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OT: Is NIL demeaning to women???

I have to keep reminding myself I'm posting where Pitt fans will be reading it. Not really a place to talk about stuff where there is a difference of opinion. If you have one and it's different than the masses here, you get crucified.
 
No one is making 9 figures from OnlyFans bro. You think someone is being paid 2x Steph Curry to show some butt?

The most successful one that I know of is called Amoranth or something. She's made $27 million total. Which is obviously a lot but it's also gross and across a ton of platforms like Twitch, Youtube, etc. Not just OnlyFans. I saw an article where she bought legit commercial businesses like gas stations, too.

So yeah it can be very profitable but a lot of these girls get in it showing a little bit of skin and then have to keep upping the game and doing more and more in order to grow/maintain their subscribership. You know where that ends up.

To paraphrase Star Wars the dark side is seductive because it's such a quick and easy path to power. A lot of these girls are getting the bag now but they're also spending a lot of it: luxury apartment/cars, plastic surgery, etc. And what's the exit plan? You gonna keep doing OnlyFans into your 30s and 40s? Try to work at Chase Bank with a 10 year gap on your resume? I have to imagine that such work has significant personal consequences as well. Idk, to me it seems fairly unsustainable on the individual level. Some of these girls are definitely killing it though.
That's why its hard to believe. Some of these articles state that some of these girls are making $10 million plus per month.
 
I think it's degenerated a lot in recent years to what it is now. I'd rather watch a sport where people don't want to kill each other and use skills more rather than brute force. Basketball can be that.
By your screen name I am assuming you are old enough to remember guys like Jack Tatum and George Atkinson. Donnie Shell. Gary Fencik.

It was everybit as vicious, if not more, back in the 70's and 80;s.
 
What does beat up have to do with it? So someone can beat up someone else. It proves nothing other than one person can beat up another and is a dumb s$%t. No value.

I'm just stating facts about the correlation between playing a musical instrument and academic and life success. Sounds like you know nothing about playing a musical instrument, which is fine. We all have our opinions. My opinion is that sports have a negative correlation to success in life, academics, whatever, other than in the sports I mentioned. Nothing is absolute, but it's a general correlation or negative correlation.
I don't think it is a particularly earthshattering position that those in the band are more inclined to do better than those on a football team. I mean the term "band geek" is more than just a slur, it is earned, and I don't mean this is a negative way.
 
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I think it's degenerated a lot in recent years to what it is now. I'd rather watch a sport where people don't want to kill each other and use skills more rather than brute force. Basketball can be that.
It’s absolutely no different
I have to keep reminding myself I'm posting where Pitt fans will be reading it. Not really a place to talk about stuff where there is a difference of opinion. If you have one and it's different than the masses here, you get crucified.
your different opinions aren’t the problem
It’s that your opinions are idiotic
 
She isn't outraged. I think she feels like someone's athletic abilities should be the primary reason they attract attention to women's sports. I find it to be a bit myopic given the reality of people's motivations. It really isn't much different than Madden crying around about Juju doing TikTok's. These kids are creating a brand and capitalizing on it and some people can't see past the X's and O's.
Madden and other grumpy old men are idiots
Juju was always a team first guy and by all accounts a really solid human .
Fat man is jealous because athletes are having fun and building a brand -which fans love -
And he’s failed at everything so he just reaffirms idiotic takes by yinzers for a living
 
Madden and other grumpy old men are idiots
Juju was always a team first guy and by all accounts a really solid human .
Fat man is jealous because athletes are having fun and building a brand -which fans love -
And he’s failed at everything so he just reaffirms idiotic takes by yinzers for a living
The reality is that female college athletes are not marketable unless they are generational talents (the Iowa bball player) or are very attractive. To be fair, male college athletes arent very marketable either.
 
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To be fair (and Dunne mentions this), there are not professional sporting opportunities for many women athletes. Good for her for making bank while she can. And as for being scantily clad, her competition uniform makes her scantily clad. A true revolutionary coach would change that to long sleeves and leggings.
 
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Considering I have no idea who "the Iowa bball player is," well, you get the point.
I had to google her name (which also proves the point). Caitlin Clark. Nike signed her and you almost never see a legit company signing a college athlete. But there is the idea she may be an all-time great so better to sign her now than before she hits the WNBA. Nike signed 5-6 college basketball players but its because they are forecasting what they become worth when they hit the NBA/WNBA.
 
My opinion is that sports have a negative correlation to success in life, academics, whatever, other than in the sports I mentioned. Nothing is absolute, but it's a general correlation or negative correlation.


That's an interesting opinion that is in direct opposition to all the research on the topic.
 
The best UConn female player is making like 50,000 an Instagram post. She has deals with Gatorade and some other big companies.
 
When will the Stanford womens basketball team demand equal NIL as the mens team?
 
Yeah Paige beuckers, she’s a generational talent
There will be 10 or so college athletes who will sign legit NIL deals with national companies. They have to have the marketability towards the general masses. She is one. Caitlin Clark is another. Bryce Young and CJ Stroud are 2 more. The rest of the NIL deals are pay for play booster salaries or some local restaurant paying a player $2000 to appear in some ads.
 
There will be 10 or so college athletes who will sign legit NIL deals with national companies. They have to have the marketability towards the general masses. She is one. Caitlin Clark is another. Bryce Young and CJ Stroud are 2 more. The rest of the NIL deals are pay for play booster salaries or some local restaurant paying a player $2000 to appear in some ads.
Why do you keep chiming in and saying the same thing , SMF1985?
Early senility
 
The reality is that female college athletes are not marketable unless they are generational talents (the Iowa bball player) or are very attractive. To be fair, male college athletes arent very marketable either.

It's the same thing for female pro athletes, by and large.

Paige Spiranac probably makes as much or more as the best LPGA golfers. Back in the day, Anna Kournikova was somewhat controversial because she was by far the world's most popular tennis player and she never particularly stood out as a singles player.

I guess for soccer there is some convergence. Mia Hamm succeeded both on her talent and looks. Alex Morgan, too.
 
That's why its hard to believe. Some of these articles state that some of these girls are making $10 million plus per month.

I mean, that's just not true. You're looking at garbage pop-culture sources. I'm reading one right now and the article says Blac Chyna makes $20 million "per month" "annual" and it's also her "net worth." These are gossip articles that don't understand finance and can't get their facts straight.

And the boasting just doesn't line up with reality either. Bella Thorne lives in a $2.5 million house - which is kind of mid for Sherman Oaks if we're being honest - but this website says she makes $12 million per month. You think anyone's home would realistically be 21% of their annual gross wages? Hell no.
 
Statistically and in every other category, playing a musical instrument leads to better grades and a more well-rounded, disciplined individual. Moreso than sports. But I doubt people would spend thousands in Panther Club money to see and support the Pitt Symphony (I doubt there is one) or the Pitt Marching Band in concert. Sports has its place and it can help develop discipline and teamwork in young men and women, depending on the sport. But in the grand scheme, sports contributes little and has little redeeming value to society. It's become too professional now, including collegiate, and the almighty dollar drives it.

A case could be made for sports like swimming and diving, tennis, golf, track and field as being character builders more than football or basketball. But those sports don't generate revenue and that's all that matters now.
I would love to see this study!
 
So the wealthy donors who pay female athletes to showcase their “talents” a couple times a month in private, does that now fall under NIL?
 
I said early on that attractive D1 female athletes stand to make the most. There is a huge market for 20 something women to pose scantily clad. Really, these athletes are just soft-core porn models who happen to play a D1 sport. And more power to them. People want to see their thong pictures, so have at it.

This leads me to another topic. WTF is the deal with OnlyFans? I don't quite understand the platform. Apparently, some of it is legit like pay a fee to watch your favorite poet. Then a lot of it is pay a fee to watch your favorite porn person. 2 things I am baffled by:

1. In today's world of free porn everywhere, how is this paid subscription porn become a thing?

2. I've read a few articles about Teacher A or Accountant B quitting their jobs to make like $100 million/year on OnlyFans. Are these numbers real? I mean some of these people are said to be making 9 FIGURES? That seems very hard to believe.

What lead me down to this OnlyFans research rabbit hole is a TikTok'er named Daniel Mac whose thing is going up to people in fancy cars and asking them what they do. It would be like half regular rich guy stuff and the other half were OnlyFans girls. Its like, "hey, you're driving a $300,000 car, what do you do?" Half the time its OnlyFans.
Soft porn....good grief...then everything you go to the beach you are surrounded by soft porn.
If Disney had a water park they would never make absurd requests to cover ones self
 
I was half joking in relation to SMF OnlyFan question but you would have to be naive to think this doesn't happen. One minute google search get this
The cheerleading team at Coastal Carolina University was suspended because some members allegedly set up an escort service through Seeking Arrangement,
About 4 million students are looking for generous partners — sugar daddies or sugar mommas — through dating site SeekingArrangements to help pay for some or part of their school bills. Of that, 62 percent, or 2.48 million, are students in the United States, according to the company.

So if students willing to do it openly pretty sure those university mixers between donors and students lead to some business dealings
 
Madden and other grumpy old men are idiots
Juju was always a team first guy and by all accounts a really solid human .
Fat man is jealous because athletes are having fun and building a brand -which fans love -
And he’s failed at everything so he just reaffirms idiotic takes by yinzers for a living
The sad ironic thing is that Madden basically does these "look at me takes" in an effort to stay relevant and build his brand. Which is really no different than what JuJu did.

And the fact that JuJu is thriving in KC, says more about the toxicity of the Steelers organization than JuJu being immature.
 
This doesn't quite fit here in this thread. Or does it? Just to show how far we have come. This used to be an actual ad for Delta Airlines.

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Soft porn....good grief...then everything you go to the beach you are surrounded by soft porn.
If Disney had a water park they would never make absurd requests to cover ones self
Yea, soft core porn is an exaggeration but posting thong and g-string pics, they arent far from that. My point was that they are making this money on IG because they are athletes. They are making money because they are IG models who also happen to play a sport.

Also, Disney does have a water park.
 
im not saying i have a porn addiction but i literally finished both youporn and pornhub. saw every single one and now im waiting for the sequels.
Well then, you've surely seen the clip where the guy's being serviced by his girlfriend, and over her shoulder the TV is tuned to a Pitt game???

The whole time, you see the PItt game, AND at the moment of truth, there is a full screen image of Paul Chryst getting interviewed!

Guess the guy was just trying to last longer!!!
 
I was half joking in relation to SMF OnlyFan question but you would have to be naive to think this doesn't happen. One minute google search get this
The cheerleading team at Coastal Carolina University was suspended because some members allegedly set up an escort service through Seeking Arrangement,
About 4 million students are looking for generous partners — sugar daddies or sugar mommas — through dating site SeekingArrangements to help pay for some or part of their school bills. Of that, 62 percent, or 2.48 million, are students in the United States, according to the company.

So if students willing to do it openly pretty sure those university mixers between donors and students lead to some business dealings
Could you imagine the money these girls could make if they put a live cam in the showers? Maybe that's the next step for those Wisconsin volleyball players.
 
Statistically and in every other category, playing a musical instrument leads to better grades and a more well-rounded, disciplined individual. Moreso than sports. But I doubt people would spend thousands in Panther Club money to see and support the Pitt Symphony (I doubt there is one) or the Pitt Marching Band in concert. Sports has its place and it can help develop discipline and teamwork in young men and women, depending on the sport. But in the grand scheme, sports contributes little and has little redeeming value to society. It's become too professional now, including collegiate, and the almighty dollar drives it.

A case could be made for sports like swimming and diving, tennis, golf, track and field as being character builders more than football or basketball. But those sports don't generate revenue and that's all that matters now.
Does playing a musical instrument lead to better grades and a more well-rounded disciplined individual or are intelligent, well rounded disciplined individuals more likely to play a musical instrument? Correlation does not mean causation.
 
To be fair (and Dunne mentions this), there are not professional sporting opportunities for many women athletes. Good for her for making bank while she can. And as for being scantily clad, her competition uniform makes her scantily clad. A true revolutionary coach would change that to long sleeves and leggings.
You make a great point because the uniform thing is interesting. Recall the last Olympics when one of the beach volleyball teams were reprimanded for wearing shorts instead of bathing suits? It's a constant source of stress in my house because the volleyball shorts don't leave a lot to the imagination. Mom and daughter go round and round about it.
 
This doesn't quite fit here in this thread. Or does it? Just to show how far we have come. This used to be an actual ad for Delta Airlines.

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not sure, i posted how attractive the stanford female ( i think) basketball players are and it was deleted. i hope your's lasts longer.
 
Yea, soft core porn is an exaggeration but posting thong and g-string pics, they arent far from that. My point was that they are making this money on IG because they are athletes. They are making money because they are IG models who also happen to play a sport.

Also, Disney does have a water park.
Wait people don't wear g strings and thongs to the beach or pool? Why are you so ashamed and afraid of the human body? Doesn't everyone want to be more like europe???? That's what I keep hearing in this country. Don't be a prude
 
Wait people don't wear g strings and thongs to the beach or pool? Why are you so ashamed and afraid of the human body? Doesn't everyone want to be more like europe???? That's what I keep hearing in this country. Don't be a prude
thank you, i wear a thong to the beach and i get shamed, ridiculed, sometimes even beat up and i just dont get it.. it's about time we normalize this
 
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Interesting. Stanford Hoops Coach Trish Van Devere thinks so. And my god, look at this girl from LSU she focused this on. Folks, I know we preach equality and such...but we also say "follow the science". Biology is a science. People are attracted to attractive people.

But your thoughts? I mean when you get down to it, the biggest female NIL deals are going to female athletes who can essentially be models or movie stars.

Well if you take a look at Trish Van Devere, you would understand why she’s bitter and feels like it’s unfair….



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Wait people don't wear g strings and thongs to the beach or pool? Why are you so ashamed and afraid of the human body? Doesn't everyone want to be more like europe???? That's what I keep hearing in this country. Don't be a prude
I didn't say there is anything wrong with it. I said the reason they are making this money is because they are soft core porn (exaggeration) IG models.
 
This doesn't quite fit here in this thread. Or does it? Just to show how far we have come. This used to be an actual ad for Delta Airlines.

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It’s certainly relevant in my book. Did these girls get the modeling job because of their high IQ’s? Do women love Brad Pitt because he’s a great actor or mainly because of his looks?

Just like the art you see at a museum, people want to see what’s pleasing to the eye.

The young gymnast has modeling potential beyond gymnastics. She is being paid accordingly…
 
I didn't say there is anything wrong with it. I said the reason they are making this money is because they are soft core porn (exaggeration) IG models.
was Sports Illustrated Bathing Suit editions "soft core porn?" I mean the good ones back in the day, not the fat pigs they put on there now..
 
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