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OT: Pirates Ke'Bryan Hayes a bust?

False.

Disappointing =\= bust.
I think he’s on the border of bust and disappointing if he never has a productive season again. He’s put in some good work, has won gold gloves but really has only had one solid season/half season at the plate. There just hasn’t been any longevity due to the injury. So yeah. Probably not a bust. But maybe a couple zip codes away.
 
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To me, bust means never made MLB.

But that’s me. What do I know?
He is the probably among the 10-15 most productive players from his draft class of 2015.

10 or 12 of the 34 guys drafted before him either never made it to the majors or got just a cup of coffee.

Anyways I tried to make the same exact point as you did to our friend poker approximately 670 days and 21 pages ago and he didn’t listen to me then so I don’t think he’s going to change his tune now
 
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He is the probably among the 10-15 most productive players from his draft class of 2015.

10 or 12 of the 34 guys drafted before him either never made it to the majors or got just a cup of coffee.

Anyways I tried to make the same exact point as you did to our friend poker approximately 670 days and 21 pages ago and he didn’t listen to me then so I don’t think he’s going to change his tune now


Hayes was the 32nd pick in the draft. Of the 31 players picked ahead of him, five of them have more career WAR than Hayes does at this point. All of them were selected in the first nine picks of the draft.

I mean Hayes was a supplemental round pick that year. The Pirates "actual" first round pick that year was Kevin Newman. Newman so far has a career WAR of 4.9. If you are going call a Pirate draft pick a bust, Hayes isn't even the bust of his own Pirate's draft.

Of the 31 guys drafted ahead of Hayes that season, seven of them still haven't played a game in the majors and nine of them have career WARs of 0.3 or worse. That's 16 of the 31 players who, so far, have been essentially worthless.

In short, the only way you can call Hayes a bust is if you have no idea, literally none, what that term actually means.
 
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From the Post-Gazette:

"third baseman Ke’Bryan Hayes, this little nugget from the Post-Gazette’s Andrew Destin appeared: “As he has said publicly before, Hayes acknowledged that his lower-back issues will likely linger for the rest of his career and life.”

That’s comforting. Dude is a bust.
 
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From the Post-Gazette:

"third baseman Ke’Bryan Hayes, this little nugget from the Post-Gazette’s Andrew Destin appeared: “As he has said publicly before, Hayes acknowledged that his lower-back issues will likely linger for the rest of his career and life.”

That’s comforting. Dude is a bust.
Nope. As @Joe the Panther Fan just pointed out, there’s no way you can realistically call him a bust.
 
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From the Post-Gazette:

"third baseman Ke’Bryan Hayes, this little nugget from the Post-Gazette’s Andrew Destin appeared: “As he has said publicly before, Hayes acknowledged that his lower-back issues will likely linger for the rest of his career and life.”

That’s comforting. Dude is a bust.


The best part about that "little nugget" is Joe Starkey writing that today, essentially admitting that he has paid no attention to what has gone on in the past, like as if this is some damning piece of new information.
 
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