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OT: Is NIL demeaning to women???

Madden and other grumpy old men are idiots
Juju was always a team first guy and by all accounts a really solid human .
Fat man is jealous because athletes are having fun and building a brand -which fans love -
And he’s failed at everything so he just reaffirms idiotic takes by yinzers for a living

Yeah, I never had a problem with Ju Ju. Obviously not a superstar, but a very solid contributor who you want on your team. Remember he had someone called the duck throwing to him for half a season. Madden's obsession with him was beyond pathetic.
 
The sad ironic thing is that Madden basically does these "look at me takes" in an effort to stay relevant and build his brand. Which is really no different than what JuJu did.

And the fact that JuJu is thriving in KC, says more about the toxicity of the Steelers organization than JuJu being immature.

Speaking of Madden, and this post about the attractiveness of athletes, reminds me of one of the few relevant things he said. A caller once asked when will soccer ever become more popular in the USA and he replied when the captains of the high school soccer team start banging the hottest cheerleader rather than the quarterback of the football team, then soccer will attract better athletes and become more popular.
 
Speaking of Madden, and this post about the attractiveness of athletes, reminds me of one of the few relevant things he said. A caller once asked when will soccer ever become more popular in the USA and he replied when the captains of the high school soccer team start banging the hottest cheerleader rather than the quarterback of the football team, then soccer will attract better athletes and become more popular.
That's rather crude and somewhat rude. But not so wrong.
 
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here's a little more in depth reporting about this

I honestly can't tell if people are mad the kids are making money selling their looks or if people are mad because they just can't just freely use the female athletes sexy likeness anymore. Don't be mistaken. That's some of what's going on here.
 
The sad ironic thing is that Madden basically does these "look at me takes" in an effort to stay relevant and build his brand. Which is really no different than what JuJu did.

And the fact that JuJu is thriving in KC, says more about the toxicity of the Steelers organization than JuJu being immature.
Nah /
It’s about him having a good qb throwing the ball .
Juju only had that for about 2.5 years of his time here .
He thrived , until Ben went dead arm- and still was Ben’s security blanket after moving to the slot and busting up his shoulder taking hits

JuJu is still doing videos and dances .
Hell Mahome’s brother is too .
 
Nah /
It’s about him having a good qb throwing the ball .
Juju only had that for about 2.5 years of his time here .
He thrived , until Ben went dead arm- and still was Ben’s security blanket after moving to the slot and busting up his shoulder taking hits
he was getting murdered every pass pattern he ran, in our "get rid of it in under 2.4 seconds" passing scheme... i mean everyone was but especially him. He was the guy we threw the quick slants too, the little 6 yard crossing patterns where the second he'd catch it, a safety, lb and cornerback were going to decapitate him..

I watch some KC games cause i have him in fantasy and he's finally getting some actual down field, vertical routes thrown to him. I wish we could have utilized him in this way here but obviously we dont have the Chiefs coaching, Qb and well anything good that they have going..
 
was Sports Illustrated Bathing Suit editions "soft core porn?" I mean the good ones back in the day, not the fat pigs they put on there now..
Soft core porn is an exaggeration like I said. I guess its how you define porn. Are gymnasts in g strings on IG porn? No one would categorize it as such. However, the reason they are making money posting such pictures and the reason the SI Swimsuit edition was so popular was because men want to see these scantily clad women. So there is a pornographic element to it.
 
he was getting murdered every pass pattern he ran, in our "get rid of it in under 2.4 seconds" passing scheme... i mean everyone was but especially him. He was the guy we threw the quick slants too, the little 6 yard crossing patterns where the second he'd catch it, a safety, lb and cornerback were going to decapitate him..

I watch some KC games cause i have him in fantasy and he's finally getting some actual down field, vertical routes thrown to him. I wish we could have utilized him in this way here but obviously we dont have the Chiefs coaching, Qb and well anything good that they have going..
A lot of guys got scapegoated for the Steelers in recent years of failure, and he was definitely one. I’m in a cocoon, not paying much attention to what happens in every NFL city (any but this one, really) so perhaps it is true everywhere but we definitely are unique in that the HC is largely immune (take it easy apologists, Cowher was mostly exempt as well). Nearly ALL the coaches were exempt as well, pretty much up to the last couple years, but now the coordinators at least get somewhat included (more the OC than DC), but there are definitely select players chosen to bear media brunt year by year. JJSS was certainly one. I definitely wish he were here for Pickett now, considering the other receivers are inconsistent hacks. Honestly they should convert Harris back to a slot receiver.
 
Nah /
It’s about him having a good qb throwing the ball .
Juju only had that for about 2.5 years of his time here .
He thrived , until Ben went dead arm- and still was Ben’s security blanket after moving to the slot and busting up his shoulder taking hits

JuJu is still doing videos and dances .
Hell Mahome’s brother is too .
Good QB. Good #1 WR. Good RB. Decent OL
 
i never understood steeler fans not liking Juju. yeah, he did silly tik toks but who cares, most of these players are mentail midgets with maturity levels of teenage girls. I dont recall him ever making the steelers look bad.

he is tough as nails, could catch, etc. just never understood it. i understand it with Chase "celebrate a first down even though you are losing" claypoole, and even Dionte with his drops. just dont get any disdain towards Ju Ju.
 
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i never understood steeler fans not liking Juju. yeah, he did silly tik toks but who cares, most of these players are mentail midgets with maturity levels of teenage girls. I dont recall him ever making the steelers look bad.

he is tough as nails, could catch, etc. just never understood it. i understand it with Chase "celebrate a first down even though you are losing" claypoole, and even Dionte with his drops. just dont get any disdain towards Ju Ju.
Pgh fans are sheep and the media got the green light to gaslight JJSS for whatever reason, so the sheep followed right along. His devastating block on Burfict amidst that guy’s reign of terror alone should have enshrined him with Steelers fans forever.
 
Pgh fans are sheep and the media got the green light to gaslight JJSS for whatever reason, so the sheep followed right along. His devastating block on Burfict amidst that guy’s reign of terror alone should have enshrined him with Steelers fans forever.
Bzzzzt. Wrong. THE MEDIA didn't, A MEDIA MEMBER did. One that appeals to the absolute lowest common denominator.
 
I didn't say there is anything wrong with it. I said the reason they are making this money is because they are soft core porn (exaggeration) IG models.
Ooh okay so soft porn isn't a derogatory term even though you used it that way
Got it
 
thank you, i wear a thong to the beach and i get shamed, ridiculed, sometimes even beat up and i just dont get it.. it's about time we normalize this
Yes and yes. When I wear my grape smuggler the scowls I get are horrendous. I don't need a razor dammit
 
Ooh okay so soft porn isn't a derogatory term even though you used it that way
Got it
Sure, its dergoatory I guess. I'm not sure what you are getting at. I used it to illustrate the point that these women are being paid for thong pictures.
 
here's a little more in depth reporting about this

But "peoples sexiest man alive" cover is just sooooo different....or the annual local fireman calendar.....how regressive
 
Bzzzzt. Wrong. THE MEDIA didn't, A MEDIA MEMBER did. One that appeals to the absolute lowest common denominator.
No no no bzzzt right back on you. The entire Pgh media turned on him, and they used was the harmless tik tok stuff, but really they had been signals that the Steelers weren’t going to take him back. Same thing happened with Conner. JJSS became the primary poster child for the bad passing game, whereas Conner became the poster child for the bad running game, because they needed scapegoats that didn’t include sacred cows. It’s the entire media, Madden (who is an obese buffoon that nobody with sense would even count as media).
 
This is cute.

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You're only being exploited if you're not complicit in the activity. Being attractive is like all other God given gifts. If you've been gifted in that area, you should maximize its potential to enhance your life.
Well, that’s completely false about only being exploited if you’re not complicit. People all the time get exploited with being complicit. But, I agree with you that in essence she is exploiting the system that doesn’t pay women’s sports by getting exploited herself. But she most likely was getting exploited before this and not getting paid. She is no more getting exploited than Jason momoa (sp?, and I never seen one of his movies) is. What is the difference? She is making good money and most likely getting an education in business from it. As long as the student is in control of deciding when a contract can be ended and allowed to say no to things she is uncomfortable with
 
Thanks. Confirms the fear. Pretty girl. Glad she’s leveraging this effectively. But to me gymnasts are a bit too young looking and thus disturbing to consider in… that way.
So, if a 25-year-old woman is 4-11, 85 pounds and looks 15, then you shouldn't think of her "that way" or you're disturbed?
 

The next Olivia Dunne?

Thing is, these girls are really just instagram "models" who also happen to be D1 athletes. They are being paid to based on their looks and to pose scantily clad. I dont think anyone thinks this is wrong. There is a huge market to pay 20 year old women who pose in thong bikinis. But I agree with what I think the Stanford coach means in that NIL really isnt paying many women for their athletic endeavors. Its paying them based on their looks. Not wrong. But not what I think a lot of people thought would happen.
 
That's just how it is. You can be an extremely stupid dipsh*t with a Youtube channel, getting one million views for your takes, while someone produces a high quality documentary and is lucky to get ten thousands views.

Let people earn the money, and then tax it on the back end to provide more equity for all in areas like healthcare and education.
They already do that. The top earning 1 % pay 38% of the federal taxes. Don’t believe me google it.
 

The next Olivia Dunne?

Thing is, these girls are really just instagram "models" who also happen to be D1 athletes. They are being paid to based on their looks and to pose scantily clad. I dont think anyone thinks this is wrong. There is a huge market to pay 20 year old women who pose in thong bikinis. But I agree with what I think the Stanford coach means in that NIL really isnt paying many women for their athletic endeavors. Its paying them based on their looks. Not wrong. But not what I think a lot of people thought would happen.
Especially something like gymnastics. Name one Pitt gymnast? Do we even have a team? This girl might be the worst gymnast on her team, but if she's better looking than the better gymnast on her team, she'll get the deal, just post University Gymnast next to her picture, nobody knows who they are anyways.
 
Especially something like gymnastics. Name one Pitt gymnast? Do we even have a team? This girl might be the worst gymnast on her team, but if she's better looking than the better gymnast on her team, she'll get the deal, just post University Gymnast next to her picture, nobody knows who they are anyways.

Well, yea, the worst gymnast on the team will make more than the best, who may be an All-American if the worst one is super attractive. And again, this is part of what the Stanford coach is saying and she's really not wrong for insinuating its demeaning to women because they are being paid for their looks as opposed to athletic achievements
 
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The next Olivia Dunne?

Thing is, these girls are really just instagram "models" who also happen to be D1 athletes. They are being paid to based on their looks and to pose scantily clad. I dont think anyone thinks this is wrong. There is a huge market to pay 20 year old women who pose in thong bikinis. But I agree with what I think the Stanford coach means in that NIL really isnt paying many women for their athletic endeavors. Its paying them based on their looks. Not wrong. But not what I think a lot of people thought would happen.
I didn’t really read what you wrote but I thank you to the depths of…my soul and other things…that you made me aware of this … “athlete”.

Seriously, as far as your question, the answer Is obvious. Nobody cares about those sports, nobody. The government forced universities to offer them to counter the men’s revenue sports that people do care about. It’s just how it is. So the only appeal for NIL purposes will come from their looks.

It’s not to say there aren’t male athletes popular for their looks as well. My wife really doesn’t care about football and especially not teams other than the Steelers, but loves Jimmy Garropolo, and guess why. But besides looks, he also has general popularity as a decent NFL QB. People are generally aware of his sports accomplishments. He likely would have followers even if he had the face of Big Ben. Conversely I will never, ever, ever be aware of Andreaa Whozit’s swimming records but will certainly be on the lookout for more pictorals, I mean, journalistic articles about her in the future.

Thanks again for noting her. Good heavens. What a spectacular human.
 
Well, yea, the worst gymnast on the team will make more than the best, who may be an All-American if the worst one is super attractive. And again, this is part of what the Stanford coach is saying and she's really not wrong for insinuating its demeaning to women because they are being paid for their looks as opposed to athletic achievements
That's how it is, Lizzo can dance naked all she wants, but that's not changing the values of the superficial male :)
 

The next Olivia Dunne?

Thing is, these girls are really just instagram "models" who also happen to be D1 athletes. They are being paid to based on their looks and to pose scantily clad. I dont think anyone thinks this is wrong. There is a huge market to pay 20 year old women who pose in thong bikinis. But I agree with what I think the Stanford coach means in that NIL really isnt paying many women for their athletic endeavors. Its paying them based on their looks. Not wrong. But not what I think a lot of people thought would happen.
Well livvy is literally doing commercials now for the brand paying her
Like I said above - their return on investment in her is far greater than any other nil deal
 
You're only being exploited if you're not complicit in the activity. Being attractive is like all other God given gifts. If you've been gifted in that area, you should maximize its potential to enhance your life.
If I were judged on my looks I would have paid the company. But to pay this chick because she's fission hot demeans all women. Just ask any homely teammate.
 
They already do that. The top earning 1 % pay 38% of the federal taxes. Don’t believe me google it.

The top 40 billionaires pay less in taxes than then top 1%, but when all taxes are taken into account, the average earner's tax percentage isn't than different that the top 10%.

And taxes should be progressive. We have people who think that they should exactly the same, which is asinine.
 
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The next Olivia Dunne?

Thing is, these girls are really just instagram "models" who also happen to be D1 athletes. They are being paid to based on their looks and to pose scantily clad. I dont think anyone thinks this is wrong. There is a huge market to pay 20 year old women who pose in thong bikinis. But I agree with what I think the Stanford coach means in that NIL really isnt paying many women for their athletic endeavors. Its paying them based on their looks. Not wrong. But not what I think a lot of people thought would happen.
Since when has NIL ever been about athletic endeavors?
 
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