Marino's senior year?

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

I say this as someone who is by no means a straight edge or teetotaler or anything. But am I the only person who’s never had the desire to try cocaine?

Nope. I am with you. I am far from a teetotaler also, and have sampled herbal stuff occasionally, but never, ever tried or felt the pressure to try cocaine. Not that I haven't had the opportunity. But no way.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

I’m not sure Marino would be as much of a Pitt legend if it were today.

Sure, he was a great college player. And of course a local kid. But he had a poor, and underachieving senior year.

Then his legend grew due to being one of the great NFL QBs of all time. Not sure that happens today. I think a lot of fans would be pissed and never forgive him - lol.

He would have been gone after his Jr year, the #1 pick in the NFL Draft if he played today.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Interesting hindsight. The 1983 draft class, especially the 1st round, was considered one of the greatest of all time.

You had 7 of the then 28 1st rounders make the HOF. Elway, Dickerson, Covert, Matthews, Kelly, Marino and Darrelle Green. You also had PSU's Curt Warner, Billy Ray Smith, Dave Rimington (hell they have an award named after him), Willie Gault, Pitt's Tim Lewis, Blackledge, etc....

The 1982 draft, which would be Marino's JR year, there were only 2 HOFers ub the first rd, Mike Munchak and Marcus Allen. The first overall pick was the very unimpressive Kenneth Sims to the Pats and then Johnny Crooks to the Colts

Just you wonder if guys could go after their 3rd season, how drafts would have went..

 

[4Mark_Marty]

I say this as someone who is by no means a straight edge or teetotaler or anything. But am I the only person who’s never had the desire to try cocaine?

Len Bias ruined it for me. I'm high strung as it is. Weed made me paranoid. I'd probably die of a heart attack if I tried cocaine.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

I was at the games. Danny’s receivers frequently let him down; they couldn’t catch a cold.

yep, I think Tim Lewis called them out in public. I really liked Dawkins & Collins but they needed the tough hand of Sherill to motivate them. Sherill didn't mind benching someone for whatever reason. Remember Willy Collier? Was the starting WR, got hurt, passed up by Dwight Collins and was never heard from again. There was enough depth back then so that the fear of getting passed over was a strong motivator.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Len Bias ruined it for me. I'm high strung as it is. Weed made me paranoid. I'd probably die of a heart attack if I tried cocaine.

I can't believe you went there. I was going to say the same thing. If by all accounts Lenny Bias's 1st time when he used coke he died? THat alone was enough to scare me away from it. I was a teenager at the time and it really resonated with me.

 

[Panthers2015]

I can't believe you went there. I was going to say the same thing. If by all accounts Lenny Bias's 1st time when he used coke he died? THat alone was enough to scare me away from it. I was a teenager at the time and it really resonated with me.

That was a “where were you when you heard” moment for so many. Still shockingly sad to this day, nearly four decades later. And far more effective a deterrent than any “Just say no” campaign.

 

[4Mark_Marty]

That was a “where were you when you heard” moment for so many. Still shockingly sad to this day, nearly four decades later. And far more effective a deterrent than any “Just say no” campaign.

Had to be more to the story than just coke.

 

[CrazyPaco]

Foge was the wrong coach, but as I learned this week on the pay board where someone posted a newspaper link from 1993 that glossed over the Foge, Gottfried and Hackett’s years, Pitt football was f&cked after Sherrill left and Posvar-Bozik were calling the shots.

Foge was hired and told by the eggheads that they just want a clean program. Admissions were being raised and Foge mentioned many kids were turned away, with Jerome Brown as the lone kid mentioned.

Foge gave a veteran team too much rope and they pulled on it. Marino may have played better in 1982 if Joe Moore called the plays, as he did in 1981. Moore was promoted to assistant head coach and Daniels the OC. I guess the players weren’t scared of Moore either as the assistant head coach has authority too. Dawkins and Collins sure weren’t scared of the staff as the two played like crap that season for Danny. Losing John Brown for most of the season with a knee injury didn’t help.

A lot of egghead talk in the article and Posvar must’ve been so proud of himself by making Pitt a power then deciding it is getting too big and expensive so best thing is to take a wrecking ball three times in one decade by hiring Foge, firing Gottfried and hiring Hackett. Had they kept the Pitt Guy longer, Major Harris matriculates to Oakland and was good enough to make Foge a 9-win coach and the eggheads may not have destroyed the program entering the 90s.

Of course, Mary Brasco and other administrative jerks probably would’ve killed it anyway.

Some anecdotes about Posvar's meddling in
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This guy, not a fan.

 

[Panthers2015]

Some anecdotes about Posvar's meddling in

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