How can we keep Matt Canada?
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They need to be willing to match the money that the big boys are willing to spend! With the ACC contract they should be able to come up into the range that teams like bama and LSU are paying. If it takes 1.25 million then Pitt should match. OC is the most important position on this team after HC. If you need to go cheap on a DC(just a figure head anyway) then thats fine but if Pitt is going to have success under PN then you need to have a very good OC. They should also be looking for a young up and comer who can learn MC offense and step in when he leaves, which if he continue's to have success won't be more than another year maybe two.
Tom Herman-Houston AAC Conference- $3 Million
Mike Norvell-Memphis- AAC Conference- $1.8 Million
Tommy Tuberville- AAC Conference- $2.2 Million
Ken Niumtalolo- AAC Conference- $2.0 Million
Steve Addazio- Boston College- $2.4 Million
Dana Holgerson- West Virginia- $3 Million
Bronco Mendenhall-Virginia- $3.3 Million
Gary Patterson-TCU - $4.1 Million
Will Taggert- AAC Confernce- $1.8 Million
Perhaps Pitt should join the AAC and leave the ACC?
Have said this numerous times when the new stadium topic comes up. Its really simple instead of spending the money on a stadium, put it into coaches and pay as much as the big boys. Then Pitt will start winning more and more people will go to heinz field. Its not rocket science, Pitt is going to have to win before fans pack any stadium, unless they build one with 35k seats. But win 10 games three years in a row and you are going to average 60k fans.
If they lose him to a lateral move for a salary in the 1 million range, they might as well fold the program because Pitt is never going to win more than we are right now. Even giving PN a big raise and paying Canada top money wouldn't put them up close to what teams like fsu,bama, lsu are spending.
-Midmajor programs pay more money than Pitt. You dont find that to be a disgrace? Why doesnt someone email Ron Cook and tell that clown to actually write a real article that actually has some meat on the bone instead of offering his useless playoff predictions and who should win the hesiman.
-I think how much Pitt spends on their coaches and how cheap they are for being in a Power 5 ACC Conference would be an excellent subject. Especially when the University decided to save itself an additional $1 Million per year by getting rid of Jamie Dixon.
Have you read any of this thread? Does Pitt command the type of donations and ticket sales on par with Bama and LSU?
Some of you really don't understand how any of this works, do you?
I think his point is that it doesn't matter if the fans pay or not, Pitt should have the money to pay him regardless and if they don't it shows they really aren't committed to winning but are just posturing. If the school is committed to winning they should have no problem spend another 500k to keep him. They are getting 25 million a year from the ACC. I agree fans should donate, but Pitt fans more than just about any other(maybe pirates fans) have been brutalized for the last 30 years by the Pitt administration. Maybe they need to spend the money to get the money. They have tried being cheap for thirty years and it hasn't worked. But guess what when they had success in BB they suddenly sold out every home game year in advance.
What does any of that have to do with piss poor Pitt alumni support of athletics or the line in the sand you drew with the "Pitt fans shouldn't spend one more dollar" or whatever you said BS?
And for what its worth...your own list just further proves the point that its private donations that make the difference. Do you think the University of Memphis and the University of Cincinnati are shaking the pockets of their students for those salaries? Do you think they have renegotiated contracts with faculty to free up spending? Maybe they have printing presses in the basement of their respective libraries spitting out $100 bills?
Your argument is quizzical.
-What does Bama or LSU have to do with the fact Pat Narduzzi is getting paid midmajor AAC money? Again, how cheap would you like to go? North Texas pays its head Coach $1 Million a year. They average 17,000 fans per game recently, LOL
What is the basis for your assertion that Narduzzi is getting paid "midmajor AAC money"? You've made the claim repeatedly. How do you know?
Pitt doesn't publish the salaries of its coaches. Tell us how you know and supply the link to the evidence.
It's just another excuse not to donate, but whine on message boards.
Narduzzi, Barnes, Gallagher--none of them have anything to do with what happened 30 years ago.
-I believe Barnes had everything to do with the fact that Jamie Dixon is gone and the University saves $1 Million per year with new hire Stallings when comparing contracts.
-So now that are basketball program saves $1 Million per year. Where is that money going? And dont tell me something like softball.
You are correct that Pitt needs to increase its Donor base. But you on here bitching about it isn't going to change anything. Pitt is at a point where they need to spend money to make money. Invest in the program at a level of a 20 to 40th caliber team and hope we got the right coaches in place to have success. Only then is Pitt going to increase donations. If they let Canada go to another school as a OC and he is making 1 million then we are going to know the admin isn't going to step up to the plate. Pitt's current lack of donations is only going to be helped by winning and winning for a extended period of time. You pointed out PSU was getting huge donations despite 15 years of basically putting the same product on the field but what you fail to recognize is they also had a 15 year period between when Pitt was good till then where they won 2 NC and were one of the top programs in the country. If Pitt had a run like that donations would be a lot higher as well.
steel doesn't really bother himself with "evidence" or whatever you want to call it.
I'm not bitching about it. I'm stating what is plainly evident to everyone on here except for the entitled few like you and Steel who feel that you can sit on your hands and let the TV dollars rain down and solve all your problems.
Stick your head in the sand some more and see how much the world around you changes.
I agree that Pitt should pay competitive salaries. Probably have to pay a little bit of a premium to show good faith even, considering the last 10-15-30 years.
But to say that booster dollars don't matter or that supporters shouldn't invest or that the lack of alumni engagement isn't an albatross that hangs around the entire athletic program's neck is beyond illogical or unrealistic.
It's just plain dumb.
-William Dietrich donated $125 Million dollars to the University less than 5 years ago. The University can't find 200-400K to keep an Elite Assistant football Coach after the University and Administration completely ruined Pitt football for 30 years? And Pitt pays Pat Narduzzi midmajor money and Narduzzi is barely in the Top 70 in paid coaches Nationally? And Pitt's football attendance is at all time high and breaking records under Narduzzi? And Pitt has its best offense ever in the history of the program? And Pitt is getting large payouts by being in the ACC instead of that garbage Big East league we were in? And Pitt should expect the donors to give even more when the Pitt football program was a colossal train wreck for almost 30 years? I believe the University OWES the donors and the Pitt supports and the Pitt fans for their shit product they put on the field for 30 years.
-If Pitt cant afford 200-400K, get a loan. Its how most Americans live anyway.
Your realize Pitt's athletic department makes around $50-70M less than the "big boys" on an annual basis?
Well he's been here 11 months.
QB recruits commit really early nowadays.
Can't really judge Canada the recruiter until next year.
With those two bolded lines you proved that 1) You don't understand how fund raising or endowments work. 2) Just how narrow minded and naive you are.
Stick to predicting the whims of 18 year olds. You will look less foolish.
-What difference does that make? They could make $1 trillion less per year. What does any other team have to do with Pitt's own financials? The answer is nothing.
-How does that change the fact of what has been said. Pitt should be able to afford 200-400K without 1 extra penny from anyone. How can a University that is in a P5 Power Conference not able to afford an extra 200-400K? Do you how ridiculous and cheap that even sounds?
-I know exactly how it works
-Do you know how much money Scott Barnes wasted and gave away to his stupid friend on Pitt's basketball search for that search company that had a direct tie in to Stallings? Do you really want to go there and start breaking things down?
-The answer to the above question is 75K per search on average. I heard Barnes paid 90K. 90K of money flushed down the toilet, for, well, nothing.
-Hell, 90K is almost half of 200K. Glad I do not talk to him for investment advice.
You asking these questions make you sound even dumber.
You are putting the 200-400K in a vacuum. If another school that makes $1trillion more than Pitt offers Canada a $500M raise because they make so much more money than Pitt, it does make a difference.
Like someone else said, you have to pay him FMV to stay. If other schools are offering a lot more and price out Pitt, that is an issue. That is where additional donations, etc make a real difference.
If no one else is going after Canada, or schools are only offerering "peanuts" as you call it, Pitt will pay it.
-Well now, you finally agree with me. Because $1 Million as of TODAY makes Matt Canada the 2nd highest paid offensive coordinator in division 1 football. And no, 99% of all schools in division 1 football are NOT going to offer Matt Canada over $1 Million dollars. Im not even sure LSU would do it.
But I am sure all those AAC schools are taking in the extra 20 million(difference in payouts between AAC and ACC in donations! Nope I doubt VA,BC and WVU are taking in much more than Pitt
If that is the case then we should not have anymore discussions on building a new stadium.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
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-hahaha. Pitt can't afford 200-400k to keep a legit coach and people are talking a new stadium? Did we win the lottery? Haha
Memphis and Houston each have a mega donor that is pretty much covering those salaries.
UVA ($91M), BC ($88M) and WVU($90M) bring in about $20M more a year than Pitt ($70M) in total athletic revenues.
I realize that University Endowments are not associated with Athletic Budgets but it is ironic that when comparing University Endowments Pitt is a "Big Boy" and Alabama and LSU are the midgets.
University Endowments (2015):
University of Pittsburgh $3.6 Billion
University of Alabama (system) $1.24 Billion
Louisiana State University (system) $0.7 Billion
University's dismiss coaches early for lack of performance and pay millions in buy out costs rather than paying a few hundred grand to keep a good OC.
Yet many on this board talk about building a new stadium involving hundred of millions of dollars.
IRONIC!!!!!
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Of course those endowments are a lot closer to ours than we are to the top schools. And in turn we are, in relativity, much, much further away in earmarked athletic endowments than those schools are in overall endowments.
Yeah, he wasn't agreeing with you.
How are the relative sizes of university academic endowments relevant to this discussion?
As for paying for the OC, I'm confident Pitt will pay him and keep him, and you won't find me arguing for dismissing coaches or for paying buyouts.
What I don't appreciate are people who complain about Pitt being cheap, but never donate a dime.
As far as building a stadium, it's a no brainer and will happen sooner or later.
