Penn State to release Populous study results

[Sean Miller Fan]

On March 13. Populous did a 16 month study for them and they are having a public release. I believe ours was a 12 month study. Anybody have any idea if they will release the results? It seems counterproductive to have a press release that you are having the study but not publicly releasing the results.

Assuming there is either no stadium feasibility study or there is one that is determined unfeasible, I would have to believe Heinz Field and gameday atmosphere/making Heinz smaller fo Pitt games would be discussed at great lengths and I'm very interested to see what the findings are.

 

[ZetaZetaBeta]

Counting the days until Pitt's Populous Study is presented.

 

[PantherDave724]

Counting the days until Pitt's Populous Study is presented.

Me too

 

[Swervin27]

what is psu trying to do? I know they want to upgrade their stadium but would you hire a consulting firm for that? 16 month study sounds like an overkill to find out options to make your football stadium nicer. do they have other plans for facility upgrades?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

what is psu trying to do? I know they want to upgrade their stadium but would you hire a consulting firm for that? 16 month study sounds like an overkill to find out options to make your football stadium nicer. do they have other plans for facility upgrades?

I think so. They are looking at every sport.

 

[yourhired]

This is the same AD who oversaw the University California Stadium that was over budget and held up over a bird in the tree I believe. Sandy has a budget and she uses every penny of that budget.

 

[wbrpanther]

On March 13. Populous did a 16 month study for them and they are having a public release. I believe ours was a 12 month study. Anybody have any idea if they will release the results? It seems counterproductive to have a press release that you are having the study but not publicly releasing the results.

Assuming there is either no stadium feasibility study or there is one that is determined unfeasible, I would have to believe Heinz Field and gameday atmosphere/making Heinz smaller fo Pitt games would be discussed at great lengths and I'm very interested to see what the findings are.

What is a populous study and why hasn't ours been released yet? This darn University is always tardy in everything they do.

 

[HailToPitt725]

Counting the days until Pitt's Populous Study is presented.

When is ours supposed to be released? I'm interested to see what all it covers.

 

[21Guns.]

what is psu trying to do? I know they want to upgrade their stadium but would you hire a consulting firm for that? 16 month study sounds like an overkill to find out options to make your football stadium nicer. do they have other plans for facility upgrades?

It a complete athletic facilities master plan. While the stadium renovation is what everyone is anticipating it addressing needs of all facilities. The report will be released 3/13.

 

[Swervin27]

When is ours supposed to be released? I'm interested to see what all it covers.

lol, it's pitt, no info shall be released to anyone unless it's a must know situation. all things trivial must be kept under lock and key, hidden under the protection of pitt being a private institution. if I were you, I wouldn't expect to see any official release or info to the public..

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

When is ours supposed to be released? I'm interested to see what all it covers.

lol, it's pitt, no info shall be released to anyone unless it's a must know situation. all things trivial must be kept under lock and key, hidden under the protection of pitt being a private institution. if I were you, I wouldn't expect to see any official release or info to the public..

But then why the press release saying they are doing it? If they were keeping it private, there shouldn't have been a press release.

 

[Swervin27]

But then why the press release saying they are doing it? If they were keeping it private, there shouldn't have been a press release.

good point SMF, they did in fact release a pretty specific and informative release in June '16. Stated it is around a 9 month process so yeah, that's about now.

 

[Panthergrowl13]

They are just studying which parts of Heinz need to be tarped.

I think they will include the Upper End zone.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[HailToPitt725]

lol, it's pitt, no info shall be released to anyone unless it's a must know situation. all things trivial must be kept under lock and key, hidden under the protection of pitt being a private institution. if I were you, I wouldn't expect to see any official release or info to the public..

I think there would be a public release. At least that's how they've done it for the other master plans they've made for other P5 schools. But then again, we're not like the other P5 schools

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

what is psu trying to do?

Well obviously they are building a new stadium. After all, several people here, including people who are posting in this thread, have said that there is no way that a company like Populous is involved unless you are planning to build a new stadium/arena. So clearly, the nitters are tearing down the erector set and putting up a new stadium.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

what is psu trying to do?

Well obviously they are building a new stadium. After all, several people here, including people who are posting in this thread, have said that there is no way that a company like Populous is involved unless you are planning to build a new stadium/arena. So clearly, the nitters are tearing down the erector set and putting up a new stadium.

No, I think the point is that if you are Pitt and you have a colossal problem in regards to football gameday atmosphere, you dont hire Populous unless you are serious about a football stadium. If Populous says its not feasible (which would be like a home building company studying your lot and your finances and telling you they are sorry, the house you want is not feasible), they would offer alternative solutions with regards to Heinz.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

No, I think the point is that if you are Pitt and you have a colossal problem in regards to football gameday atmosphere, you dont hire Populous unless you are serious about a football stadium.

I have no doubt that you think that. Even after people have posted links to Populous projects that have nothing to do with large scale stadium or arena construction, even after the guy who runs this site said that he has been told that Populous is not designing a new stadium for Pitt, I have no doubt that you still think that the sole reason that Populous was hired was to build us a stadium.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

No, I think the point is that if you are Pitt and you have a colossal problem in regards to football gameday atmosphere, you dont hire Populous unless you are serious about a football stadium.

I have no doubt that you think that. Even after people have posted links to Populous projects that have nothing to do with large scale stadium or arena construction, even after the guy who runs this site said that he has been told that Populous is not designing a new stadium for Pitt, I have no doubt that you still think that the sole reason that Populous was hired was to build us a stadium.

Let me clarify. The primary purpose that they were hired was the stadium feasibility study with the intention of them projecting numbers that made it feasible. Otherwise, you dont need Populous to design an addition to a locker room for the wrestling team. Some intern can do that.

If Populous comes back and says a stadium will cost 10 trillion dollars, then they would recommend gameday/ticketing changes to Heinz. Having this study without the stadium situation being looked at is a giant waste of time and money.....but it was that idiot Barnea that commissioned it so i guess I shouldn't be too surprised if they are only studying locker rooms and whether they should buy a new balance beam for the gymnastics team.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

The primary purpose that they were hired was the stadium feasibility study with the intention of them projecting numbers that made it feasible.

And as I said, someone who talked to the people that actually know, as opposed to someone who just makes crap up to suit his agenda, says that is absolutely incorrect.

 

[Franb]

what is psu trying to do? I know they want to upgrade their stadium but would you hire a consulting firm for that? 16 month study sounds like an overkill to find out options to make your football stadium nicer. do they have other plans for facility upgrades?

They have to figure out where to put the statue.

 

[21Guns.]

Let me clarify. The primary purpose that they were hired was the stadium feasibility study with the intention of them projecting numbers that made it feasible. Otherwise, you dont need Populous to design an addition to a locker room for the wrestling team. Some intern can do that.

If Populous comes back and says a stadium will cost 10 trillion dollars, then they would recommend gameday/ticketing changes to Heinz. Having this study without the stadium situation being looked at is a giant waste of time and money.....but it was that idiot Barnea that commissioned it so i guess I shouldn't be too surprised if they are only studying locker rooms and whether they should buy a new balance beam for the gymnastics team.

Populous does projects small and large. Not every project they do it huge. They do a lot of facility master plans for schools such as Alabama, Arizona State, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Northwestern, Ohio State, Penn Stats, Virginia and Washington.

 

[PantherDave724]

When did Peak ever say Populous wasn't here pitching ideas for a football stadium?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

When did Peak ever say Populous wasn't here pitching ideas for a football stadium?

He did say that and I believe that's what he was told but I don't believe Pitt would tell any reporter they are doing a feasibility study. Its too big of a topic to risk it getting out for many reasons, not the least of which, they are still customers of the Stadium Authority.

 

[Nittany1997]

Pitt needs successful alumni to step up and get the ball rolling like Pegula did with the Pegloo at Penn State...

 

[Jtommyj]

Pitt needs successful alumni to step up and get the ball rolling like Pegula did with the Pegloo at Penn State...

David Tepper, you hearin' this?

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

On March 13. Populous did a 16 month study for them and they are having a public release. I believe ours was a 12 month study. Anybody have any idea if they will release the results? It seems counterproductive to have a press release that you are having the study but not publicly releasing the results.

Assuming there is either no stadium feasibility study or there is one that is determined unfeasible, I would have to believe Heinz Field and gameday atmosphere/making Heinz smaller fo Pitt games would be discussed at great lengths and I'm very interested to see what the findings are.

Pitt's was 9 months and started in June.
http://www.pittsburghpanthers.com/genrel/060216aaa.html

 

[NTOP]

No, I think the point is that if you are Pitt and you have a colossal problem in regards to football gameday atmosphere, you dont hire Populous unless you are serious about a football stadium. If Populous says its not feasible (which would be like a home building company studying your lot and your finances and telling you they are sorry, the house you want is not feasible), they would offer alternative solutions with regards to Heinz.

Only if that was requested. Your homebuilding analogy doesn't mean a thing. If you have a tiny city lot and want to put a McMansion on it...5,000 sq. ft. of ego, 4 car garage & pool....a builder might suggest you scrap the idea.

 

[PantherDave724]

Only if that was requested. Your homebuilding analogy doesn't mean a thing. If you have a tiny city lot and want to put a McMansion on it...5,000 sq. ft. of ego, 4 car garage & pool....a builder might suggest you scrap the idea.

There is plenty of room for a new stadium by the hot metal bridge next to the Mon River. All that undeveloped land should be where the stadium should be. Pitt should be looking to buy part of that land ASAP

 

[ThePanthers]

There is plenty of room for a new stadium by the hot metal bridge next to the Mon River. All that undeveloped land should be where the stadium should be. Pitt should be looking to buy part of that land ASAP

What?

 

[PantherDave724]

What?

Look it up and keep up

 

[NTOP]

There is plenty of room for a new stadium by the hot metal bridge next to the Mon River. All that undeveloped land should be where the stadium should be. Pitt should be looking to buy part of that land ASAP

So, you're against an on-campus stadium?? Infrastructure??

 

[PantherDave724]

So, you're against an on-campus stadium?? Infrastructure??

Realistically, there is just no room in Oakland. I'd love an on campus stadium, but putting it along the Mon and still walkable for students, close to the Parkway, area can be developed....seems like a perfect compromise.

 

[NTOP]

Realistically, there is just no room in Oakland. I'd love an on campus stadium, but putting it along the Mon and still walkable for students, close to the Parkway, area can be developed....seems like a perfect compromise.

You might want to drive by the Hot Metal Bridge on the Oakland side (2nd Ave.) at rush hour.....horrible bottleneck. And the Southside isn't any better.

 

[PantherDave724]

You might want to drive by the Hot Metal Bridge on the Oakland side (2nd Ave.) at rush hour.....horrible bottleneck. And the Southside isn't any better.

Maybe there is. Clearly a more efficient way to get onto the Parkway is needed. But people are going to have to deal with a little traffic after a game. It's unrealistic to expect you to hop in and out of games minus traffic. Pens traffic after a game is terrible. People deal with it. Same with the Steelers

 

[NTOP]

Maybe there is. Clearly a more efficient way to get onto the Parkway is needed. But people are going to have to deal with a little traffic after a game. It's unrealistic to expect you to hop in and out of games minus traffic. Pens traffic after a game is terrible. People deal with it. Same with the Steelers

But there aren't many options down there. Not worth the costs, IMHO.

 

[Swervin27]

Realistically, there is just no room in Oakland. I'd love an on campus stadium, but putting it along the Mon and still walkable for students, close to the Parkway, area can be developed....seems like a perfect compromise.

they don't own that land, it was purchased like 15 years ago by RIDC I think. im sure they'll get around to actually building something on it someday. the trib has an article every summer about all these tech start up companies with high priced condos and even show nice illustrations of how it will look. I swear, every summer the same article gets printed.. It will come true too, just as soon as they find someone who will invest..

Decent plot of land right under hot metal, tell all the Thermo Fisher employees to go find a new parking lot, we are taking this land.. probably best to buy a lot of land right next to it, buy it off of RIDC, they still have plenty of room for these non existent tech start up companies.. a bit of a stretch to say that is Oakland though, or that it is "walkable" for students..

 

[ThePanthers]

Look it up and keep up

I have. You expect to fit a stadium there? Along with enough parking and also have access from the parkway east? OK

 

[Swervin27]

I have. You expect to fit a stadium there? Along with enough parking and also have access from the parkway east? OK

you could put 20 football stadiums there, and have room for parking. space isn't the issue, building an on ramp isn't the issue either, it's that the land isn't for sale..

as far as spacing though, just googlemaps it, look at the size of Heinz or PNC park and compare it to the empty space along the river..

 

[pittdan77]

One of Beaver Stadium's biggest problems is that structurally, there are not many options. Parking is getting to be a real problem too.

And anyone that things Pitt needs a Pegula to goose the project is full of it. Pegula dumped money into the ice arena and helped keep BOB with a raise, but he isn't going to dump a gigantic wad of cash into a new stadium. PSU will ask the taxpayers to pony up and if you think STEP is a ripoff now, just wait.

My guess is Beaver Stadium gets "smaller" with less capacity and more amenities.

 

[Swervin27]

I agree @3genpanther , I was referring to everything east of the hot metal bridge, including right next to thermo fisher. Everything on the city side of hot metal, along Technology drive - 2nd ave, is spoken for. companies beat us to that waterfront property..

only option would be to buy that lot up from thermo, build em a garage in front of their place for parking. while we are spending pitt's money and all.