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No way Max Browne legitimately beat out Ben DaNucci.

No inside info is needed I guess, but it is inside info, whether you want to believe it or not.
I believe it, but like I said, I think it's pretty obvious they'll try someone else if he struggles
 
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None! The fix was in.
yeah, I overheard it at camp..."hey, Duzz, whatta say we go with the inferior qb to start the season".."yeah, I think you got a solid point there and to tell the truth I care not about my future coaching career. Browne it is"...now back to your Ancient Aliens marathon...
 
I meant exactly what I asked-does this guy's inside source know anything about MacVittie's place in the QB pecking order or likelihood of getting any PT. Nothing more, nothing less.
I am guessing that none of the backups are in the staff's plans as of now because Max Browne hasn't shown that he can't handle the job. If he shows over the next 2 or 3 games that he can't handle the job I think McVittie could figure in. Let's just hope Browne measures up.
 
Then turn down the bid, don't go anymore unless you get NYD or the playoff. LOL, this program will never have a post season game if they look at it that way! That game was super important and they blew it, 9-4 would of looked so much better, NOBODY REMEMBERS who you played.
I'm kinda in between on that topic, more towards agreeing with you though. I mean the bowl game itself, not any more important than a regular season game. I would argue the pinstripe bowl was less important as an individual game than psu, clemson, or really any ACC game. But, it was a chance to get to 9 wins. Because of that, they entered that game playing for something. 9-4 would've been great, and that would've been the win to finish that season. I don't think they need to be blown up like the holy grail of football, but they are certainly not exhibition games either.
 
Have you ever considered an inversion table?

I swear by mine. It helps with my lower and mid back, and surprisingly, it also gives me relief for the arthritis pain in my knees.

I've considered it a lot. The doctor I went to said I have some slight arthritis in my lower back, but no misaligned discs or bulging discs. So that's good. I am seriously considering the inversion table.
 
DaNucci played great in the bowl, after not being given a snap all season. His teammated did crap the bed on him. What did Narduzzi do after the game? Threw him under the bus.

3-9 1td 2ints is great????? Lol. And why wouldn't they want a younger guy to win the job. Why would they fix it for a guy who will be here 1 year? It makes no sense
 
True. With the one we currently have, any team that gets pressure on Max, he's going to struggle. He does not handle pressure well.
Not sure its the pressure as much as his physical limitation of slow first three steps.
Being at the game and watching Browne carefully I think he has "happy feet." When things start going South he isn't quick ( first three steps) to get moving, he knows it, and he rushes things to stay out of trouble!
Once he gets moving he's at a good pace but he starts with cement feet which isn't a correctible deficiency!
If he had a really good O line I bet he could show us some stuff!
 
Everyone's forgetting that DiNucci would've won the Pinstripe Bowl for Pitt if it wasn't for the Orndorf drop.

I saw DiNucci play a lot at Pine-Richland. He has loads more talent than Tino.

Tino wasn't all that good at Central.

Certainly not near the talent, but DeNucci reminds me of a taller Flutie type of player.

DeNucci starts by game four and keeps the job, does fair to well. Gets tough competition next year from Pickett.
 
I am guessing that none of the backups are in the staff's plans as of now because Max Browne hasn't shown that he can't handle the job. If he shows over the next 2 or 3 games that he can't handle the job I think McVittie could figure in. Let's just hope Browne measures up.
Browne is the starter unless and until he isn't getting it done. If and when that happens, just strictly from the statements the coaches were making in fall camp, I don't think TMAC would be in the mix, and Pickett has earned a shot at it.
 
There is not one damn QB in PA, Ohio, Maryland, that can help us, not one, going on 25 years ??????
 
Everyone's forgetting that DiNucci would've won the Pinstripe Bowl for Pitt if it wasn't for the Orndorf drop.

I saw DiNucci play a lot at Pine-Richland. He has loads more talent than Tino.

Tino wasn't all that good at Central.

Certainly not near the talent, but DeNucci reminds me of a taller Flutie type of player.

DeNucci starts by game four and keeps the job, does fair to well. Gets tough competition next year from Pickett.
QB is a unique position. At the college level, It's not always about the guy with the best arm, quickest feet, etc. It's about running the huddle, being a competitor, having the instincts to make and extend plays, moving the offense down the field, how the players in the huddle respond to the QB. Look at Baker Mayfield. I'll guarantee OU had/has more physically and athletically gifted QBs competing for the job, but Mayfield just keeps getting it done by any means necessary. The offense responds to him and he is a gutsy, instinctive player who can shift into backyard football mode and make a play when things break down around him.

It will be interesting to watch what happens with the QB situation this year. Best case scenario is Browne plays well and holds onto the job, but I have a gut feeling we will see a change made at some point, possibly sooner than we'd hope.
 
Not that TP wasn't a good college qb , but there's no doubt whose the better player .


You're right, in there was no doubt who the better college quarterback was. There is also no doubt who the better pro quarterback is. And there's also no doubt that the answer to the two questions isn't the same.

Do people really not get that some guys are better quarterbacks in college and others are better in the pros?
 
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QB is a unique position. At the college level, It's not always about the guy with the best arm, quickest feet, etc. It's about running the huddle, being a competitor, having the instincts to make and extend plays, moving the offense down the field, how the players in the huddle respond to the QB. Look at Baker Mayfield. I'll guarantee OU had/has more physically and athletically gifted QBs competing for the job, but Mayfield just keeps getting it done by any means necessary. The offense responds to him and he is a gutsy, instinctive player who can shift into backyard football mode and make a play when things break down around him.

It will be interesting to watch what happens with the QB situation this year. Best case scenario is Browne plays well and holds onto the job, but I have a gut feeling we will see a change made at some point, possibly sooner than we'd hope.


This^^ Everyone gets hung up on mechanics and arm strength, but they don't mean as much in college as the pros. That's why I think Nooch can do just fine in college. Has just enough arm, he's accurate, can run, and has ice water in veins. He carried his entire out manned team in that PIAA championship game. The best high school QB performances I've ever seen. Ran that offense like frickin clockwork.

If you saw him play as a sophomore in HS, you would have never imagined he'd turn into what he did. Nobody knows if he can until he's given a shot.

Right now it's Browne's shot and I didn't expect anything different. But, from my limited look at Browne... he ain't the answer. I'd love nothing more than to be wrong about Max.
 
Everyone's forgetting that DiNucci would've won the Pinstripe Bowl for Pitt if it wasn't for the Orndorf drop.

I saw DiNucci play a lot at Pine-Richland. He has loads more talent than Tino.

Tino wasn't all that good at Central.

Certainly not near the talent, but DeNucci reminds me of a taller Flutie type of player.

DeNucci starts by game four and keeps the job, does fair to well. Gets tough competition next year from Pickett.
1. Everyone isn't forgetting that because most seem to know that TD would have only tired the game.

2. Real fans know how to spell his name.
 
This^^ Everyone gets hung up on mechanics and arm strength, but they don't mean as much in college as the pros. That's why I think Nooch can do just fine in college. Has just enough arm, he's accurate, can run, and has ice water in veins. He carried his entire out manned team in that PIAA championship game. The best high school QB performances I've ever seen. Ran that offense like frickin clockwork.

If you saw him play as a sophomore in HS, you would have never imagined he'd turn into what he did. Nobody knows if he can until he's given a shot.

Right now it's Browne's shot and I didn't expect anything different. But, from my limited look at Browne... he ain't the answer. I'd love nothing more than to be wrong about Max.
Can never fairly evaluate a QB on the first game of the season. Game 1s are always a wild card. Let's see what he does in Game 2.
 
https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo...eterman-named-tennessees-starting-quarterback

Nate was an underperforming 4* QB . He was expect to start. He was named a starter as a redshirt freshman and got pulled.

Regarding Max, he completed 65% of his passes verses top 10 teams including the best defense in college football.

This while thread is idiotic for writing him off after one game in a new system. That said- his inability to get himself out of harms way is going to be a problem.

No he didn't. Browne came in with the expectation he would start at USC. It was never the same for Peterman and he played in relief in his 2nd and 3rd years in a program, not his 4th. He was never the starter at UT, but just a fill in. He wasn't really expected to be more between Worley and Dobbs. Browne was and faltered terribly before being pulled. Plus, Peterman split that first game with Voytik and was stronger against a considerably better opponent. There is a lot of season left for Browne to prove he can be a decent college quarterback, but all the evidence points to that being unlikely. That was true before this weekend and even moreso today. I don't think we have a better option (we certainly didn't against Peterman, either, even though some people thought Voytik was a good QB) but that doesn't mean the situations are as similar as that poster was making them out to be. Peterman also had another year to be in the program and improve. Browne has 11-12 more games. That is it. Unfortunately yesterday made that bowl game look like a very difficult proposition.
 
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3-9 1td 2ints is great????? Lol. And why wouldn't they want a younger guy to win the job. Why would they fix it for a guy who will be here 1 year? It makes no sense

The only reason he is here is because Narduzzi had to promise him the starting job. It makes perfect sense. Dinucci could be better than Marino and Browne still would've gotten the nod.
 
You're right, in there was no doubt who the better college quarterback was. There is also no doubt who the better pro quarterback is. And there's also no doubt that the answer to the two questions isn't the same.

Do people really not get that some guys are better quarterbacks in college and others are better in the pros?
Some players do improve more as they mature , some players fit a system better or a coach just has more confidence in a certain player , but if I had a choice of having any future All Pro qb running my college team
( provided that they run a pro style offense ) or TP I'd know who I'd have choosen .
Were the running backs on UNC better than Willie Parker in college or did he magically became a great running back in the pros for the Steelers ?
Coaches do make mistakes too ! Didn't the Steelers cut Johnny Unitas ! Take a pass on Danny Marino etc......
Finally no one knows how Pitt or Flacco would've faired had he stayed and played for Pitt , but I think things worked out pretty good for him at Delaware and TP had a fine career at Pitt . No losers here .
 
In a lot of ways, I agree with you. I just don't have the time to watch a bunch of games and view them as purely entertainment. I was entertained by the VT/WVU game and enjoyed watching that. But I just don't have the time any longer to sit in front of a TV and watch football games for 3+ hours. It better be Pitt and it better be entertaining if I'm going to watch it.

I ONLY watch Pitt pretty much. Pitt games are the only games I watch from beginning to end. I probably haven't watched a football game from beginning to end that didn't include Pitt or the Steelers or wasn't the Super Bowl in 30 years. I watch parts of other games, like I probably watched half of that WVU/VT game. But I don't watch all those bowl games, but I'm glad hey have them just so 6-6 Pitt teams can get an extra game, it's not about "deserving it" or "excellence" it's just an extra TV show that I want to watch and a game I can sit through because I care who wins.
 
I meant exactly what I asked-does this guy's inside source know anything about MacVittie's place in the QB pecking order or likelihood of getting any PT. Nothing more, nothing less.
I asked him specifically, and he doesn't know the QB pecking order beyond what's "official" so it could be that Denucci is the guy if Browne doesn't pick it up. But as it stands,they are as happy with Browne as they expected.
 
Do people really not get that some guys are better quarterbacks in college and others are better in the pros?
Exactly, Tim Tebow is a hall of fame legendary QB in college! It's just a different game. There are literally hundreds of examples of great college QBs, who where truly great at the college level that didn't translate to the pros, and it's usually due to the differences in the games.
 
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