I get more annoyed at people who scream "Lets Go (Insert team name)" during the anthem, just to hear their voice..
OT: Fergie singing the national anthem
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My Star Spangled Banner life is broken into to epochs, BC and AC (before Carl and after Carl). Before I heard that rendition, I never really gave the anthem that much thought. After him, every time I hear it, I find myself fearing for the singer because of how tough the song is. Its like watching a kicker trying to hit a 50-yarder to win a game on the final play in a game in which I have no rooting interest. Man, I felt bad for him. He was a hero of mine growing up. That was up there with Joe Theisman's broken leg on the cringe-meter.
I watch the NBA to be entertained by the greatest athletes in the world. Not for their political stances but it certainly doesn’t bother me that they give them even If I don’t agree with them.
Yup. Love those 80 games NHL players mail in. Or the 140 games MLB players mail in.
Sorry. I hope I didn't misspell anything. My eyes rolled into the back of my head after I read your comment.
The person who wrote that downtempo quirky bassline as well as the person who approved need to be fired. It wasn't Fergie.....
In the 70's and 80's, the NHL went through a period where the anthem singers became famous for their rousing renditions. They were regular instead of the current, guest singers. Jeff Jimerson is getting pretty close to that here in Pittsburgh where both the Pens and now the Steelers ask him to sing for big games. He does an excellent job.
Jose Feliciano was the first person to do a national anthem with his own sort of ethnic heritage touch. Game 5 of the 1968 world series; before Hendrix, Houston, or Gaye. I like his version but it derailed his career for a decade or two.
Pledge is always stupid.
As is the national anthem before sports.
Do you say the pledge before work each day?
Listen to the anthem before lunch?
actually the version the bare naked ladies did was not real good.
In general on these classic and symbolic songs performers should perform them as they are written. The songs are more about the symbolism than the performer.
every morning, I am doing it right now, as we speak. and not to get weird but I get a semi doing it.. or maybe that's just when I reply to your posts cause im crazy about you ski..
The Star Spangled Banner was written as a poem. Should it just be read? All four stanzas?
You like mindless nationalist rituals- except for yourself .
I prefer to not be a hypocrite and demand others do actions I myself don’t engage in on a daily basis .
I’ll ask again- how many times a year do you personally recite the pledge?
How often in your personal life are you listening to the national anthem?
I'm in the minority that thinks it wasn't bad. She has a super voice. Held the difficult high notes very well, so many don't. The celebs all try to ham it up a bit. I think she's getting a bad rap.
To compare it to Rosanne? Please, that was a travesty, intentionally disrespectful of the Anthem.
To compare it to Rosanne? Please, that was a travesty, intentionally disrespectful of the Anthem.
This is more about you trying to look like the smartest person in the room, rather than him liking "mindless nationalist rituals."
You are overthinking this way too much (just like the performers in question). The whole thing about the national anthem is that it's a pregame ritual, like rubbing the rock, running through a banner, etc. It's just there to hype up fans before the game. These singers overthink the anthem way too much, and make the arrangements way too elaborate. That's why these renditions rarely go over well.
I don't pledge the allegiance since grade school, maybe high school.. I listen to the anthem during sporting events and anywhere else they play it. I stand, put hand over heart and respect the song because to me, it represents something real, sacrifices people have made to make this country what it is.
Not sure how your questions are related to my point of fergie F'ing it up on purpose to try and be relevant again but you go off topic a lot so im used to it by now.
of course you think it's mindless, we know your feelings about this country and people that take pride in this country. we get it, you've said it countless times. you feel some sort of guilt or shame, same as you do with the color of your skin. we know this, we've had this argument countless times before.
let me know if you have any other questions about how I spend my time..
Two things people forget:
1. The pledge of allegiance was written by a Christian Socialist in 1892 who did not include the words "Under God"; that was added in the cold war in 1954.
2. The national anthem (only officially named as such in 1931) didn't used to be routinely sung at sporting events until World War II. Before that, most stadiums didn't have sound systems either. The NFL decided to keep it after VJ day and eventually other sports joined in as well.
FWIW I think the fans chewing gum loudly and keeping their hats on are more "disrespectful" of the moment than athletes silently kneeling in prayer/protest.
1. The pledge of allegiance was written by a Christian Socialist in 1892 who did not include the words "Under God"; that was added in the cold war in 1954.
2. The national anthem (only officially named as such in 1931) didn't used to be routinely sung at sporting events until World War II. Before that, most stadiums didn't have sound systems either. The NFL decided to keep it after VJ day and eventually other sports joined in as well.
FWIW I think the fans chewing gum loudly and keeping their hats on are more "disrespectful" of the moment than athletes silently kneeling in prayer/protest.
So-
To recap-
You’re easily offended by how others practice rituals or more to the point , don’t practice.
National anthem at sporting events seems like strange place to have a ritual to me- why some entertainment but not others?
You challenged my patriotism so I pointed out your conflating nationalism for patriotism.
why do you keep saying everyone is offended? who is offended? your disgust for my country doesn't offend me, I don't know you nor care too. Do what you want, it doesn't upset or offend me.
quit saying anyone that agrees with you is offended. you want to mock the anthem or the pledge of allegiance in this country, knock yourself out. I disagree, it's really that simple.
How in the hell did I get sucked into this debate? I simply said fergie was a decade plus past relevance and I got "white guilt Souf" yelling at me about the pledge of f'in Allegiance.
you want to know what offends me, pitt basketball is offensive to me. knowing pitt's starting center is Terrell brown, someone that shouldn't be allowed to play at trees with college kids in pick up games, that offends me. you want offensive, that's offensive.
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You got “sucked in “because you inserted this comment to initiate it:
When challenged- you made a baseless comment that I hate our country because I don’t equate nationalist rituals with patriotism.
Whereas you do.
Likewise you stupidly assert white guilt into the discussion- for no reason, other than it’s your reaction to anything.
Despite me making no actual comment on her singing- which was bad.
I’m not overthinking anything.
I gave my opinion those nationalist rituals are misplaced in sports - and aren’t common practice anywhere else .
If people elect not to participate or use that ritual as protest- it doesn’t bother me in the least .
It does bother others- who need their rituals affirmed by herd mentality.
you don't think it's ridiculous that schools in California have banned the pledge of allegiance because it was offensive to illegal immigrants? You don't think that's strange? why am I asking you, of course you don't. never mind.
pittdan77
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Baltimore fans (and you hear it at PSU games) that yell "OHHH" really loud during the anthem make me cringe every single time.
There always seemed to be something weird about how you had to behave a certain way during the anthem or you weren't American enough. I get that certain actions are disrespectful to some people but I don't ever recall reading/seeing a civilian standard for behavior. The flag is an entirely other matter.
There always seemed to be something weird about how you had to behave a certain way during the anthem or you weren't American enough. I get that certain actions are disrespectful to some people but I don't ever recall reading/seeing a civilian standard for behavior. The flag is an entirely other matter.
so in one paragraph you criticize fans in how they act during the anthem and in the second, you said how weird it was to expect some sort of agreed upon decorum?
Dude, pick one argument and go with it. or at least use two posts. you cant morph opposing points in one post, it's not allowed.
Why do we make kids pledge their allegiance to a flag? Who else pledges his allegiance to a flag every day?
we don't make them. it's actually been unconstitutional for quite some time. don't think any other countries do. north korea makes kids say good things to their lunatic leader, im sure middle eastern schools make kids pray or they kill them. actually read a story where boston public schools MADE students learn Islamic prayer, that's irony at it's finest. but yeah, no other countries do this. we are unique, probably why you see people from all across the globe practically killing themselves to get into our land.
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It obviously bother you, a great deal. Hence the amount of comments.
That's overthinking it.
pittdan77
Athletic Director
Saying that I cringe is just a personal reaction. I'd defend their right to act like idiots any day. You understand that defending someone's rights doesn't mean you have to agree with them?
What is your source for that statement about a ban? I have found no evidence of it
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