wavering?
Ive never seen an article that has him favoring Pitt, or seeing any comments by hudson himself. Have to think this would be state penn's to lose?
I actually think Hudson is a kid PSU will take if they miss on other targets. I have seen Hudson play and he is a great player. He is small solid safety who hits like a linebacker. If he were bigger he would be #1 player in the State ahead of Sanders. He is that good. I have a hard time believing he will go to Pitt. Mckeesport kids are told Pitt is garbage. Honestly, Pitt has done nothing to disprove this notion either.
Yes sir! Garbage! That's what Pitt is, garbage! If only we had the rich tradition of Cincinnati, North Carolina, NCST, Kansas, Army, Virginia, Indiana, Rutgers, California, Temple, Iowa State, etc...
If we only had as many; Pro Football HOF's, Pro Bowlers; numerous individual honors (Outland Trophies, Maxwell Awards, Lombardi Trophies) etc... We could be as good as them!!!!
Garbage? I don't think so and neither does Narduzzi..
Yes sir! Garbage! That's what Pitt is, garbage! If only we had the rich tradition of Cincinnati, North Carolina, NCST, Kansas, Army, Virginia, Indiana, Rutgers, California, Temple, Iowa State, etc...
If we only had as many; Pro Football HOF's, Pro Bowlers; numerous individual honors (Outland Trophies, Maxwell Awards, Lombardi Trophies) etc... We could be as good as them!!!!
Garbage? I don't think so and neither does Narduzzi..
SMF 's reply to my post show 's you how much BS is on this site. He states "
During the spring recruiting season. He showed me a picture on his cell of Hudson that Hudson's dad sent him. I think he was wearing an OSU or PSU jersey (I know it wasn't Pitt or WVU) on a visit. I didn't really get into it much, the guy just said that Hudson's dad told him there's no way he was going to Pitt as if he can do better (is the way I took it) but WVU certainly isn't better. " Your friends a liar as Hudson's dad has been deceased for two years now. These are facts you should know when quoting things. If it really is a picture of him with his dad he would have been in maybe 9th grade. really ? And slick, George Smith didn't push the schools the kids followed people like Tim Brown, Brandon Short, Ricky Sayles, Darnell Warren, who had successful college careers on winning teams else where (WVU,PSU) when Pitt was average and on it's way to mediocre. They followed their football heroes who they looked up to since their time with the McKeesport Little Tigers. This has nothing to do with smith who by the way is an NC state alum and tried to get my buddy to go there in the 80's. But in any case I love all the negative posts.
SMF 's reply to my post show 's you how much BS IS on this site. He states "
During the spring recruiting season. He showed me a picture on his cell of Hudson that Hudson's dad sent him. I think he was wearing an OSU or PSU jersey (I know it wasn't Pitt or WVU) on a visit. I didn't really get into it much, the guy just said that Hudson's dad told him there's no way he was going to Pitt as if he can do better (is the way I took it) but WVU certainly isn't better. " Your friends a liar as Hudson's dad has been deceased for two years now. These are facts you should know when quoting things. If it really is a picture of him with his dad he would have been in maybe 9th grade. really ? And slick, George Smith didn't push the schools the kids followed people like Tim Brown, Brandon Short, Ricky Sayles, Darnell Warren, who had successful college careers on winning teams else where (WVU,PSU) when Pitt was average and on it's way to mediocre. They followed their football heroes who they looked up to since their time with the McKeesport Little Tigers. This has nothing to do with smith who by the way is an NC state alum and tried to get my buddy to go there in the 80's. But in any case I love all the negative posts.
I'm late to the game here, but I went to McKeesport and had George Smith as a gym teacher. I didn't play football (basketball for me), but many of the football players also played hoops, and I was good friends with them. They all said Smith loved PSU and WVU and tried to steer as many of his D1-type guys there as possible. One even told me that Smith refused to make a highlight tape (this was the pre-Internet late 80's) for a guy who wanted to go to Pitt. Now admittedly, this is all second-hand info from almost 25 years ago, but that's what I was told. I don't know where Smith's beef with Pitt came from, and I don't know that he still feels the same way, but take that for what it's worth.
Rumor is the PSU staff talked him out of committing and asked him to wait.
SMF now your just back pedaling to cover your lie. FYI his sister plays softball for me and I spoke to her this weekend . She said he is not close to making a decision and is not saying who is in the lead. The only thing she says is he has a lot of offers and Pitt,PSU , and WVU included but Wisconsin was never mentioned so don't know where that came from. Or maybe I should ask his step dad (which she his stated he doesn't have), or uncle or whoever. lol. Maybe people should stop lying , gossiping or whatever to have something to say and then try to blow it off like your wrong for calling them on it. I know ill catch if for saying that but oh well. And no kids go anywhere until they do. How many Clairton kids went to Pitt before this last group, or Central Valley kids to Alabama before Foster ? Got to start somewhere. Again that statement from you and others are matter of opinion, not fact and is irrelevant to the post, which was Hudson was making a decision. This post should have never happened, it and most of the responses are fables.
The adults always seem to have something against Pitt for some reasonI talked to my friend again. He's friends with Hudson's uncle (the guy I thought was his dad). I guess his uncle plays a father-figure role. Here's what I was told:
- Hudson told my friend he likes Pitt but didnt necessarily say they are his "leader."
- Hudson's uncle doesn't like Pitt at all and wants him to go "big-time." He loves PSU and OSU.
- Hudson's uncle did say he will let Hudson make his own decision.
This sounds like so many local recruiting battles. The adults always seem to have something against Pitt for some reason and try to steer their kids to PSU or other schools.
The adults always seem to have something against Pitt for some reason
30 years of bad football, with an ever dwindling fan base will do that to the local population. A few years of sustained winning would change it entirely.
It's all about the right head coach. Hopefully we found him.
OK but tell me what has Penn State done in the last 20 years? Not a whole lot more than Pitt.
what has to be "done" to be considered successful?....win championships?
\what has to be "done" to be considered successful?....win championships?
Tell me what you've done since 2000? Won a co-championship twice? Geez, we've done that.[/QUOTE
co-championships...that's funny.. ask any OSU fan if they "co-won" 05 or 08....they wouldn't because that'd be silly....since they lost to us those years.
allow me to shorten the time line a bit.......how bout the last 10 years....we've won 2 Big Ten championships and beat OSU 3 times. conversely, Michigan....has 0 Big Ten championships & beat OSU once. heck....we even got bowl victories over LSU & Florida State in that timeline along w/several others........sooooo, we've done something, no?
when Michigan goes 5-7....is Pitt better than Michigan?
and don't freak out over this....I'm asking sincere questions here. I'm referring to your comments on Hudson's Uncle stating he wants his nephew to go somewhere "Big Time"
Why do I have to ask an OSU fan about their co-championship? I can google the standings from those seasons and see you with the same record as them. You went to the Rose on a tiebreaker. That's not a bad thing but its not an outright title. Co-titles, which we both have, are better than no titles.
Bowl victories? Yea, I really care about exhibition wins. Next.
Did you actually brag about beating OSU 3 times in 10 years, with one of those wins coming against a Luke Fickell-led team (the worst OSU team in decades).
Not understanding the 5-7 Michigan question? A 5-7 Michigan team sucks. Are they better than Pitt? In what season are you talking about?
Finally, no, in the last 15 years, you havent done anything. 2 co-titles, a bunch of losing seasons, tons of wins over Illinois, NW, and Temple and the world's worst-ever sports-related coverup.
You certainly arent better Pitt in any way, shape or form.
If you REALLY wanna compare the last 10 years of your program... you should compare with the dark ages in Europe. As I said, no football fanbase in the country would swap your last 10 years with theirs... none!
Now, stop having self-esteem issues, and get off our board and back to your hole.
Amazing some Penn State Fans won't admit they have the same type of challenges that Pitt does, if not greater. Sure, they have the Program Resources to meet those challenges, but so does Ohio State, Michigan, and MSU today and Maryland's Edsall is doing good in recruiting and Franklin has bigger mountains to climb than Pitt's Coach Pat!You certainly arent better Pitt in any way, shape or form.
If you REALLY wanna compare the last 10 years of your program... you should compare with the dark ages in Europe. As I said, no football fanbase in the country would swap your last 10 years with theirs... none!
Now, stop having self-esteem issues, and get off our board and back to your hole.
I talked to my friend again. He's friends with Hudson's uncle (the guy I thought was his dad). I guess his uncle plays a father-figure role. Here's what I was told:
- Hudson told my friend he likes Pitt but didnt necessarily say they are his "leader."
- Hudson's uncle doesn't like Pitt at all and wants him to go "big-time." He loves PSU and OSU.
- Hudson's uncle did say he will let Hudson make his own decision.
This sounds like so many local recruiting battles. The adults always seem to have something against Pitt for some reason and try to steer their kids to PSU or other schools.
self esteem issues?....gosh, with your harsh response, I'd figure your accusation of me would be of over-confidence.
that being said, and to be fair....I shouldn't have said the term "better"....that's not what I meant.....I meant, more "big time"...referring to the Hudson's uncle comment. to me, that's a big difference. not that you agree with that either, but I definitely didn't mean "better".
It's a tough cycle. The local vibe against Pitt ... sports and university ... is very real. Pitt contributes to that with its own half-assed management of its sports, and I've long argued that putting a consistent winner on the field and court would change attitudes by a 180. But even without, I have still always been baffled by the antipathy to Pitt. Pitt clearly is a savior (not the only, but a huge one) to the region after the abandonment by heavy industry. People don't realize how far sunken this city could have gone without Pitt, CMU, UPMC. It would be East Detroit. Maybe worse. And minorities would have especially suffered. Pittsburgh is far, far from perfect. But It takes news stories like recent days (Ferguson) to see how really bad rave relations can be in other areas.
Yet it's often the dad or uncle of a top local minority player who seems the most vocal against Pitt. Sometimes there seem 'extenuating' circumstances (like with the Henry family last year, apparently not happy with a lack of payola) but more often than not, it seems like some petty (or imaginary), yet quite personal dislike. Do they think their lot in life here would be BETTER without Pitt?
Come on... you come onto a Pitt message board to talk smack... it reeks of self esteem issues. Especially when no one here is even mentioning wanting Hudson or saying we are going to get the recruit. I think every poster on here pretty much said the opposite. You are just here trying to make him look good in case you guys get him. Who cares? You are landing many recruits with your unethical coach that gets coeds as prostitutes and covers up the rape after and openly says he hires coaches that have hot wives. You guys should be ashamed, and this happened AFTER your own horrendous crime. Dont you even care that you hold football higher than morals?
As for the 'big time" comment... I do believe your school is the only one that thinks you are big time. Again... I dont consider penn state bigger time than the University of Pittsburgh is. At any rate... discussing what some poster heard from an uncle is completely pointless.