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NC State Game & Other Dribbles ...

Dark times for the fans of the local sports teams ahead. The last 20 years have been mostly fun.
The Steelers are finally going to need a rebuild.
The Pens long and often glorious run is going to end.
The Pirates are the Pirates.
Pitt football is Pitt football.
Pitt Basketball seems to be the biggest conundrum, like in some bizarre purgatory where they tease you and steal defeat from the jaws of victory in the most confounding ways.
 
It makes my head spin when I see people bringing up COVID. It’s as if some people think it’s only impacting certain people or teams. Everyone’s dealing with it so it’s not an excuse of any kind. Only exception may be if a team was without a key player or 2 due to illness. Other than that it’s a bunch of nonsense.
And we really haven’t been impacted with players having to sit out.
 
It should be obvious by now that there are no easy wins for a team like Pitt in the ACC .

While losing is demoralizing losing two games by 1 pt to teams in similar situations really shouldn’t be surprising or unexpected . They’re not losing by double digits . Relax guys the world isn’t ending .

The roster is better , but it’s not good enough yet to expect Pitt to go out and beat ACC teams with ease . Every game is a struggle .

Losing Hugley was huge forcing TB back into play and with the freshman , other than Femi not contributing and Nike not really adding anything the bench is short .

I do find it troubling that JC couldn’t sign anyone in the early signing period . Pitt historically isn’t in play for the best transfers .

I‘ve said this before and until Pitt can find a point guard that resembles its HC he’s not going to consistently win here . X is just to helter skelter .
 
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Narduzzi isn't getting a pass. He has had some winning seasons and some big upsets. He has also had some disappointing losses the last couple years that Pitt should have won. One thing is the Pitt football team plays hard for the coach they do not quit. Players on the team I know really like the coach. Pitt basketball seems to have a lack of discipline and effort some nights. The same errors. I want Coach Capel to win at Pitt.
 
The team is poor in fundamentals. They don't seem to improve as the season goes on. Frankly, they play dumb.

The team is poorly coached. See comment above and the fact that their offensive sets are a joke.

You could see early that Toney was on. I would have fed him continuously.
 
This should be even more concerning. This pandemic has exposed more coaches who are unorganized, lazy and frankly let the players just play than anything I’ve ever seen. People who are quick thinkers and can adapt on the fly have reigned supreme. Cal, K and Bill Self to a lesser degree have been exposed as people who need all that extra time to get kids ready with crap games that mold their team and figure out how to control them.

Great post.

There's probably also some benefit to guys like Bennett who define a real style and play the hell out of it regardless of opponent. I always thought that was one of the reasons that Pitt did well in conference under Dixon, and especially in the Big East tournament runs. They knew what they were going to do and didn't care, and didn't fear, whoever was on the other side of it.
 
Dark times for the fans of the local sports teams ahead. The last 20 years have been mostly fun.
The Steelers are finally going to need a rebuild.
The Pens long and often glorious run is going to end.
The Pirates are the Pirates.
Pitt football is Pitt football.
Pitt Basketball seems to be the biggest conundrum, like in some bizarre purgatory where they tease you and steal defeat from the jaws of victory in the most confounding ways.
The upside for the Steelers the rebuild is really just offensive line and qb
Granted most important - but at least their defense is young and good
 
Great post.

There's probably also some benefit to guys like Bennett who define a real style and play the hell out of it regardless of opponent. I always thought that was one of the reasons that Pitt did well in conference under Dixon, and especially in the Big East tournament runs. They knew what they were going to do and didn't care, and didn't fear, whoever was on the other side of it.
Having an identity matters
 
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Pitt fans are forgetting the baseline. Your average losing team can get turned around in year 3. 0-18 is not your average losing team, however. That's as dismal as it gets.

There's plenty to criticize Capel about, but he's doing about as well as anyone Pitt could have hired. The Hugley thing has been a disaster. Coulibaly as a junior would be a nice backup on an ACC team. As a sophmore starter with only Brown behind him it was obvious this team was in trouble. No idea what kind of impact the car theft had on team morale, but it couldn't be good. Without the car episode I think the progress is satisfactory. Nothing to be overjoyed about, but no reason to be gloomy.

Capel's recruiting has been about what I expected. He got a guy like X to come to a winless program, but now he has to live with him as PG for a few years. Sometimes it's just as hard to rein in a guy like X as it is to light a fire under a guy like Brown. Nobody knows what the 2022 roster is going to look like, but the players brought in from his first three classes seem good enough to turn an awful team into a middle of the conference team.

Compared to what was here before Capel, I don't mind watching them play. They are not smart or particularly well coached, but they are tough and athletic. I don't cringe watching them play anymore, I now get frustrated. That's enough to at least give me hope.
 
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I think it was you, me, and about six other people who were there for all of them.

Probably. I went to maybe 50%-60%. I remember I had to miss the Duke game because I must have had the flu. Literally couldn't get out of bed. Set my alarm for 9 to watch the game, made it most of the 1st Half then fell asleep again. If COVID is worse than that than that would suck.
 
The only other thing I’d add.. which I know many of you will roll your eyes about... is that this year and all the protocols, cancellations, rules, etc., is extremely hard on players.

Capel has talked about it a lot but until you experience it with kids at that age and go through that process it’s truly hard to understand. Things just feel pretty “normal” to us as we sit on our couches and watch the game and discuss it on the board.

It doesn’t necessarily excuse losses or anything I’m just saying to keep it in mind when making our judgements.
The other teams are in the same position.
 
The lack of discipline play is the single most disappointing team characteristic I saw. But, if you enjoy play by play dramatic reaction, either with head shakes , flailing arms, talking long after the play is over, and not getting ready for the next play then this is your cup of tea.

I had high hopes for Capel, but he has demonstrated a lack of coaching ability and inability rally the team behind a defining team character they all rally behind. He just sucks at coaching.
 
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One thing that would make Capel's coaching look better instantly would be a legit high level lead guard.

X is a very unusual kind of player at the one, he has some scoring ability particularly off the dribble, he has a strong handle, he's physical and athletic, but one thing he is not is a floor general or extension of his coach. His basketball IQ is iffy. This team lacks any kind of leadership on the floor, and that really has to come from the point guard position to make a real difference.

Capel has brought in some nice wing type players, but he is yet to bring in the kinds of guards necessary to be a tournament-caliber team. X and Horton are really the only true guards on the roster. A legit post or two would help a lot as well. Doesn't have to be a Shaq or Hakeem, but a guy who is long, strong, athletic and could run the floor would make a major difference.
 
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** Good Evening my fellow Pitt fans.

** I took some time getting to this task tonight. I've dreaded it in fact. I'm wondering why I'm even writing this.

** I suspect I however, that I'm meeting a pledge I made long ago to stick in good times and in bad.

** Unfortunately, much like our last loss to Georgia Tech, no attempts at being clever will make this any more tolerable.

** We are now what our record says we are. Once again we are a below average ACC team.

** We are now what our losing streak says we are. A team that falters poorly down the stretch.

** I hate to view everything as evidence, or lack thereof, that Coach Capel can turn this program around. So instead, I will state the obvious. In three years, it's clear we aren't close to the level of talent needed to compete at the top half of the ACC.

** But that's not what really bothers me. What really bothers me is that all of the most accurate descriptions of our performance fall under a category that can be described only as "poorly coached." This includes unfocused, undisciplined, unorganized and perhaps even unmotivated.

** I hark back all the way to Ben Howland's first year when we often witnessed some excellent basketball played by guys who lacked enough firepower.

** Maybe more troubling is the basic concept that for whatever reason, all of Capel's teams at Pitt have seemed to deteriorate.

** I wish I could offer something more hopeful. And the possibility of a strong finish, something like 3-1 certainly still exists. But it's hard to believe that will actually happen, and something like 1-3 seems a better bet.

** Regardless, I know I will watch them all. And as hard as is it to do ... I'll throw my comments after the game into the fray for whatever, or how little, that may be worth.

DT, when you're this down about a Pitt hoops team, we're in trouble.

Poorly coached seems to describe perfectly what has happened and is happening to this Pitt team. I also question whether we have the talent to even finish in any position in the ACC other than last. Forget the top half. We're not close to sniffing that. And the question really isn't about the talent, when it comes down to it.

Maybe it's not the talent at all, but the blame rests solely on Capel and his coaches. The question mark, the BIGGEST question mark, to me is the head coach. This collapse as the season progresses is the Capel trademark now. His teams deteriorate rapidly as February and March approach. Like you said, Howland in his first year had kids who played some excellent ball but just didn't have the firepower or "talent". They were fun to watch. This group of players is not fun to watch, and it isn't their fault.
 
DT, when you're this down about a Pitt hoops team, we're in trouble.

Poorly coached seems to describe perfectly what has happened and is happening to this Pitt team. I also question whether we have the talent to even finish in any position in the ACC other than last. Forget the top half. We're not close to sniffing that. And the question really isn't about the talent, when it comes down to it.

Maybe it's not the talent at all, but the blame rests solely on Capel and his coaches. The question mark, the BIGGEST question mark, to me is the head coach. This collapse as the season progresses is the Capel trademark now. His teams deteriorate rapidly as February and March approach. Like you said, Howland in his first year had kids who played some excellent ball but just didn't have the firepower or "talent". They were fun to watch. This group of players is not fun to watch, and it isn't their fault.

As far as "talent," Pitt has enough to finish as high as 4th or 5th but that is mostly because the ACC sucks. I mean while teams like VT and Clemson have more talent, they dont have definitively more. Basically teams like Pitt, Clemson, VT, Clemson, NC St, etc are all around the same talent level.....as in NIT level. Coaching is what differentiates the teams. If you're Pitt and you have NIT talent, you're in trouble because Capel doesn't "coach up teams."
 
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