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Malik Zaire a Pitt Lock? Things got VERY interesting today

ESPN reported this afternoon that ND has blocked every team on their schedule next year except for North Carolina.
 
Jeter wasn't a graduate transfer. Different rules apply.


I think they technically can block any school they want to - look what Stallings did to Jeter while he was at Vandy. Typically what they do and is considered "acceptable" is block anyone they'll be playing in the future. And as was speculated in Jeter's case - anyone thought to be "tampering".
 
Can someone refresh my memory...isnt MZ from eastern Ohio??

I remember Herbstreit a couple of years ago in the preseason preview say Mailk Zaire was his preseason Heisman choice.

I know he has a big big arm.....
 
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Jon McNamara ‏@McNamaraRivals Nov 29Franklin, WI
From a #Wisconsin source on pursuing Notre Dame QB transfer Malik Zaire: "doubtful" Badgers very tight on scholarships right now.
Right, so Wisconsin did not report they were out because they were out of scholarships. A Rivals writer reported a source said it was "doubtful" they pursued Zaire and he commented: "Badgers very tight on scholarships right now."

Do you know how quotes work?
 
Can someone refresh my memory...isnt MZ from eastern Ohio??

I remember Herbstreit a couple of years ago in the preseason preview say Mailk Zaire was his preseason Heisman choice.

I know he has a big big arm.....
Yes, he is from Kettering and went to Archbishop Alter.
 
-Hard to say just how good. He was the 2014 MVP of the Music City bowl win over LSU. In 2015 he was the starter until a season ending injury. Had a QBR rating of 187 with 500 pass yards, 100 rush yards and 4 TD's vs Texas and Virginia with Zero turnovers.

-So yes, he can certainly play and play well. Would be awesome to have him and TMAC on the same team, let the best man win.
He's better than Schneider for sure
 
Looks like UNC is going to be an option.

They play Notre Dame next year, but ND still gave him his release there.

They wouldn't have done that unless Malik asked for UNC to be an option.

May mean Trubisky is going pro.
 
Looks like UNC is going to be an option.

They play Notre Dame next year, but ND still gave him his release there.

They wouldn't have done that unless Malik asked for UNC to be an option.

May mean Trubisky is going pro.
That guy is going pro for sure he looks to be the number one QB in the draft. He would be stupid not to, unless he really hates the Browns! :)
 
Jeter wasn't a graduate transfer. Different rules apply.

That's absolutely correct which obviously escaped me.

But in that case aren't grad transfers allowed to go wherever they want? I may be way off here but I thought once the player graduated they could just go wherever and they couldn't be blocked.

Is this one in the middle so to speak since he hasn't technically graduated yet and Kelly just have him his release early so he could get on with it?
 
That's absolutely correct which obviously escaped me.

But in that case aren't grad transfers allowed to go wherever they want? I may be way off here but I thought once the player graduated they could just go wherever and they couldn't be blocked.

Is this one in the middle so to speak since he hasn't technically graduated yet and Kelly just have him his release early so he could get on with it?

No, I believe the school has to release him from his scholarship
 
Looks like UNC is going to be an option.

They play Notre Dame next year, but ND still gave him his release there.

They wouldn't have done that unless Malik asked for UNC to be an option.

May mean Trubisky is going pro.

I live in Mentor OH. Guys at my country club are friends with Mitch's father. He's going pro.
 
UNC will definitely be in play for him if ND didn't block them, that's a very telling thing.

Zaire would definitely be good in a Canada offense. The read-option principles, the sleight of hand and the ability to turn broken plays in to something would be very intriguing.

Nathan was actually pretty good at times taking off and running. This guy would redefine what Canada could actually draw up because he's faster and a little more elusive while retaining some power in the run game and a very, very strong arm.

That said, if UNC is in the mix you follow the money. That's where he's likely going.
 
In that article it states that TMAC was the #91 rated player in his recruiting class? Am I reading that right? I had no idea he was that highly regarded.

I'm on the fence with Zaire. There's definite potential there for this to be a successful move but on the other hand is this guy way overrated? His career at ND has amounted to next to nothing and the two games another poster referenced above were against two god-awful teams. Maybe it's better (longterm) to stick with TMAC?

Peterman's career at Tennessee was way less than this guy at ND, and he did OK.
 
Zaire beat out Kaiser who is a top NFL pick. Ya, he's not good, we won't want him at QB for a year.....c'mon man!
 
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Pretty sure Kizer beat out Zaire this season not the other way around. Either way, Zaire has some nice talent and I'd love to have him here. That said, I think he would, but he'd have to earn the job over MacVittie. I know ND has some nice talent at QB but with Kizer likely entering the draft, I'm a little surprised Zaire isn't staying. I assume ND has a stud or two waiting to start next season?
 
Ill tell you one thing - I dont want Pitt to have to play against him. I'd take him just so UNC cant.
 
Regarding McVittee, he was re-evaluated after his senior season by 247, which made sense, because it was his ONLY season at QB. They moved him way up, re-listed him as the #8 QB in the country, #79 player overall, and the guy who wrote the article about his re-evaluation said he thought they should have ranked him higher still.

The other services had him as a 3-star guy before his senior season, which was a bit silly, since he'd never played QB (probably should've been unrated at that point). He committed to Pitt well before his senior season, and other schools stopped recruiting him, so the other services ignored him. He had a fantastic senior season, showing that he was the real deal, but these services yawned, and didn't care because their focus was on guys not yet committed, and didn't bother to re-evaluate him.

Then Chaney left, the guy who had developed a relationship with him and recruited him, and other schools stepped in, thinking McV was in play again. LSU and USC were all over him, but he'd really come to like Pitt, and Narduzzi stepped in and convinced him to stay.

But forget where he is ranked, go watch his film. Unlike most HS QB highlight reels, he is not standing comfortably in the pocket, play pass and catch with a talented WR. He played in an extremely competitive league, and most of the time, he was running for his life. He shows great footwork while moving in the pocket, and moving outside the pocket to make a play. He can take off and run with great speed, but he can also find guys while on the move, and can effortlessly throw a toss well down field while on the move. A very exciting prospect.

I know all this, because I have friend who's in the same country club with....
 
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Regarding McVittee, he was re-evaluated after his senior season by 247, which made sense, because it was his ONLY season at QB. They moved him way up, re-listed him as the #8 QB in the country, #79 player overall, and the guy who wrote the article about his re-evaluation said he thought they should have ranked him higher still.

The other services had him as a 3-star guy before his senior season, which was a bit silly, since he'd never played QB (probably should've been unrated at that point). He committed to Pitt well before his senior season, and other schools stopped recruiting him, so the other services ignored him. He had a fantastic senior season, showing that he was the real deal, but these services yawned, and didn't care because their focus was on guys not yet committed, and didn't bother to re-evaluate him.

Then Chaney left, the guy who had developed a relationship with him and recruited him, and other schools stepped in, thinking McV was in play again. LSU and USC were all over him, but he'd really come to like Pitt, and Narduzzi stepped in and convinced him to stay.

But forget where he is ranked, go watch his film. Unlike most HS QB highlight reels, he is not standing comfortably in the pocket, play pass and catch with a talented WR. He played in an extremely competitive league, and most of the time, he was running for his life. He shows great footwork while moving in the pocket, and moving outside the pocket to make a play. He can take off and run with great speed, but he can also find guys while on the move, and can effortlessly throw a toss well down field while on the move. A very exciting prospect.

I know all this, because I have friend who's in the same country club with....


Absolutely agree. But next season I think Zaire is the better player. And we will have a veteran line and still young defense. May be the difference of a 9-3 8-4 year and 7-5 6-6. We stack another big year up and duzz has serious cred on the trail.
 
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I for one want to see MC get a chance to build his offense around having both Zaire and TMAC on the field together. Can you imagine the creativity of his moving offense having this big mobile QB along with another mobile QB in TMAC running the show. I can see lots of options with the talent he would have to work with. This would also give TMAC one more year to grow and get ready to take control the following year while still getting significant field time next year. Perfect scenario if you ask me.
I'm not a Mcvittie fan but I whole heartedly agree with you especially because it seem they have the same qualities and that means we would have 3 great years at that postion if McVittie develops. Pitt would be 15-25 every year.
 
-Wisconsin is officially OUT, they dont have the ships. Notre Dame blocked Michigan State, he cannot transfer there. And Florida is not their top target.

-Huge smoke coming out it could be Pitt, and Pitt could start in the Top 15 in the country next year if it happens.

-Steve Wiltfong who runs 247 said its a no brainer to Pitt

-Very exciting potential news
After seeing what OC Canada did for Peterman it is wonder why Zaire would not make PITT IS IT? It would be great if Zaire could turn some of those ND Commits around too, not just in 2017, but 2018 as well, and maybe Jeter too!

Zaire choosing Pitt can explain what to expect at Notre Dame under Kelly complaining and blaming his Players?

Any Thought?
 
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I think they technically can block any school they want to - look what Stallings did to Jeter while he was at Vandy. Typically what they do and is considered "acceptable" is block anyone they'll be playing in the future. And as was speculated in Jeter's case - anyone thought to be "tampering".
Good point, Kelly has western PA recruits in the ND Pipeline, and Zaire could help change that, and Pitt is playing ND in 2018, probably without Kelly being there?

Kelly seems to be petty that way, very much reminds me of Todd Graham and they do look alike if some others differ they sure act alike towards blaming their Players and both have Losing Records?!?

4-8 Kelly Jelly!
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5-7 Toad GraHAM!
 
Posted on another thread that the ND rep of a player is not an automatic elite player. He may be good or not. I will trust the coaches on this. But to suggest he will flourish is simply wishful thinking. I take Mac V and don't look back.
 
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Posted on another thread that the ND rep of a player is not an automatic elite player. He may be good or not. I will trust the coaches on this. But to suggest he will flourish is simply wishful thinking. I take Mac V and don't look back.
Don't disagree with any of this... That's why, if he comes to Pitt, hoping he reports in the spring and he and MacVittie compete. Dude's essentially not guaranteed a starting job anywhere unless he goes to a garbage program or FBS. I'm sure MZ knows that too.
 
Why? I always wonder why people want to limit options? Wasn't Savage a senior transfer? That turned out ok.
I guess you skipped the word "usually", meaning there are times I think it is a good idea, like it would be for Zaire and was for Savage. It is USUALLY best to build from within.
 
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Posted on another thread that the ND rep of a player is not an automatic elite player. He may be good or not. I will trust the coaches on this. But to suggest he will flourish is simply wishful thinking. I take Mac V and don't look back.
Agree......leave it to Matt & the Duzz too!
 
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