Is Syracuse passing us as a program?

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Syracuse is a tough place to win. It’s not a great location and the Dome is a dump. Brown was a great hire but as others have said, he’ll get poached before he builds anything sustainable. We’re not without issues, but zero chance Syracuse passes us on an overall level

Not so fast, my friend! Let me take you back to a 15-year period from 1987 to 2001. The Orange Juice was flowin' like wine, and the beautiful women were instinctively flocking like the salmon of Capistrano.

During that time, Syracuse amassed a record of 127-49-4, an average season record of 8.47 - 3.27 - .27.

Some say you can still hear the ghosts of success lingering in the rafters of the dome. Does Fran (a medium to Jim) Brown have what it takes to resurrect these faint voices and bring Syracuse back to life? Well, if you add the first three numeric digits together in 2024, you get *gulp* 44. Could that be a sign? Is Kyle McCord the next Donovan McNab? The letter casing would seem to suggest so. Has Steelers' great Anthony Smith infiltrated Pitt intelligence during his stint in Pittsburgh and divulged all secrets? Time will tell.

 

[NTOP]

I hope I'm just being paranoid. I just don't think we should take things like always being better than Syracuse and Georgia Tech for granted. It's not like we are just inherently better than those programs, even if it's felt like it lately. Our places in the hierarchy can flip at any time.

Heck, Many Diaz has a pretty good class going for Duke right now... though I think Duke is disadvantaged enough that taking being better than them in football for granted is okay to do.

All in all, it feels like Pitt football really needs something to galvanize it right now.

A couple wins will get it started. Beat wvu & Cinci, not just the rentals.

 

[Schaef60]

Who cares,If they both went away would anyone notice?

 

[pittzap]

Syracuse is a tough place to win. It’s not a great location and the Dome is a dump. Brown was a great hire but as others have said, he’ll get poached before he builds anything sustainable. We’re not without issues, but zero chance Syracuse passes us on an overall level

A great hire? He hasn’t coached a game yet, has never been a head coach, and only has had one year at a coordinator level when he was co-defensive coordinator at Temple for one season. Wow, a new, young coach recruiting pretty well his first season; and they paid the QB to go there. . How many times have we seen that?

 

[JJ COLLINS]

Obviously they have to do it first, and I get that. But they beat us last year. They brought in better transfers than us. They had a better recruiting class than us last year. They have a better recruiting class than us this year.

As one of our fixed annual opponents (if they're even doing that anymore with the addition of three new teams), it would really suck to see them get back on track. That's one we've been able to take for granted - albeit usually not without a good fight - for some time now.

I think we need to root hard for this thing to sputter out early, because Fran Brown has some momentum going right now.

Ya, he is undefeated as a head coach at Syracuse. They gave won so many games lately their program is strong.

 

[thebadby2]

Syracuse is a tough place to win. It’s not a great location and the Dome is a dump. Brown was a great hire but as others have said, he’ll get poached before he builds anything sustainable. We’re not without issues, but zero chance Syracuse passes us on an overall level

I honestly think Cuse football has been dying a slow death since they built that dome.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

A great hire? He hasn’t coached a game yet, has never been a head coach, and only has had one year at a coordinator level when he was co-defensive coordinator at Temple for one season. Wow, a new, young coach recruiting pretty well his first season; and they paid the QB to go there. . How many times have we seen that?

One time, and one time only. You can't spell Syracuse without "SEC."

And you can't spell Orange without "organ."

Could Fran Brown be playing his way into the Big 2?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Not so fast, my friend! Let me take you back to a 15-year period from 1987 to 2001. The Orange Juice was flowin' like wine, and the beautiful women were instinctively flocking like the salmon of Capistrano.

During that time, Syracuse amassed a record of 127-49-4, an average season record of 8.47 - 3.27 - .27.

Some say you can still hear the ghosts of success lingering in the rafters of the dome. Does Fran (a medium to Jim) Brown have what it takes to resurrect these faint voices and bring Syracuse back to life? Well, if you add the first three numeric digits together in 2024, you get *gulp* 44. Could that be a sign? Is Kyle McCord the next Donovan McNab? The letter casing would seem to suggest so. Has Steelers' great Anthony Smith infiltrated Pitt intelligence during his stint in Pittsburgh and divulged all secrets? Time will tell.

I'd like to see a deep dive into why they were so good then. Even when Pitt was good during those years, I remember thinking like "oh crap, we have to play Syracuse next."

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

I'd like to see a deep dive into why they were so good then. Even when Pitt was good during those years, I remember thinking like "oh crap, we have to play Syracuse next."

Their history of success is admittedly more scanty than I would have guessed. I got into college football in the 90's when playing Syracuse was tough, so I just assumed they were a decent/good program until the early 2000's. But yeah - no. That period was indeed an outlier for them.

 

[thebadby2]

I'd like to see a deep dive into why they were so good then. Even when Pitt was good during those years, I remember thinking like "oh crap, we have to play Syracuse next."

Don't need to dive too deep--and they weren't "so good"--they were pretty good:

1. Good coaches-MacPherson and Pasqualoni
2. Good QBs--Donny McPherson and McNabb, even Marvin Graves
3. Relatively light schedule in many of those years--e.g., one ranked opponent in 11-0 regular season (#10 PSU), one in 1988 reg, season (blowout loss to #4 WVU).
4. Solid iverall team talent and a number of elite individual talents at positions other than QB: Moose Johnston, Marvin Harrison, Freeney, Q Ismail, etc.

 

[pittzap]

One time, and one time only. You can't spell Syracuse without "SEC."

And you can't spell Orange without "organ."

Could Fran Brown be playing his way into the Big 2?

He’s clearly “Paul Chrysting” his time at Cuse to get experience and will move on as quickly as possible, if a Big 2 head coaching job becomes available.

 

[thebadby2]

He’s clearly “Paul Chrysting” his time at Cuse to get experience and will move on as quickly as possible, if a Big 2 head coaching job becomes available.

That will only work if he actually accomplishes something positive there. I don’t like his odds.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

You have solidified your spot as a finalist for Pantherlair 2024 Poster of the Year.

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

Makes sense as we clearly passed them on the basketball court. We are Hoop School. Mouth breathing cretins think differently but they are wrong.

 

[PittMan2003]

Just go follow penn state clown. We completely destroyed Syracuse. They still have a long ways to go.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Just go follow penn state clown. We completely destroyed Syracuse. They still have a long ways to go.

 

[PittMan2003]

Yeah I guess you’re happy we lost and Syracuse won today. Congrats bro. Big day for you. And congrats on your boys getting to big ten title game too.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Yeah I guess you’re happy we lost and Syracuse won today. Congrats bro. Big day for you.

Lol. Okay, tough guy.

 

[PittPharm2002]

No.

They have a real head coach

 

[PittMan2003]

Lol. Okay, tough guy.

Not being tough. Just go ahead and follow another team and quit acting like you’re a Pitt fan. It will save you time in the long run.

 

[PittPharm2002]

Not being tough. Just go ahead and follow another team and quit acting like you’re a Pitt fan. It will save you time in the long run.

Programs are hiring up and climbers for coaches
They are passing us .
We are stagnant

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

Programs are hiring up and climbers for coaches
They are passing us .
We are stagnant

Bell was supposedly an up and climbing coach.

 

[PittMan2003]

Programs are hiring up and climbers for coaches
They are passing us .
We are stagnant

I can’t say that Narduzzi is thriving either and I am questioning him as well. But one 8-4 year from Syracuse doesn’t mean they are passing us. Narduzzi was 8-4 his first two years with better wins than cuse year. Let’s see if this guy can do it regularly. Narduzzi who is stagnant absolutely destroyed Syracuse this year before things went to shit.

Programs are hiring up and climbers for coaches
They are passing us .
We are stagnant

 

[PittPharm2002]

Bell was supposedly an up and climbing coach.

As an OC and his recruiting consists of transfers from
WCU .

Not a winning combination with Pat who can’t recruit anymore

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

As an OC and his recruiting consists of transfers from
WCU .

Not a winning combination with Pat who can’t recruit anymore

Hence the word supposedly

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

I can’t say that Narduzzi is thriving either and I am questioning him as well. But one 8-4 year from Syracuse doesn’t mean they are passing us. Narduzzi was 8-4 his first two years with better wins than cuse year. Let’s see if this guy can do it regularly. Narduzzi who is stagnant absolutely destroyed Syracuse this year before things went to shit.

They're 9-3.

 

[PittPharm2002]

I can’t say that Narduzzi is thriving either and I am questioning him as well. But one 8-4 year from Syracuse doesn’t mean they are passing us. Narduzzi was 8-4 his first two years with better wins than cuse year. Let’s see if this guy can do it regularly. Narduzzi who is stagnant absolutely destroyed Syracuse this year before things went to shit.

Cuse beat a top 10 team to close their season .

We’ve beat nobody good and dropped 5 straight - blown out in 2 of them

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Cuse beat a top 10 team to close their season .

We’ve beat nobody good and dropped 5 straight - blown out in 2 of them

They also have a better incoming recruiting class than us and will almost certainly best us in the transfer portal again.

Hey, it might not all come to fruition. But it's looking like we're trending toward bottom feeder status in the ACC.

 

[PittMan2003]

They're 9-3.

Oh yeah. Maybe you should root for them then?

 

[noelr]

They also have a better incoming recruiting class than us and will almost certainly best us in the transfer portal again.

Hey, it might not all come to fruition. But it's looking like we're trending toward bottom feeder status in the ACC.

yep. i think we are looking at majors 2 territory sadly. hope not. but smu cuse ga tech and ville gaining traction.

 

[PittMan2003]

yep. i think we are looking at majors 2 territory sadly. hope not. but smu cuse ga tech and ville gaining traction.

Yeah smu and Louisville should usually be better than us given their advantages. Georgia tech as well. We will see if cuse can keep it up. They had a nice season but played no non power 5 in the non conference and missed Clemson, smu, and Louisville.

 

[TD_6082]

yep. i think we are looking at majors 2 territory sadly. hope not. but smu cuse ga tech and ville gaining traction.

Seriously? SMU, Ga Tech, and Louisville have already left Pitt in the dust. For the most part, you get what you pay for. Those schools will have better rosters going forward unless something changes.

Kudos to Watson Brown. He was all over this game. Wednesday, he commented that Miami was the most likely team to lose that was included in the latest playoff projection. He predicted a Cuse win.

 

[noelr]

Seriously? SMU, Ga Tech, and Louisville have already left Pitt in the dust. For the most part, you get what you pay for. Those schools will have better rosters going forward unless something changes.

Kudos to Watson Brown. He was all over this game. Wednesday, he commented that Miami was the most likely team to lose that was included in the latest playoff projection. He predicted a Cuse win.

shirley you can't be serious?

 

[TD_6082]

shirley you can't be serious?

Haha. Totally serious.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

 

[jtownknowitall]

Yeah I guess you’re happy we lost and Syracuse won today. Congrats bro. Big day for you. And congrats on your boys getting to big ten title game too.

Of all the Jan Bradys in the world you might be the Jannest.

 

[pierre93]

Of all the Jan Bradys in the world you might be the Jannest.

What do u add to this board besides responding with laughing emojis and having a Jan Brady fetish? Go shine Jerry's knob u sicko

 

[jtownknowitall]

What do u add to this board besides responding with laughing emojis and having a Jan Brady fetish? Go shine Jerry's knob u sicko

Shut up, Oliver.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

What do u add to this board besides responding with laughing emojis and having a Jan Brady fetish? Go shine Jerry's knob u sicko

You have to forgive him. He was probably one of Jerry’s numerous victims through Second Mile. They were only allowed to watch Brady Bunch reruns.