the major beef about Dixon was underachieiving in March, but he largely got Pitt there on the backs of relatively mediocre recruits. Miller gets even better recruits, and struggles just as bad if not worse. So why would we want him again? I get that he is better than Stallings, but if he has to buy players to recruit, has this FBI thing hanging over him and chokes every March, I would rather have someone else.
Miller - why???
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-This year is UNLV part 2 with the shark, when the feds and everyone else ruined UNLV's dream season. To many distractions buried this team.
Give me a break. Sean Miller would be a freaking savior here. This program didn’t win a single ACC game and you’re telling me you wouldn’t want to roll the dice with a guy who would bring in talent like we haven’t seen since the days when he was playing here?
I will say this - Miller would provide a huge jolt to the fan base. The average Yinzer recognizes his name and would be more inclined to buy tickets.
Is he planning on continuing to pay players? Because it would be interesting to see what kind of players he brings in when he's not at one of the top programs in the West and him and his assistants aren't paying kids.
We were 0-and freaking-19 this year and you think Pitt can do better than Sean Miller?
I would take Miller because I was satisfied with Dixon. But I've been saying the same thing for a long time, if Dixon was such a failure for not reaching the final four at Pitt, how is our savior a guy that couldn't even do it at Arizona?
That's the dumbest post of the year, and that is really saying something
Of course he would still pay to get players. Just gotta be smart about it.
People need to come and accept the fact that Miller just isn't that good of a coach. He was all recruiting, and his recruiting is dirty.
Now, how the hell does he recruit without Book and without paying players at a school that is harder to recruit to?
Oh, and how the hell does he counter opposing coaches who are going to pound the message into recruits that Miller is dirty, and he has to fear sanctions from the NCAA and even potential Jail time from the feds?
How does he recruit? How?
AND now you add the two together. A woefully underacheiving coach who no longer has the elite level talent.
A Coach who gets less out of his players than what they are capable of, now gets players who are capable of less.
That is an disaster.
Now, how the hell does he recruit without Book and without paying players at a school that is harder to recruit to?
Oh, and how the hell does he counter opposing coaches who are going to pound the message into recruits that Miller is dirty, and he has to fear sanctions from the NCAA and even potential Jail time from the feds?
How does he recruit? How?
AND now you add the two together. A woefully underacheiving coach who no longer has the elite level talent.
A Coach who gets less out of his players than what they are capable of, now gets players who are capable of less.
That is an disaster.
We had a guy who blew it every March, and people hated him for it. Now you want the same guy, only he is under FBI investigation. Yes, we can do better. You're acting like the desperate ugly guy at closing time ready to sleep with anyone just because you don't want to go home alone. Have some self respect man.
Can't recruit without cheating, under FBI investigation, chokes almost every March in spite of having NBA talent. Actually, I am correct, and you did nothing to prove me wrong.
We need to get a guy who can do it with excellent coaching and a system that works. You know, like the guy who handed Miller his hat last night.
I don't want Miller. Or I should say he is about 5 on my list. My concern is whether he can recruit without cheating. He is a cheater and has been a cheater. While I understand that a lot of coaches cheat and NCAA hoops is a cesspool, the reality is that Pitt is not going to get dirty like that so haivng a cheating coach come in won't work.
Can we demand in his contract that he wears undershirts?
Jamie Dixon is gone, there is certainly an argument that many (not pointing fingers lol) should have appreciated him more.
But that chapter is closed. Like Cheese Wagstaff once said “there ain’t no back in the day, just the here and now!”
And that’s it. Here and now, this is one of the two best hires we can make
But that chapter is closed. Like Cheese Wagstaff once said “there ain’t no back in the day, just the here and now!”
And that’s it. Here and now, this is one of the two best hires we can make
If the best guy we can hire is a guy under FBI investigation, who just killed one of the most storied programs in the nation and got blown out by a MAC team, then yeah, he's our guy!
Yeesh...over and over and over...I hope you go to jail so we don't have to listen to this any more than the 100th time you've repeated it. Take a rest.
I am far from the only person to point out that A) He isn't a good coach. and B) His recruiting is going to absolutely crater with other coaches lightnng him up.
You should work for lifetime writing dramatic scripts like that.
He didn’t kill Arizona. He resurrected it.and who knows what is going to happen with the FBI.
He’s willing to sign a contract that states if he is found of any wrongdoing Pitt can sue him.
I’m not sure he’s the best guy but calling him Stallings 2 is ridiculous
That would be a big improvement from the current situation. Baby steps.....
Since you've made the point a thousand times, we understand your position on Miller. There is quite a bit of evidence to suggest your opinion is weak.
what evidence is there to suggest he will be able to recruit with other Coaches using the FBI investigation against him?
What evidence is there that he is a coach able to make the final four with below average talent, when he cant even make it with elite level talent?
There is no evidence to suggest he is going to be able to recruit well moving forward. He literally doesn't have a single commit right now to his name.
Maybe worse than stallings even. Shocking you think resurrecting a program means no recruits next year and a possible death sentence. Yeah, sign me up for some of that!
But can he coach them? From what I saw last night and this year, the answer is doubtful.
And do you think other coaches will use that cheating and the scandal as ammunition to recruit against us if he were here?
He's way down my list, near the bottom. He was there before last night and he still is. Yes, him just being here will get fans in the stands for a while. But when he can't recruit, because of negative recruiting and other factors, and can't coach a team to 25+ wins, fans will leave quickly. He's coaching now in a very weak PAC12 and got beat by a mid-major, a well-coached mid-major. The good ACC coaches will outcoach him to shreds.
Personally, I prefer Hurley. I can’t see Pitt hiring Miller even if he wanted the job, but my point is we are not in a position as fans to turn our nose up at anyone after the season we just endured.
I am a yinzer homer who always has rooted for Sean Miller. but he'd be a horrible hire now. What a mess.
Matta is out. Broken down old horse which may not make it to the next watering hole and you know what happens at that time!
Miller is a poor choice
Hurley won't take a job in Pittsburgh just ask his wife. And if he would he would be too expensive for what PITT would get back in coaching services. Lyke would have to overpay to get him.
Oakes is the obvious answer!
Increase his comp
Put annual performance incentives in his contract to he can reach higher comp levels as he delivers quality coaching services.
+ he'll be around for a few years. Build in a large buy-out so when he becomes a star another program will have to pay up to steal him.
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Struggles just as bad if not worse?
You might want to take a look at his head coaching record going back to Xavier.
How many Elite 8s did Dixon get to again? How well did Dixon do with his highest seeds?
Miller's best teams had TJ McConnell running the point. Did Dixon offer TJ a scholarship? How many guards has Dixon had that were better players than TJ again? And this kid was in his back yard for 4 years.
The truth is unless Miller is hired, which is not going to happen, Pitt won't get a coach anywhere near as accomplished as Sean Miller, or with the potential to be that accomplished at Pitt, I guarantee that. You don't have to like the guy, he may even prove yet to be the total scumbag many on this board think he is, but he's one of the few real brand names in the college coaching business for a reason.
LOL! Yeah, he's one of those terrible coaches that has the 4th highest conference winning percentage in the history of the sport and has a plus .500 record in the tourney and is the 2nd winningest coach since 2010.
Sure there were some folks that bashed Dixon for under performing in the tournament and there would be for Miller if he came here and did the same. That's natural.
He wins everything but the tourney. Yeah, there are some questions about his recruiting ethics but he's on a pretty long list and the evidence against him personally being involved has already unraveled quite a bit. Still its a legit concern.
Bottom line, if you get a chance to hire one of the top 5 coaches in the country at a reduced rate with a chip on his shoulder and you say no, you are an idiot of epic proportions.
Sure there were some folks that bashed Dixon for under performing in the tournament and there would be for Miller if he came here and did the same. That's natural.
He wins everything but the tourney. Yeah, there are some questions about his recruiting ethics but he's on a pretty long list and the evidence against him personally being involved has already unraveled quite a bit. Still its a legit concern.
Bottom line, if you get a chance to hire one of the top 5 coaches in the country at a reduced rate with a chip on his shoulder and you say no, you are an idiot of epic proportions.
The pining on this board for Sean Miller is sad and pitthetic. Had he not attended Pitt, no one would want to have anything to do with him.
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