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Not good news for those people wondering about a fall football season...
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I understand your fear, but unfortunately those facilities will have to carefully screen every employee, every day until a vaccine arrives. The development and rollout of on demand antigen and virus testing will also be a big player in these situations. Regardless of shutdowns, this virus is not going away and there are many people out there in essential jobs who can keep spreading it. It's not like the US can clear the streets - people are out and about even with SIP.
My Mom is 90 and in a facility and there is NO way she leaves her condo in the near term. Perhaps family will be able to come and visit with lots of distance and masks, but that's it. We understand the risks and will minimize them as much as possible until a vaccine is developed. This is just me, but I have no issue with opening up cities. We protect the most vulnerable and let those at less risk become contributing members of society again.
(Edit: Having said that if she came to me and said I don't care the risks, I want to be out, I would support her. The stark reality is that some/many of these people may die from any number of things not Covid-related before ever going out in the world again.)
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Wuhan reopened and will now test the 11 mil citizens over the next 6 days to isolate and contact trace .
which is what America has to be willing to do .
the no testing and no tracing - well except for the White House staff- ahem -
Means cases are spreading and will continue to repeak
hooray for a total lack of federal leadership !
my school that I teach at may be open, but we will not have all 1600 kids in at once.
I will put money on that one.
I will put money on that one.
Well appears residents in Chicago and other cities can get tested on demand. There is NOTHING we can do about those who refuse to be tested, just like those who refuse to get annual flu vaccines. We are a free society.
If someone is not comfortable with the current situation, stay isolated - no judgements. I think it's been demonstrated the last 2 months that people can get whatever they want/whenever they want delivered right to their door. No need to ever step outside again.
Sorry for the term "lockdown" - essential businesses have always been open. But for the most part it was shelter in place (and even that isn't the best terminology).
A good friends father is in pretty bad shape he has battled cancer for a while( in remission) but he's 89 and is battling all kinds of ailments. He is still sharp mentally just his body is wearing down. He was out and about the other day. My buddy said he told him he doesn't have enough time left to waste it, if he gets it and dies so be it but he isn't waisting anymore precious time.
You legit think they are going to test 11 million people?
And yes, China is the corona leadership model the rest of the world should look up to.
Holy sh*t my man. Just delete your account.
That is a reality for many of the elderly.
I talk about it with my Mom frequently. Right now she's doing ok with no one but her 1x/week aide and staff but is very concerned she'll never be able to go to dinner or talk in person with her friends again. It's a very sad time for our elderly especially those who lose significant others with no closure (like my Mom).
Seriously? I've lived in both and I'll take Kentucky, by a wide margin, over PA. Not even close.
Joe...We are ALL planning for things to get back to some form of "normalcy", at least I know I am. The point I was trying to make is that NO ONE knows for sure what the future holds for sure.
Also, PLANNING is one thing, making statements that are essentially saying that there WILL be football this fall, is simply not true. Until the governors of each state allows there to be large groups of people gathering together, it doesn't matter what any football coach, AD, school chancellor, league commissioner has to say.
Not trying to be a jerk, but what does a test prove? All it will show is that at the time of you getting that test completed, you were negative for the Coronavirus.
It will do nothing to prevent you from getting the virus after that time.
Yes it means you aren’t actively spreading the virus at that point in time
Which will be needed for a return to normal
Along with masking
The more asymptomatic people that you test, the more positives you get, the more people you take off the street and put into quarantine so they don't spread the virus. Come on now. You really don't understand this.
These strategies like the testing of asymptomatic people or closing schools isnt necessarily to protect THESE people specifically, its to stop the spread of the virus from younger, asymptomatic people to older people.
Then Nick Saban will admonish them and question their loyalties and tell them to have their priorities in line.
Really? Where did you live in PA? Because chances are, you lived in Kentucky.
40% "jump" in the number of cumulative total cases? Of course it went up since 24 APR, because people are still getting infected every day. The important number is the number of new cases per day, which is an indicator of transmission - which has plateaued and GA Dept of Health is currently showing a projected decline there.
Remember, this is all about slowing the transmission - not hiding until it's gone.
I don't know where this fallacy ever came from. Maybe it's just that people assume that a vaccine will keep people from getting this Wuhan virus. We'll never have a vaccine for this flu, just as we don't have a vaccine for the other strains of flu. At best, we'll have some type of flu shot that is 30% - 40% effective at immunizing people for a period of time. So to say we can wait for any sporting event to take place with crowds until a vaccine is developed means we'll never have crowds at sporting events ever again. That's what some politicians want us to do, but it will not sit well with 90% of the population. Focus on the vulnerable segments...those over 65 with underlying conditions, those in nursing homes and long-term care facilities. That's where most of the cases of this flu are occurring and where it is causing the most damage. With the exception of 3 or 4 cities, this Wuhan virus hasn't been doing much damage.
The point is that soon, it's time to just take the risk like we do with all viruses and let people get back to doing their normal routines, including going to football and basketball games. It's time to be reasonable and sane.
The point is that soon, it's time to just take the risk like we do with all viruses and let people get back to doing their normal routines, including going to football and basketball games. It's time to be reasonable and sane.
Do you think the Coach's, AD's, Chancellor's, Commissioner's, Television networks, etc are working in concert together with their state governors'?
Whether or not, fans are at games is a completely different thing.
The stakeholder's of college football know that the money is in television. These same stakeholders know that if that money goes away so does many other very important things.
Why are so many "liberals" so full of hate? So many times you guys digress into insults and name calling.
I agree with you that $ is a very powerful thing. How do you think the following situation would be handled? Let’s say there is an outbreak among a big-time program. Let’s use Alabama. Nick Saban, 5 of his assistants, and 10 guys on the 2-deep test positive for COVID and have to be quarantined for 2 weeks. This happens right before they are about to get into some key conference games. How is this situation going to be handled?
Right. Cause the other side refrains and never says things like “libtard”, dummycrat or dumbocrat . GTFOH with this nonsense.
To be honest.....I don't see how there is going to be any sports (the 4 major leagues).
MLB makes sense, can be done rather safely, but they are the biggest babies and aren't willing to make any concessions, temporary or not.
The other 3 sports? You can't social distance. There will obviously be exchange of sweat, droplets, etc....it is unavoidable. And how do you enforce "social distancing" say on the sidelines and stupid things like that when you have full contact on the playing field. So I hope the leagues don't embarrass themselves with that charade.
Without testing, constant testing, this isn't going to get done.
MLB makes sense, can be done rather safely, but they are the biggest babies and aren't willing to make any concessions, temporary or not.
The other 3 sports? You can't social distance. There will obviously be exchange of sweat, droplets, etc....it is unavoidable. And how do you enforce "social distancing" say on the sidelines and stupid things like that when you have full contact on the playing field. So I hope the leagues don't embarrass themselves with that charade.
Without testing, constant testing, this isn't going to get done.
yes, nobody can see into the future. That would have been true in May of 2019. If I told you then that football will be played in the fall of 2019, would you have said nobody can see into the future?
As of today, football will be played. Look at the statements that are being released. The idea that the president of WVU is just clueless about that the fall is looking like, is silly.
Constant testing means what? Testing every single person playing the sport and every single person attending these events, every day for at least 2 weeks after the event? And if these players practice and play every week, this could go on forever. That's a lot of tests. All they prove is that on THAT day, a person was negative or positive. The next day, that may change. Or the day after, or the day after that. The test was one data point that is meaningless unless it is part of thousands of data points for that same person. This isn't going to happen.
I dunno. I am talking mostly about the participants. But what are they doing in some of the foreign sports leagues that are opening up?
Thank you my friend! You said it better than could. I keep going back to the Spanish Flu in 1918. It killed 50 million people world wide. 500 million was infected. Yet people had no choice but to go to work. There was no social safety net. Now 100 years later, we have all this.
“stay inside or we will all die!”
“I’m scared!”
“Where’s my safe space!”
Those are today’s battle cries..,
The sad part is most people absolutely believe what they are listening to without one drop of skepticism...
The models have absolutely been wrong but some people accept whatever they dish out as Gospel...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo.../coronavirus-modeling-us-deaths-ihme-pandemic
Let’s not learn anything from the past and repeat the same mistakes. Brilliant!
There is middle ground to be found.
That's the key. People have to quit listening to all of the garbage that the networks and experts keep spewing out there. Most of it is speculation and lies. There is no expert that is better than any other expert, which means none of them know much of anything. That includes Fauci.
If people aren't questioning the advice of these "experts", that's on them and is a huge mistake.
For some it's all or nothing and that's what's wrong in this country. Too many people think they are entitled, etc. Either way you look at this a medium has to be found. It's called being diplomatic and sensible.
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