Dude come on. Everyone has those six games or more. Vanderbilt lost a game but like 70. Nc state got blown out three times by Clemson. Rutgers is 9-4 on q3 and four games which is pretty awful.
I know we feel safe but
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Lots of brackets coming into Bracketmatrix today without Pitt on them. I don’t know what happened overnight, but it’s starting to feel like the 2020 presidential election.
And they should be in.
Teams with .500 or less league records should not be.
Teams with more than a dozen losses should not.
I agree that a losing conference record should be a disqualifier
November basketball would be unwatchable if they enacted the dozen loss thing. I'm fine with more than that not being inhibiting but you might be onto something with the sub .500 conference record.
Even in the heyday of the Big East, there was an assumption of having to win half of your conference games.
I live in Dayton and love the UD Flyers, just not as much as I love Pitt. Feeling conflicted, I want UD to win this game, they need it to get in, but I fear if they win, it could knock Pitt out. Btw, I am drinking and watching the game within walking distance of the UD campus, surrounded by Flyer fans.
And play some freakin' defense for once this year! I know some will say we've played good defense, but it's only in short spurts. The talent and footspeed aren't there to play good defense for a whole game.
Look, I think it’s pretty clear it’s about a 65-70 percent chance we get in. This means it’s not at all a shock if we don’t make it and I doubt any talking head will make a stink if we don’t.
Most of the schools in our position have an angle they can argue to say they should be ahead of someone else.
Beat Notre Dame last week and this isn’t a discussion. We made our bed. Great season regardless.
If we all were honest with ourselves I think we’d agree Clemson and NC State right now probably have a better chance than us to win a couple games. We are fading badly. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t get in but I think it’s the honest truth of where this team is.
Most of the schools in our position have an angle they can argue to say they should be ahead of someone else.
Beat Notre Dame last week and this isn’t a discussion. We made our bed. Great season regardless.
If we all were honest with ourselves I think we’d agree Clemson and NC State right now probably have a better chance than us to win a couple games. We are fading badly. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t get in but I think it’s the honest truth of where this team is.
A loss by 1 should count the same as a loss by 50. A loss is a loss
All conferences are not created equally. The worst team in the Big 12 beat Alabama by 25.
Hope you didn't hurt yourself falling off the bandwagon. Then again, I doubt you were ever actually on it.
I’m pretty sure conference record isn’t considered at all in the selections. At least that’s been the ‘formal’ statement on record for a good few years in a row now.
It isn't considered. That said, taking an 8-10 SEC team over a 14-6 ACC team is crazy
Final bracketmatrix tally with 83 ballots:
Pitt 51 (61%)
Nevada 26
Ok State 23
Next lowest for a team in the field is 74, so Pitt is the last team in based on this.
Pitt 51 (61%)
Nevada 26
Ok State 23
Next lowest for a team in the field is 74, so Pitt is the last team in based on this.
How selections are made now is total batshit crazy. That being said, I think realistically Pitt has a 50% chance of getting in without it being Dayton. With Dayton, maybe 60% chance.
No team, no matter what conference it is, should get in with a losing record in their conference. Period.
And they have to win a game to have the right to play 19-13 Iowa State. So, what makes 13 game losers, less than 20-win Iowa State a 6 seed, SMF explain?
Doesn't it balance out, they blew out a few teams themselves, why doesn't that get EQUAL weight to being blown out?
Committee is a bunch of humans with bias. They cobble together a field with many and various different biases and wish lists from the networks, sponsors, host cities and advertisers. There are various BS numeric things like NET that they can use to justify the most glaring contradictions.
Pitt had negative bias from the bad start to the season. Positive bias for January and February. Then created more negative bias for itself by stinking, blowing, and gagging in the final weeks. If there’s any consolation, the hideous ND loss, the near gag job to a bad GT team, and the awful Duke blowout probably almost knocked us all the way out. Heck, that otherwise innocuous Syracuse win might have saved our bacon, because there are so many media fools with ties to Syracuse, so an impressive win over them still has more cache then it might have, given Cuse was a gibrone team this year.
It is what it is, go out and play and prove them wrong. Otherwise they’ll prove them right. Up to them if the former matters more to the guys than the latter doesn’t matter to them at all.
Even at our peak, Pitt was always under seeded.
Pitt just does not carry the same cache as certain other schools
This year, that was still working against Pitt, then add a national under valuing of our league.
