OT: Pirates
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There is a better chance of Pitt running the table and making the NC game than their is that Bob Nothing er Nutting pays to put together a WS team
That thread would be more entertaining than another Succo post.
And I am sure people here are far more willing to support the people in that uniform too
You’re right. I don’t drink the Nuttimg Koolaide Carry on and tell us how the pirates are a legitimate contender
They aren’t a legit contender, not even close. Still. Rooting for them. Pitt football and hoops aren’t even close to being contenders, still root for them too.
Impossible
I think we should protest all things which aren’t winning championships!
But that's a false equivalence. If you want to compare the Pirates to Pitt making an eight team playoff then the equivalent isn't the World Series, it's making the playoffs. Not the wild card playoffs, the real playoffs. Would you be confident of Pitt making an eight team playoff before the Pirates make the MLB playoffs? Maybe you would, but I wouldn't.
Add in the fact that college football is playing on an even competitive field where baseball is not. Pitt football has as many scholarships as Alabama, can not pay them anymore (by the rules) than any sec school. Pirates payroll is a 1/3 of some of the larger market teams.
With all of this, the Pirates making the series is still far more likely to happen vs pitt making a playoff.
We will literally start two dozen threads on this board over the next six months that will categorize all of the reasons why Pitt can never compete on the same level with Alabama because of the differences in the two programs.
Best Baseball Stadiums in the US
# 5 baseball stadium in the US is reason enough to attend some games.
PNC Park is one of the most comfortable, great game viewing angles for all points of the park and how can you beat the view and scenary.
Good public transportation and general access is a plus.
Make Nuttin/The Pirates Great Again!
- Fenway Park.
- Wrigley Field.
- Safeco Field.
- Busch Stadium.
- PNC Park.
# 5 baseball stadium in the US is reason enough to attend some games.
PNC Park is one of the most comfortable, great game viewing angles for all points of the park and how can you beat the view and scenary.
Good public transportation and general access is a plus.
Make Nuttin/The Pirates Great Again!
Wow, watching the opener and the Pirates are playing defense like a T ball team!
Moran is a butcher at 3rd, the new SS has booted a couple, Bell muffs a pop foul, WP's,
now a 4 hour game with neither team wanting to win it!
Sure glad they put in those new rules to speed the game up!
Moran is a butcher at 3rd, the new SS has booted a couple, Bell muffs a pop foul, WP's,
now a 4 hour game with neither team wanting to win it!
Sure glad they put in those new rules to speed the game up!
LOLOLOLOL. I guess I don't root for them to lose, I mean they are my team who I grew up with and I get caught up in the moment like anyone. But I also take this perverse joy of seeing them stumble, bumble and blow games like this.
They may win or lose on the field, but Nutting’s Wallet ALWAYS wins.
Their fielding , marginal Bush League and that’s being kind.
Don’t care what the loud mouthed Saber Geniuses try to peddle, you get what you pay for........
Don’t care what the loud mouthed Saber Geniuses try to peddle, you get what you pay for........
Paul, just imagine way back when, when the Pirates had that 98 win season, guys like Polanco, Bell, Glasnow, they could have landed Giancarlo Stanton or a Chris Sale, and possibly won a title. But they couldn't give up on prospects. Well.....how are those prospects doing?
Thus my question. Does Pittsburgh have a major league team?
On a more serious note for sure the major issue with the Pirates is the self imposed draconian budget Nutting provides
However one has to question NHs ability to acquire talent through trades.
Compare his results to EJs with the Pens. It’s not even close in terms of his success rate in adding talent that improves the team
Would it have really set them back to resign mercer? Or at least another quality ss? They could have just kept mercer a couple more years til tucker gets here.just another cheap as# deal on their part.
You’re spot on
But to coin a phrase...it is what it is
I try to ignore Nutmeg and root for the Bucs, but if theyvcan’t even field balls in play better than 12 yr olds I’m not going to be able to watch
Sad
That’s a bingo
Just pathetic....
What are all those Saber Geniuses Neal hired...sitting on their nuts playing Fortnight??
You’re spot on about the fielding I’ve been watching baseball since age 5 I’ve never seen balls in play so absolutely hacked. Top flight Little League teams look better.
This is just ridiculous.
Boy I’m so glad I wasted all that time reading here all those goofy metrics the Saber guys were blowing out their arse while telling everybody else they were stupid.
Because the past two yrs were real validation of their BS
What list has PNC Park at #5? PNC Park is usually #1 or #2 with the San Francisco Giants Park at #1 or #2. Also, all of the "improvements" the Cubs owners have been making to Wrigley Field has caused it to loose some of its charm.
In fairness, both teams struggled mightily. Probably something to do with playing in 37 degree weather. Anyone who has played in the cold understand it is pretty hard to be at your best in the field or at bat.
Pitchers struggled with their control, fielders had difficulty catching the ball, hitters off, lots of K's.
Hopefully it will warm up soon and we'll have a better idea of what we have. So far, 2 games out of 3 have been in Winter conditions.
Baseball started earlier than ever. Always wondered why the scheduling geniuses don't put the majority of these early games in the warm weather venues or in the domed stadiums?
Most of the sellout crowd froze out yesterday. Only were there for about half of it. By the last out, only about 1/3 of those in attendance were still there. (Good thing for the 2/3 who left and didn't have to watch the collapse.)
Pitchers struggled with their control, fielders had difficulty catching the ball, hitters off, lots of K's.
Hopefully it will warm up soon and we'll have a better idea of what we have. So far, 2 games out of 3 have been in Winter conditions.
Baseball started earlier than ever. Always wondered why the scheduling geniuses don't put the majority of these early games in the warm weather venues or in the domed stadiums?
Most of the sellout crowd froze out yesterday. Only were there for about half of it. By the last out, only about 1/3 of those in attendance were still there. (Good thing for the 2/3 who left and didn't have to watch the collapse.)
well I hate people who rush to judgement so with that said, I gave a full game for our SS to prove his worth and well, im ready to move on.. my man cant field, run the bases or hit, a true tri fecta of ineptness..
We couldn't have given Mercer 6-7m to stay one more year til Tucker was ready?
We couldn't have given Mercer 6-7m to stay one more year til Tucker was ready?
Agree
Also like SD very much....
As for Wrigley they’ve gone over board.
Should have played at White Sox for 2 yrs, razed Wrigley and built a modern Stadium w the quaintness of the original...
Those huge scoreboards are atrocious....and no way , no how in 2019 would I want to sit behind freaking poles. Poles !!!!
Very bad choice imo.
People just hammer the "Nutting's Wallet" angle and rightfully so. But there is so much more than this to what ails this franchise. Their drafting and scouting has been largely horrendous. Last year someone did some study where the Pirates ranked near the bottom of games started by homegrown players, or something like that.
Sure...when they are drafting in the top 5, they got some players. They did well with Cutch and Walker, but that was a previous regime.
Let's look at the BMTIS's draft's.
2018: 10th overall Travis Swaggerty. Haven't heard his name mentioned since he was drafed. 26th overall, Gunner Hogland. Unsigned. And so it goes.
2017: 12th overall, Shane Baz. Traded. 42nd overall Steven Jennings. ??
2016: 22nd overall, Will Craig (not exactly lighting it up) 41st overall, Nick Lodolo, unsigned (and so it goes again).
2015: 19th overall, Kevin Newman (I will bet $100 this guy never is a MLB regular) 32nd overall, Ke'Bryan Hayes. OKay, this looks like a great pick.
2014: 24th overall Cole Tucker (maybe has a shot) 39th overall Connor Joe (is he on anyone's radar?) 61st overall Mitch Keller, YAY...that's 2.
2013: 9th overall Austin Meadows (traded but looks like a player) 14th overall Reese McGuire (traded to save money and still not a good prospect)
2012: 8th overall, Mark Appel (never signed and one of baseball's biggest busts), 45th Barrett Barnes (who??)
2011: Garrit Cole. OK, a monkey could have made this pick. Josh Bell, been a disappointment.
2010: 2nd overall Jameson Taillon (good pick, but again a monkey could have made this and Manny Machado would have been a better pick) 52 overall Stetson Allie (next?).
Yikes. Just horrible. You can go on the cheap, if you draft, sign and develop your own talent. But the Pirates frankly haven't. And this group in charge got an extension. Just horrible. So it isn't just being cheap, it is also being bad at your jobs by management.
Sure...when they are drafting in the top 5, they got some players. They did well with Cutch and Walker, but that was a previous regime.
Let's look at the BMTIS's draft's.
2018: 10th overall Travis Swaggerty. Haven't heard his name mentioned since he was drafed. 26th overall, Gunner Hogland. Unsigned. And so it goes.
2017: 12th overall, Shane Baz. Traded. 42nd overall Steven Jennings. ??
2016: 22nd overall, Will Craig (not exactly lighting it up) 41st overall, Nick Lodolo, unsigned (and so it goes again).
2015: 19th overall, Kevin Newman (I will bet $100 this guy never is a MLB regular) 32nd overall, Ke'Bryan Hayes. OKay, this looks like a great pick.
2014: 24th overall Cole Tucker (maybe has a shot) 39th overall Connor Joe (is he on anyone's radar?) 61st overall Mitch Keller, YAY...that's 2.
2013: 9th overall Austin Meadows (traded but looks like a player) 14th overall Reese McGuire (traded to save money and still not a good prospect)
2012: 8th overall, Mark Appel (never signed and one of baseball's biggest busts), 45th Barrett Barnes (who??)
2011: Garrit Cole. OK, a monkey could have made this pick. Josh Bell, been a disappointment.
2010: 2nd overall Jameson Taillon (good pick, but again a monkey could have made this and Manny Machado would have been a better pick) 52 overall Stetson Allie (next?).
Yikes. Just horrible. You can go on the cheap, if you draft, sign and develop your own talent. But the Pirates frankly haven't. And this group in charge got an extension. Just horrible. So it isn't just being cheap, it is also being bad at your jobs by management.
It's probably easier to build around superstars. EJ has that luxury because the Pens chose to pay the money for theirs. The Pirates made excuses and let their guys walk.
The Pirates have also drafted to stay away from higher priced guys with good agents.
Interesting work there.
Not as complex but what about the development of guys like Matre, Polanco, Bell and all these arms the Saber Geniuses promised would be here.
The development in the Majors is C or C-, a real killer imo.
