isn't it fitting that Kenny gets a super bowl ring and the Steelers get a super toilet flush!
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Kenny had a little more to do with winning that Super Bowl than I did. But not much more...
We really needed another thread on this. Thanks for your contributions to the board. That was very provocative.
Dead to me for quitting on his PITT teammates....
It was a loyalty play to Whipple, who was nice enough to take enough time out of his Pitt-funded Nebraska recruiting endeavors to convince Kenny not to play.
That said, I don't hold that against him. As you alluded to, bowl games are meaningless.
It’d be one thing if the posts and comments were genuine praise for Kenny, but they aren’t, they’re digs at the Steelers.
If they were genuine then you’d see them congratulating Avante as well.
Yeah but he has a ring while Watt, Hayward and the rest of the D will not as long as they stay in Pittsburgh. The QB play since Ben the rapist retired has been average to below. However come playoff time the so called big time D has failed horribly.
But it worked out fine for KP. When the season is over, these type of decisions become serous business. Can’t chance getting hurt. It is probably the new normal for elite players, in meaningless exhibition games.
This isn't going anywhere. In 15 years, you'll be hearing about this when someone is trying to hawk Kenny's ring on Pawn Stars. Rick will call in his friend Ron Cook to authenticate the story and Ron will tell how Kenny actually quit on the Steelers. Nonthedless, Rick will offer $150 for the ring even know the seller (who's wearing a Pitt hoodie) knows what he got and won't budge from $3000.
Yeah I’m getting tired of hearing all these Kenny supporters saying all the time that Kenny was a big part of that team and if not for him the Eagles would have never won the Lombardi.
Here’s the thing about Kenny quitting on the Steelers…I don’t know what to think. Kenny has a little “diva” in him. For example, when still here and when asked whether he learned anything while sitting on the sidelines, he gave a shitty response instead of the mature and professional response.
But anyways, the day after the Super Bowl, Jason Mackey hosted the evening show on The Fan, and the theme of the show was Kenny. Mackey took dozens of calls. Some callers defended Kenny and some ripped Kenny. He challenged any caller who said Kenny stinks. He asked them how do they know that because of the talent and coaching that was here. In my eyes Mackey had one of the more open minded and fair takes when it comes to Kenny. It was not much dissimilar to mine. However one thing that Mackay kept saying is that Kenny quit on the Steelers. He was stating it as fact, based on the reporting that his colleagues at the PG wrote about. I just don’t trust any reporting anywhere, especially the reporting of Dulac. None of us were in the room and we don’t know what happened. Do we really know that Kenny quit on his team? And I’m not talking about the Peach Bowl either. Every one of us would have done the same thing and even those who are mad about it deep down know it’s true.
He asked for a trade after Wilson came aboard. No one can dispute that.
Is asking for a trade the same as quitting on your team? That’s the debate.
If that’s the measure of quitting, there’s lots of quitters out there with Super Bowl rings.
The best thing to happen to Kenny was getting out of Pittsburgh!
Well you guess the discussion should be that his teammates quit on him, given that the leaders of the team went out and actively recruited, wined and dined Russ and then ownership and Coach T quit on him too.
Ummm the man not played 3/4 of one game and started another to clinch the division including serving as scout QB an important role in the NFL. Several defensive players are on video saying how much better Kenny made them this year. He did the job he was hired for wonderfully and EARNED his ring. I don't know why it is so hard for Yinzers to admit. The man wasn't hired to be the starter. He had about as much of an impact as a back up can have.
This brings up the chicken vs the egg debate. I would argue bringing in an aging Super Bowl champ who everyone with a brain knows wouldn't go anywhere he wasn't assured to start; it would have bern career suicide. Essentially the Steelers quit on Kenny. Steelers get a fresh start at QB, Kenny gets a ring and parade. I call it a tie.
Obviously I was joking, but that is some hilariously meticulous wording.
He played 3/4 of a game they lost and like 2/3 (if that) of the game they won (and, as it turns out, they would have won the division anyway). He threw less passes this past season than Tanner McKee.
Did anybody credit Maddox and Batch with the Steeles winning that '06 Super Bowl? They started four games between them.
What about the '09 Super Bowl: what percentage of people on this board could name the backups that season? Yeah, we won that because the way Leftwich ran the scout team! GTFOOH. Had nothing to do with that ridiculous defense squeezing the life out of the Ravens, Harrison making the greatest play in Super Bowl history, or Ben leading one of the greatest drives in Super Bowl history. No, Dennis Dixon did a good Steve McNair impersonation one practice in October!
That's why this gets annoying as shit. On this message board, and this message board alone, are people gloating about a backup QB winning a Super Bowl. Would they have won it without him? Yes. Yes they would have. And if you gave Pickett some truth serum I'm pretty sure he'd tell you he'd have rather been a starter just about anywhere than a backup on even a championship team.
Strawman arguments are fun aren't they 😁. You are arguing an argument I never made. I said he did his job as a back up and did it well therefore they people trying to diminish his role were misguided a back ups role is be ready when called on he did in both instances and they should have won both games if not for a few untimely drops and the defense giving up 5 passing touchdowns to Daniels. As I stated Kenny EARNED his ring no matter how insignificant people try to make him. When your goal is to devalue someone you will use whatever rationale seem to fit. I guess the bigger issue is the Steelers sucked with him and they sucked without him so I guess according to the math he isn't the reason they sucked.
Yep. That’s a bingo. Most of this Kenny talk is rooted in anti steeler sentiment. And I’m here to consume all of it!
Ive said it a hundred times. Both sides are better off without the other.
If his teammates quit on him like you said, what’s that tell you about Kenny?
Pickens and Dionte were ecstatic when Mason game in the year before. Both publicly said as much. Again, that’s quite an indictment.
The coaches didn’t believe he earned the right to be the anointed starter without competition. I agree.
Karma for what? The fact he wanted out?
He wasn’t good enough. The Steelers upgraded the room like any business would. He didn’t want to be in that situation. They obliged.
Let’s not turn this into him being “done wrong”. The trade market set by the rest of the league basically said their starters were better. So he went to be a backup somewhere. He hit on the roulette table and got a ring. So good for him.
That’s it.
Well I’m glad you asked. His teammates (Minkah, TJ and Cam) quit on him because they aren’t the brightest as you know. They saw an unproductive offense and thought a HOF/all pro vet QB could come in and be the savior. Turns out, maybe they should have just worried about their side of the ball huh? And the other teammates, Pickens and Dionte? I mean, I don’t even know where to begin. One was getting into fist fights with Mitch, and the other couldn’t understand that when he didn’t run routes because he wasn’t getting the ball, he wasn’t helping himself, his QB, and his offense.
Absolutely. Like a 28-6 TD/INT ratio to whatever it was the year before. Mason might have made that respectable at the end, but we’ve seen enough of Mason to know it was lightening in a bottle.
Sitting at 10-3 with a 7 game stretch of 30 ppg.
Schedule got brutal, defense started sucking, GP got hurt. And yes, Russ took wayyy too many sacks to compete with top teams. But the play in aggregate was considerably better than the previous two years.
*edit TD/INT was 13-9 in ‘23. Put that in there for comparison sake…and…you know.
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That’s a ridiculous comment. TJ in 2023 was not only at a defensive POY level, but one of the best seasons of the last decade. Cam is and always was a warrior. They aren’t the reason KP was meh. They are actually a reason he had a chance to pull out a lot of games.
We all like Kenny. But if this was some crazy situation holding down a top tier NFL QB, why didn’t other teams jump at it? It’s because of what he put on tape. He wasn’t good overall.
I have no doubt he’ll have a second act and might even have an extended period as a starter. But that’s who he was right now at the NFL level, and that is why they needed to add to the room.
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Have it your way. Lol. The result was the same. A 1st round ass beating. They would have gone no where had the schedule not been a cakewalk early. When they played real football teams, they were not even remotely competitive. There was no upgrade.
Nothing ridiculous about it at all.
Same conservative offense
Same Underachieving and underperforming defense.
Same 10-7 record
Same first round blowout loss in the playoffs.
Everything sucks about this team from the top to the bottom.
Defend your Steelers though. I won’t.
Damn right! Their stuck in a shitty infinite loop of 500+ football with no end in site. Tomlin won't allow it to tank so they can start to build something. His streak must be more important than winning anything that matters. They are a lost cause!
Mostly because they haven’t had a top 10 QB. The last 3 playoff losses were taking a QB playing their very last game with the team on the road playing a Top 5 QB. That’s not a good recipe.
So I don’t blame them for trying to upgrade at QB. Otherwise people say “dat Tawmlin don’t care as long as he is 9-8”.
If you want to say Russ caved at the end, I can’t argue. But as recently as December 15th they were sitting there at 10-3 with good QB play. The QB numbers overall showed a significant upgrade. The defense really sucked and contributed to the downfall too. So sure - record wound up the same. But people using that to say the play was the same as KP are just trolling or aren’t watching.
Also, Very few NFL teams try to “tank”. They just wind up not being good and then draft high.
Tomlin deserves some blame, but man he can’t win. Can you imagine the grief he would get if they actually did go 4-13?
You’re taking a subset of a season to prove a point. It doesn’t work that way. Those last 5 games count in the record book too. And they added up to a 10-8 record. The offense was just as meh as it has been in spite of having a better oline and better OC than the year before…and the playoff loss was due to the defense doing what they always do, fall behind bigly before any seats in the building are warm.
Yeah, Russ and the team. fell apart at the end (injuries, the schedule, etc.), but he also did things that Kenny couldn't have done in his wildest dreams. I'm sorry, but Pickett could have never had that game he had in Cincinnati, for instance.
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