guarantee Canada stays here. Not after what we currently pay our football coach, and basketball coach, for that matter.

Let me get this straight. Your position is that we shouldn't donate because Pitt doesn't pay its coaches enough?

 

[ThePanthers]

-Our football Coach's annual salary is barely in the Top 70 in the entire country AFTER the renegotiation. That means Pitt was even cheaper before. How cheap do you want to be, out of the Top 100 schools Nationally for our football Coach playing in a Power 5 ACC Conference? I already agreed the football upgrade was a great addition for the $4 million that was spent. This has nothing to do with needing a National Title or an 11-1 season or a Coastal Title or even winning 9 games. This has to do with keeping someone that actually earned his money and shelling out an additional 200-400K to keep a quality coach that will put butts in the seats by running a high powered explosive offense while we continue to pay our head football coach peanut money. No one should have to pay anything right now for Pitt to shell out 200-400K to guarantee Canada stays here. Not after what we currently pay our football coach, and basketball coach, for that matter.

Can you show me a link that shows that? Narduzzi's salary for 2016?

 

[Pitt Law '04]

Can you show me a link that shows that? Narduzzi's salary for 2016?

To my understanding, Pitt does not disclose its coaches' salaries. They are not listed in the USATODAY database. You have to wait for Pitt's tax filings, which have not been posted for the years that Narduzzi is the coach.

So I don't know how anyone would know Narduzzi's salary.

 

[steel_curtain]

Let me get this straight. Your position is that we shouldn't donate because Pitt doesn't pay its coaches enough?

-No. My position is Pitt has been cheap and frugal for many years with poor leadership. And when you have a shit product and shit administration for decades, people are not quite so forgiving so easily, especially when a brand new AD makes a complete bonehead decision in the way the basketball coach was found and hired (Im talking about the process here, not Stallings)

-My point is to win over the crowd, show the crowd you want to win. Give the man his raise then ask for money. Dont ask for money first and then try to negotiate salary with Canada. My opinion would be clearly different if we actually paid Narduzzi a legit P5 salary. But sadly, we dont. And we can easily, EASILY, in our sleep, pay 200-400K for an assistant when we pay our head coach high end midmajor money.