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OT: Leicester city wins premiere league title

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pretty amazing. Probably one of the greatest upsets in sports history. For context, would be kind of like if RMU won the national title.
 
pretty amazing. Probably one of the greatest upsets in sports history. For context, would be kind of like if RMU won the national title.
!st time in their 132 year history, or something like that. And they came back from relegation several years ago. Pretty remarkable stuff.
 
A very cool story, and it's been fun seeing how hard their fans are celebrating.
 
They ran out of team merchandise to sell. The teams and Nike forecast and produce what they expect to sell prior to the season opening. With the unexpected success they ran thru the stuff quickly.
I like Manchester United. I visited the UK a lot on business and loved going to the pubs and watching the games with the local fans.
One thing I noticed the UK locals watch the games at local pubs which aren't like the sports bars in the US no discounts or $ 3.00 beer specials /full price in the UK.
 
pretty amazing. Probably one of the greatest upsets in sports history. For context, would be kind of like if RMU won the national title.

Probably the most improbable major pro sports championship in our lifetime. Look for the Hollywood movie in 10 years.

RMU is too much of a stretch though. Using college basketball, I'd say its more like if George Mason or Butler won the NC but even then, in college basketball team, the best team rarely wins the NC.

In football, I'd say it would be like if Western Kentucky won the National Championship, not long after moving up a Division as Leicester did.
 
Some guy from Thailand purchased the team for like $ 57 mill.
Prior to the game given they win the estimate was he'd pull in over $ 150 mill. in the short term.
Nice investment!
 
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RMU is too much of a stretch though. Using college basketball, I'd say its more like if George Mason or Butler won the NC but even then, in college basketball team, the best team rarely wins the NC.

Once again you and the facts aren't particularly well acquainted. In their good years George Mason and Butler were no where close to 5,000-1 to win the national championship. They wouldn't have even been 1/10 of that.

In fact to put it into proper perspective for you, on the futures board right now Butler, with no where close to a team as good as their Final Four teams, is currently 100-1 to win the championship. Right now Boston College is 2,000-1. So are teams like IPFW, Cal-Bakersfield, Louisiana-Monroe and Weber State. Robert Morris isn't listed, but 5,000-1 would probably be in the ball park.
 
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pretty amazing. Probably one of the greatest upsets in sports history. For context, would be kind of like if RMU won the national title.
Probably more like the Browns winning the Super Bowl. They are after all a team in one of the best 2-3 leagues in the world, I'm sure they have quality players.
 
Once again you and the facts aren't particularly well acquainted. In their good years George Mason and Butler were no where close to 5,000-1 to win the national championship. They wouldn't have even been 1/10 of that.

In fact to put it into proper perspective for you, on the futures board right now Butler, with no where close to a team as good as their Final Four teams, is currently 100-1 to win the championship. Right now Boston College is 2,000-1. So are teams like IPFW, Cal-Bakersfield, Louisiana-Monroe and Weber State. Robert Morris isn't listed, but 5,000-1 would probably be in the ball park.

Honestly, I'm not sure there is even a good comparison. Maybe if you took a AAA baseball team, kept them on on AAA budget, and they moved up to the majors and won the World Series.
 
Probably more like the Browns winning the Super Bowl. They are after all a team in one of the best 2-3 leagues in the world, I'm sure they have quality players.

Well of course they do, but given that the premier league has basically only ever been won by teams like Chelsea, the Manchester teams, etc, the idea of a team that was in the third division of the English football tier I think 5 years ago winning the premier league was an absurd notion.
 
Adam "I'm not a PSU homer" Bittner tried to make a similar comparison about PSU basketball last night. It doesn't make sense. Betting odds are way different than statistical odds. Book makers do long odds to lure sucker bets. British book makers are notoriously over the top that way.

This soccer team finished 14th last season. That's more similar to Oakland winning the Super Bowl next year in a league where you had two or three really dominate teams heading into the season. Of course NFL betting odds almost never go there because they're smarter than that.
 
QUOTE="Pittguy1980, post: 1269735, member: 37827"]Well of course they do, but given that the premier league has basically only ever been won by teams like Chelsea, the Manchester teams, etc, the idea of a team that was in the third division of the English football tier I think 5 years ago winning the premier league was an absurd notion.[/QUOTE]

This team is kind of a parallel to Chelsea and Man City too right? I think those teams where basically garbage too, before being bought by foreign billionaires.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_football_champions#Total_titles_won

Chelsea has won 5, Man City 4, but most of these in the recent years (2000 and later). Man U has 20, Liverpool 18 (none since '89).
 
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This is truly a hard accomplishment to compare. Maybe Mike Tyson in his prime getting knocked out by a 10 year old. It's really that remarkable when you consider the teams that are absolutely loaded with talent.
 
This is truly a hard accomplishment to compare. Maybe Mike Tyson in his prime getting knocked out by a 10 year old. It's really that remarkable when you consider the teams that are absolutely loaded with talent.

NO, you act like LC's roster is full of slugs, that's just ridiculous.
 
Once again you and the facts aren't particularly well acquainted. In their good years George Mason and Butler were no where close to 5,000-1 to win the national championship. They wouldn't have even been 1/10 of that.

In fact to put it into proper perspective for you, on the futures board right now Butler, with no where close to a team as good as their Final Four teams, is currently 100-1 to win the championship. Right now Boston College is 2,000-1. So are teams like IPFW, Cal-Bakersfield, Louisiana-Monroe and Weber State. Robert Morris isn't listed, but 5,000-1 would probably be in the ball park.

I would say that BEFORE the season, George Mason would have been 5000 to 1 to win it all in their FF year.
 
I say YES, the NFL has a draft, so they assume there is more parity, so for the NFL, the Browns are probably comparable to LC.

No. The NFL has a salary cap and a draft where the worst teams get to pick first. The goal of the league is parity. The EPL is 100% the opposite of that. You cannot compare Leicester to the NFL. Maybe compare them to if Alabama moved up to the NFL and won the Super Bowl. That would be closer than the Browns.

The best comparison, which someone already said is a AAA team moving up to the majors and winning the World Series.
 
No. The NFL has a salary cap and a draft where the worst teams get to pick first. The goal of the league is parity. The EPL is 100% the opposite of that. You cannot compare Leicester to the NFL. Maybe compare them to if Alabama moved up to the NFL and won the Super Bowl. That would be closer than the Browns.

The best comparison, which someone already said is a AAA team moving up to the majors and winning the World Series.

But YES YOU CAN say that LC is to the EPL what the Browns are to the NFL, the longest long shot, with no championship history.
 
But YES YOU CAN say that LC is to the EPL what the Browns are to the NFL, the longest long shot, with no championship history.

The Browns never got relegated to the arena league or CFL. The NFL doesn't have have a history of only 5 teams winning the Super Bowl.

It is far far far more implausible.
 
1st off, there's no relegation in American sports, 2ndly, TWENTY FOUR different teams have won the EPL Championship, not 5.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_football_champions#Total_titles_won

No, 5 teams have won the premier league in its 25 year existence. Now 6 with Leicester.

And I mean, if you want to use back to 1888 as your sample, 24 teams is still a very small set of teams.

Again, this is nothing like the Browns winning a super bowl. That really shows a basic lack of understanding of the English football pyramid on your end if you truly believe that.

Put it this way. 47 teams have played in the premier league since 1992. Six winners. 19 different NFL teams have won the Super Bowl, so over 60% of the league.
 
No, 5 teams have won the premier league in its 25 year existence. Now 6 with Leicester.

And I mean, if you want to use back to 1888 as your sample, 24 teams is still a very small set of teams.

Again, this is nothing like the Browns winning a super bowl. That really shows a basic lack of understanding of the English football pyramid on your end if you truly believe that.

Put it this way. 47 teams have played in the premier league since 1992. Six winners. 19 different NFL teams have won the Super Bowl, so over 60% of the league.

Also, if you look at the last 25 years, teams just don't win other than Man U,Chelsea, arsenal, and just recently man city. It is probably the most top heavy system for big money clubs, even worse than baseball.
 
It's really scary how much some of you guys know about British soccer.

Don't read the thread if you don't like it? I'm not one to criticize people that don't like soccer. That is their choice. However, it is the most popular sport in the world, and a great sport at that, IMO.
 
So who decided we start in 1992? I said "in history". 28 teams have won NFL titles and 24 have won England's top soccer, D1 or EPL or whatever you want to call it. It's funny, you're even leaving out Liverpool! That's like leaving out the Chicago Bears because they only won 1 Super Bowl.
 
79, the Premier League has only been in existence since 1992-93. Leicester is indeed only the 6th different team to win it. You are confusing Premier League champion with the championship of English football. They are not exactly the same thing.
 
So who decided we start in 1992? I said "in history". 28 teams have won NFL titles and 24 have won England's top soccer, D1 or EPL or whatever you want to call it. It's funny, you're even leaving out Liverpool! That's like leaving out the Chicago Bears because they only won 1 Super Bowl.

Ok, you proved my point. Almost every NFL team has won a title, including the Browns. How many of the English football clubs have won a top flight title?
 
79, the Premier League has only been in existence since 1992-93. Leicester is indeed only the 6th different team to win it. You are confusing Premier League champion with the championship of English football. They are not exactly the same thing.

Counting top flight titles from 1930 is kind of the same as saying Pitt has won 9 national championships. It's nice, but not relevant to the discussion. Man U has won half the titles in the premiere league. It is a league that is extremely brutal to win if you aren't one of the top teams. Even teams like Liverpool, Everton, and Tottenham have never won it.
 
That's great. But also the Royals won the World Series last year, and the Pirates had the 2nd best record. For 20 years both franchises were essentially glorified AAA franchises and run like they were.

So it is a great story and accomplishment, but it is not impossible. Some of you buy way too much into EPL hype. You need to get out, drive a pick up around, listen to Toby Keith, eat a hamburger, drink a Bud and vote for Trump. You are losing your American status.
 
Ok, you proved my point. Almost every NFL team has won a title, including the Browns. How many of the English football clubs have won a top flight title?

24, just because they changed the name of the league in 1992, doesn't mean that in pre-'92 England didn't have a "top flight" league.
 
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It's really scary how much some of you guys know about British soccer.

I actually like soccer now, more than ever. But I prefer watching the MLS. I've become a DC United fan because I get their local broadcasts on my cable channels. And even though the "quality of play" is lesser than EPL or La Liga, I just like having a team to easily follow- like getting their games on TV at a decent time, can't stand the idea of getting up at 7:00 am Saturday and watching a game between cities I've never heard of or can't relate to(lol), and find it easier to relate to DC vs. LA or DC vs. NY or Chicago vs. Seattle.
 
I actually like soccer now, more than ever. But I prefer watching the MLS. I've become a DC United fan because I get their local broadcasts on my cable channels. And even though the "quality of play" is lesser than EPL or La Liga, I just like having a team to easily follow- like getting their games on TV at a decent time, can't stand the idea of getting up at 7:00 am Saturday and watching a game (lol), and find it easier to relate to DC vs. LA or DC vs. NY or Chicago vs. Seattle.

I hear you there. It is tough not having a fixed team to follow. If Pittsburgh had an mls team I would be there on a regular basis.
 
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