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Losing the fans and the team

First TD 65 yards given up
Second td 95 yards
3rd TD 66 yards
For fuller perspective .
But tell me how exhausted they were for playing slightly more than half the minutes
They’re not exhausted, they’re just BAD. Unacceptable in year 9 from a supposed defensive “Guru”. Oh and don’t even get me started on Frank Flintstone and his half picked QB. Worst OC / QB combo in Pitt history. Just atrocious yet nothing ever changes. Maybe a change at the top is in order? 🤔
 
Dude literally argued with me last year that cignetti runs the same offense as Alabama. Honestly pretty amazing. He has also said repeatedly scheme doesn’t matter which at the college level is particularly absurd
Consider the source smh
 
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They’re not exhausted, they’re just BAD. Unacceptable in year 9 from a supposed defensive “Guru”. Oh and don’t even get me started on Frank Flintstone and his half picked QB. Worst OC / QB combo in Pitt history. Just atrocious yet nothing ever changes. Maybe a change at the top is in order? 🤔
I cringed when we brought Flintstone back. Then he has the nerve to bring in his wonderboy qb from BC. That was a recipe for disaster.
 
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I said after the Wvu game that Duzz continued support of Jerk risks losing the team. Every other position has to produce or they sit. When you claim it’s a completion every week and give the guy playing the most important position on the team a pass for putrid play the line about putting the best players in the field rings hollow

Until the VT game I thought the D was Ok. They didn’t show up at all against VT. While I think the talent is way overrated they are good enough to shut down a crappy offense like VT. In the second half they simply pitched the ball left and right and repeatedly got to the corner. They raved about the DL prospects and the DBs and they’ve been average at best.

Really need to hope Sparty has a brain fart and hires him away because Pitt isn’t firing him for at least another year. This program is a dumpster fire and it’s only going to get worse unless Duzz suddenly gets his head out of his behind
“ you can’t play the backups. They are worse than the starter”

“What evidence have you seen to teach this conclusion?”

“Veilleux fumbled that one jet sweep in the UNC game he had no prep for. Clearly her sucks”

“Has Jurkovec fumbled or thrown interceptions?”

“Well yea, far too many times now to count actually”

“How much prep did he have?”

“Hmm, I don’t know, I don’t follow this minutia, why don’t you tell ME, brainiac? A few weeks?”

“Seven months”

“Ok, that’s one gotcha. BUT…Yarnell didn’t look great in that WMU game and he had the whole week to prepare!”

“All right. Well, he’s not the first backup, for one. Second, he was a pure freshman. Third, didn’t he look at least as good as Jurkovec did in his first game?”

“Well, yes “

“And that game was against…?”

“Wilford, or something”

“Wofford actually. And having watched those games, as bad as WMU surely is, how much worse would you say Wofford is?”

“Well … about infinity worse actually. It was one of the worst teams that ever stepped foot into Acrisure and that includes A class high school teams and frisbee dog squads.”

“So after all this you still think Jurkovec is clearly the guy that they should go with”

“Yes because the coaches make these decisions and they know much more than us”

“The coaches that called for play action on fourth and twenty last week?”

“My pumpkin spice latte is done, I have to go”
 
Dude literally argued with me last year that cignetti runs the same offense as Alabama. Honestly pretty amazing. He has also said repeatedly scheme doesn’t matter which at the college level is particularly absurd
They both run a pro-style multiple offense.

Scheme always matters & style of play has to fit your personel. What USC runs is a lot different than what Michigan, UGA, or PSU runs.

All those teams are going to have really good years.
 
“ you can’t play the backups. They are worse than the starter”

“What evidence have you seen to teach this conclusion?”

“Veilleux fumbled that one jet sweep in the UNC game he had no prep for. Clearly her sucks”

“Has Jurkovec fumbled or thrown interceptions?”

“Well yea, far too many times now to count actually”

“How much prep did he have?”

“Hmm, I don’t know, I don’t follow this minutia, why don’t you tell ME, brainiac? A few weeks?”

“Seven months”

“Ok, that’s one gotcha. BUT…Yarnell didn’t look great in that WMU game and he had the whole week to prepare!”

“All right. Well, he’s not the first backup, for one. Second, he was a pure freshman. Third, didn’t he look at least as good as Jurkovec did in his first game?”

“Well, yes “

“And that game was against…?”

“Wilford, or something”

“Wofford actually. And having watched those games, as bad as WMU surely is, how much worse would you say Wofford is?”

“Well … about infinity worse actually. It was one of the worst teams that ever stepped foot into Acrisure and that includes A class high school teams and frisbee dog squads.”

“So after all this you still think Jurkovec is clearly the guy that they should go with”

“Yes because the coaches make these decisions and they know much more than us”

“The coaches that called for play action on fourth and twenty last week?”

“My pumpkin spice latte is done, I have to go”
Did you miss V’s 2 interceptions?
 
If you were a player on this team and saw there were no consequences for being terrible at quarterbacking would you still be invested?
 
Did you miss V’s 2 interceptions?
I didn’t miss dull witted, disaster prone, abandon-all-hope Jurkovec when he was not in there .

Vellieux: might not be good. Possibly could be good.

Jurkovec: obviously not good. Can never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever be good, never ever, never ever ever ever
 
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I didn’t miss dull witted, disaster prone, abandon-all-hope Jurkovec when he was not in there .

Vellieux: might not be good. Possibly could be good.

Jurkovec: obviously not good. Can never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever be good, never ever, never ever ever ever
It remains true that you ignored 2 interceptions when quoting stats.
 
It is one thing to be critical of the results. It’s a whole other level of immaturity to think the coaches have better options to work with at this time but are holding out.
 
BTW, I don't know if anyone noticed this or not but an ACC team that brought in a transfer quarterback from another ACC team announced today that they were benching that quarterback because he wasn't playing well.

Even though that guy was completing 58.8% of his passes compared to Bookovec's 50.9% and he had run for 286 yards compared to Bookovec's 59.
 
BTW, I don't know if anyone noticed this or not but an ACC team that brought in a transfer quarterback from another ACC team announced today that they were benching that quarterback because he wasn't playing well.

Even though that guy was completing 58.8% of his passes compared to Bookovec's 50.9% and he had run for 286 yards compared to Bookovec's 59.

Brennan Armstrong's regression has been something
 
It remains more true that Jurkovec is the suckiest suck who ever sucked and needs to be benched
Does it remain true that he is worse than CV? The stats, especially those you ignored, may indicate otherwise.

You seem to think that Narduzzi is intentionally tanking the season by playing the worst choice.
 
Because after all, football coaches are infallible.
So who do you put in for an already injured line? The backup QB threw two pics. Our receivers are young. I'm more upset at the defense then the offense....at least the offense has an excuse.
 
Franklin's actually a perfect of example of the premise that it's the Jimmies and the Joes.

It absolutely is. I would hire any random person from this message board to "coach" the team if we can recruit like a blue blood.

To take it a step further, you really just need an elite QB/WR combo. See Pitt 2021 and TCU 2022. TCU was probably a 4-8 team without those 2. And really just a 6-6 type team who won all their close games and surprised a Michigan defense who couldn't stop their Big 2.
 
Does it remain true that he is worse than CV? The stats, especially those you ignored, may indicate otherwise.

You seem to think that Narduzzi is intentionally tanking the season by playing the worst choice.
Ok, congratulations I suppose. You are as brilliant as our coaches. Enjoy the continued sucking.
 
Brennan Armstrong's regression has been something

You almost don't know what you're going to get year to year out of some of these guys. Jurkovec looked like a high draft pick (based more on potential than production, but still), then he wasn't. Slovis... same thing. Bo Nix and Quinn Ewers looked like busts; now they're Heisman candidates. Devin Leary was showing first round flashes - then he wasn't. Tyler Van Dyke looked like a top ten pick... then he was awful... now he's back. DJ U looked like the next big thing at Clemson in 2020. Travis looked like a bust, now he's a Heisman candidate.

I mean, I guess I understand the ones who get better. But so many get weirdly worse. Just so much turnover in college with coaching/schemes and players. You're probably better off declaring for the draft the second you're eligible and projected to go fairly high (like first 4 or 5 rounds, even).
 
Sometimes, good QB's make the players around them look better. And sometimes, it's the other way around.
 
It is one thing to be critical of the results. It’s a whole other level of immaturity to think the coaches have better options to work with at this time but are holding out.

That's the point. Narduzzi and his staff have not recruited players who are even remotely capable of playing at this level and winning. They don't have better options and they are to blame for that. Either that or they do have players but don't know how to coach them. Or probably both.
 
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Sometimes, good QB's make the players around them look better. And sometimes, it's the other way around.
Yes. I actually think Pitt has far better talent other than Jurkovec. 10 win talent? No. But certainly the typical Duz level of 7-5, 8-4. It doesn’t take too much talent for that, especially in the ACC.

But Jurkovec has personally cost them the Cincinnati and WVU games and likely the VT game (I
we’d still lose UNC, because we have just barely average defense and didn’t stop UNC at all).

Would CV or Yarnell have salvaged any of those other losses? Even the limited unprepared time CV had in the UNC, despite some mistakes (made due to that lack of prep and PT and desperate need to pass every play) … yes … it seems obvious he would. He isn’t great, maybe not even good, but anyone not mentally challenged can see he’s leaps and bounds better than Jurkovec. Again that’s not saying he’s anything better than average. Neither did Yarnell show better than average last year. But Jurkovec is in the sewer. He’s probably the worst QB in college football this year. Maybe of the past several decades. One if the worst ever. Only a mentally ill coach would keep playing him. And only mentally ill, sycophantic fans would still be arguing for him to.

Lyke needs to force him to make the change, and dare him to quit if he doesn’t like it.
 
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That's the point. Narduzzi and his staff have not recruited players who are even remotely capable of playing at this level and winning. They don't have better options and they are to blame for that. Either that or they do have players but don't know how to coach them. Or probably both.
Would you be willing to concede that this is an "off year"?
 
So who do you put in for an already injured line? The backup QB threw two pics. Our receivers are young. I'm more upset at the defense than the offense....at least the offense has an excuse.
Which QB will still be on roster next year ?
Play they one .
Same with every other Position .
Jurk sucks , and out of eligibility .
There is zero reason to play him unless the coaches are actually as dumb as they seem .
 
Where are your seats ?
Mine are in the West club .
You’re retired so ya have plenty of time
Mine were in Wisconsin and Michigan the last 2 weeks. I have lots of time to travel ... and I do.

More relevantly, I invested 5 years of tuition in Pitt. I am definitely invested.
 
BTW, I don't know if anyone noticed this or not but an ACC team that brought in a transfer quarterback from another ACC team announced today that they were benching that quarterback because he wasn't playing well.

Even though that guy was completing 58.8% of his passes compared to Bookovec's 50.9% and he had run for 286 yards compared to Bookovec's 59.
The Robert Anae - Brennan Armstrong reunion hasn't played out very well either. They had some nice talent around him at UVA back in 2021.
 
The Robert Anae - Brennan Armstrong reunion hasn't played out very well either. They had some nice talent around him at UVA back in 2021.
Yeah like that #99 one of the best high-pointers I’ve seen lately. Caught everything in their zipcode. Made Armstrong look good.
 
Mine were in Wisconsin and Michigan the last 2 weeks. I have lots of time to travel ... and I do.

More relevantly, I invested 5 years of tuition in Pitt. I am definitely invested.
You’re not
no skin in the game .
 
You’re not
no skin in the game .
I'm not a player nor coach. They're the only ones with skin in the game.

I'm a lifelong fan because I'm an alumnus. That's far more than a fan lost due to Narduzzi as the OP implied.
 
I'm not a player nor coach. They're the only ones with skin in the game.

I'm a lifelong fan because I'm an alumnus. That's far more than a fan lost due to Narduzzi as the OP implied.
As usual , you over estimate yourself
 
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