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OT: Over Under for Pirate Losses

My OP predicting 120 losses was admittedly over the top as I was simply making a case for how bad this team will be this year. They may not be '62 Mets bad but are how far way are they from the 2003 Tigers or the 2018 Orioles?

Most Major League Baseball (MLB) Season Losses
  1. Cleveland Spiders - 1899 - 134.
  2. New York Mets - 1962 - 120.
  3. Detroit Tigers - 2003 - 119.
  4. Philadelphia Athletics - 1916 - 117.
  5. Baltimore Orioles - 2018 - 115.
  6. Boston Braves - 1935 - 115.
  7. Washington Senators - 1904 - 113.
  8. Pittsburg Alleghenys - 1890 - 113.

The 1952 Pittsburgh Pirates (112 losses) would be next on that list. (How does Jacob Stallings stack up against Joe Garagiola?)
 
I saw at least one place that opened the Pirates at 71.5, but that was before the Marte trade and that number had already been trending downward.


I can still get it at 71.5. May throw some money on the under but it's a long time to have part of your working balance tied up in a single bet.
 
Losing 120 is ridiculous...their triple A team would have a hard time losing that many.

They'll stink and finish the year with something like 96-98 losses. Terrible / dead last but nothing outlandish.
 
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He’s awful but yes, the fact that I root for the opposing pitcher to actuelly throw at his head every time he’s at bat is due largely to his father.

If his dad wasn’t who he is, I’d simply shake my head seeing him as our starting catcher but would not root for a bean ball.

Stallings isn't even awful. He had a surprisingly decent year last year. He isn't a star and at 30, doesn't have upside, but the Pirates have had way worse at catcher. Heck Diaz was worse last year alone. Ideally Stallings is a backup catcher, PH, bench player, but he isn't the reason this team fails.

3B is a waaay bigger black hole for them this year as long as Moran is there.
 
I thought you invented something we use every day but you cannot tell us about?...how soon they forget.
You've already use it, if not you, your parents 100% have used it and still do.
 
I can still get it at 71.5. May throw some money on the under but it's a long time to have part of your working balance tied up in a single bet.

Nice, see a couple places still at 70.5 in Vegas, but the 71’s and higher are gone.
 
I've worked for a company that supported government (state) agencies.

The government employees are the laziest people on earth!
You've never been where I work, so you don't know anything about what we do.

And even if that's true, just think about how we make $ix figure salaries and have 6 weeks paid vacation, 24 sick days, IT'$ GREAT, I LOVE IT!
 
How old are you if you don't mind me asking?

Or how old are your parents?

Are they retired or still working?
55 at the end of this month...parents gone, mom just died at 98...still working myself...there, my life story.

Now, what did your invent?
 
55 at the end of this month...parents gone, mom just died at 98...still working myself...there, my life story.

Now, what did your invent?
I never said I personally invented anything, I said I was a project manager for IT and helped develop, test and implement online applications that everyone in the USA will use in their lifetime, especially if the reach age 62 or 65 or become disabled and unable to work.
 
I've worked for a company that supported government (state) agencies.

The government employees are the laziest people on earth!
On earth and beyond.
They cant be fired unless they commit some terrible crime or maybe murder a few people on the job.

Due to the work environment they have zero incentive to work hard, produce high quality work or innovate so its as slow as you can go and who cares what goes wrong.

Our neighborhood has a postal worker who I guess cant match house numbers with mail since we all get
eachothers mail a lot.

We met with the regional post master, even contacted people in Harrisburg.
Its really hard to get a government employee fired!

Call the USPS 800 and see how long the wait times are. At times its over 1 hr??
 
On earth and beyond.
They cant be fired unless they commit some terrible crime or maybe murder a few people on the job.

Due to the work environment they have zero incentive to work hard, produce high quality work or innovate so its as slow as you can go and who cares what goes wrong.

Our neighborhood has a postal worker who I guess cant match house numbers with mail since we all get
eachothers mail a lot.

We met with the regional post master, even contacted people in Harrisburg.
Its really hard to get a government employee fired!

Call the USPS 800 and see how long the wait times are. At times its over 1 hr??

Your postal worker is probably a part-timer with no benefits and the call center is contracted out to a private company who is also sourcing and it's all at the lowest bid price. That's what the government looks like now.
 
Your postal worker is probably a part-timer with no benefits and the call center is contracted out to a private company who is also sourcing and it's all at the lowest bid price. That's what the government looks like now.
No, not really, that's not exactly what government looks like now, LOL
 
You're not going to show me too many situations at the lower levels that look different. Even space force is outsourced.
No you're wrong, in most agencies, the employees are feds. things like janitors and cafeteria work are typically outsourced. I work in IT, where I'm at we might have 6000 employees, sure, maybe 500 are contractors. and probably of the 500, 480 are killing themselves trying to become one of the 5500 with a permanent government job, and the other 20 are the ambitious types who'd rather get to the upper level of the private company because their goal is max money, 19 of those probably fail and bounce around with temp gigs forever.
 
No you're wrong, in most agencies, the employees are feds. things like janitors and cafeteria work are typically outsourced. I work in IT, where I'm at we might have 6000 employees, sure, maybe 500 are contractors. and probably of the 500, 480 are killing themselves trying to become one of the 5500 with a permanent government job, and the other 20 are the ambitious types who'd rather get to the upper level of the private company because their goal is max money, 19 of those probably fail and bounce around with temp gigs forever.

You just said the same thing I did. Just took more words.
 
You just said the same thing I did. Just took more words.
Just as long as you admit that the contract employees are the minority and a small part of the workforce. You tried to make it sound like the majority was outsourced nd that's not even close.
 
Just as long as you admit that the contract employees are the minority and a small part of the workforce. You tried to make it sound like the majority was outsourced nd that's not even close.

Ummm...you might want to check on those numbers. It's not even close. Like twice as many contracted employees as federal employees and rising. Especially if the current administration gets its way.
 
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Ummm...you might want to check on those numbers. It's not even close. Like twice as many contracted employees as federal employees and rising. Especially if the current administration gets its way.
Maybe it depends on the agency and what you are counting as federal jobs.
 
I thought you invented something we use every day but you cannot tell us about?...how soon they forget.
Staples. He's now working on a way to use them.
 
The person that invented staples probably became rich on that, not something to make light of. :)

I wish I could remember who it was, but the Steelers at one time had a player who was the son of the woman who invented white-out (liquid paper).
 
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