Now who allegedly made that happen ?
And when ?
Because let’s go back
2008 - Mendenhall
2009- ziggy hood
2013 - Jarvis jones
2016 Artie burns
Revisionist history is fun !
Pickett to the Browns.
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And when ?
Because let’s go back
2008 - Mendenhall
2009- ziggy hood
2013 - Jarvis jones
2016 Artie burns
Revisionist history is fun !
Weird how Kenny was traded after Colbert was gone , eh ?
I’m not saying he’s known for being good at it. I’m just saying he’s known for being the most hands on and active among his peers. No one rolls up his sleeves and gets his hands dirty at the all star games and scouting events like Mike. And he loves the whole process of getting to know the players through dinners, etc.
well whatever he's doing, lets' switch that strategy up because it's killing this organization.
I'd say hire a GM who's actually a GM and let him be a GM but that's apparently not going to happen.
Ah
So Mike wanted Kenny overriding Colbert and Art
And then traded him 2 years later ?
You guys love moving goalposts!
well mike rolling up his sleeves and having comped dinners at all star games sounds like a blast and all so good for him. Unfortunately it isnt helping this team.
Did he have dinner with George PIckens before drafting him and learning about the kind of character he is? How about claypoole? did he roll up his sleeves and scout Kendrick Greene before drafting him? How was that dinner with Anthony McFarland? he scouted the hell out of Devin Bush to make us trade up to get him..
How about no more rolling up the sleeves and dinners at all star games for DEI Mike until he gets one or two of these draft picks to pan out. im going to suggest they put a hold on his corporate Credit card, no more comped dinners at all star games for him. and lets keep the sleeves down for now.
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KP. Those other two are on Social Security.
How is that not clear as day? You can’t be this naive. You think the Steelers were going to draft Kenny for mike as a colbert parting gift and Mike was going to have no say on the most important position on his team?
And Kenny asked for a trade because Mike mangled that QB room. What’s Mikes tagline about not wanting hostages? just like Fields couldn’t get out of town fast enough.
The way the Steelers have managed the QB situation, and really the offense in general, since Ben retired is pretty much a textbook case of how not to do it. Word is that Rogers wants 2-years/$90 million and he has the Vikings interested. Fields' price was a steal for a younger guy and Pickett would have been a deep, deep discount.
Let's not forget, the Steelers need more than one QB.
Let's not forget, the Steelers need more than one QB.
If he ends up with the Vikings that would hilarious as that was the exact path Favre took. Packers Jets Vikings
I’m sure it’s a tough choice for Rodgers when you compare the HC, WR, and OLs. Lol
Yeah their coach made Darnold $100mil mediocre Mike lost 5 straight to end the year
I can't imagine getting free of the Jets would make Rogers yearn for PGH's OL play. Feels like a bait and switch to get a better offer out of Minnesota.
Who uses a 9 year period to make a point? To skew a point? This shows how disingenuous you are. Why not take a 10 year snapshot? Wouldn’t that make sense? Or does that skew things and make your point even more ridiculous?
I don’t even know why you’re saying he was bad at his job. Since you are using first round hit rate as your measure, you realize that he hit on 5 of 9 first rounders or 56% during your arbitrary period? And if you do an even 10 year snapshot, it was 70% hit rate? Up against the league average, which is 50%, I’d say he hit above the mean.
Before Tomlin, he was 60% the previous 10 years, with half of them being HOFers (Troy, Ben, faneca) and the other 3 being plaxico, Simmons and Heath. That’s damn good.
His last 10 years have been below the line, only hitting on DeCastro, Shazier, Dupree, and TJ Watt…with minimal long term use from Bud and Ryan. There’s the problem.
Using your arbitrary 9 year snapshot of first rounders—
Jarvis
Shazier (good luck, unlucky return)
Burns
Edmunds (serviceable pro)
Bush
Najee (servicable pro)
Pickett.
^theres your biggest problem. The Colbert/Tomlin regime sucked in the most recent snapshot. That’s pitiful.
In other words, colbert starting sucking once mike was more seasoned and started gaining more imput and power In the organization.
Well yeah and Colbert the GM
So - when did Tomlin make all the calls ?
Is this like when the economy deom
One admin becomes the next admin’s ?
Meaning - it only depends on the predetermined bias ?
So when did Colbert give up control of the roster to Tomlin?
Can we narrow it down to a draft claw or two ?
My question is -
When did Colbert start phoning it in ?
Because he made some bad picks early in Tomlin’s tenure - as I demonstrated
I’m asking a question
Because I’m the only one consistent here
The GM , HC , and owner make draft picks - the GM makes free agency decisions
The HC makes personnel decisions for game days.
Let me guess when you think Colbert fell off ?
Probably in 2017?
If they are, then you know it’s on Tomlin, given his soft spot for vets and his love affair with Rodgers.
Probably around the time the owner started giving Tomlin more power in personnel decisions.
Why would Tomlin wanting to draft KP in 22' and greenlighting his trade request in 24' be mutually exclusive events? Things change rather quickly in pro sports.
Please! They got how many years of service out of a guy who they could have got the same production out of with a 5th round pick? You’re really in a slump today.
You don’t draft guys #1 overall who aren’t going to be around in 4 years and then signs a 1.5 million dollar/1year deal for a 2nd contract with someone else.
I’m not surprised that you think it’s wise to pick a RB in the 1st round who averages less than 4 yards per carry in his career.
What a great way to waste draft capital. !!!
I mean how can it even be debated? Why would Tomlin walk away from him? Lol.
A first round RB is always a bit iffy for a team with a subpar OL but RB wasn't even close to the biggest need in that draft. Neither was TE in the second but if a guy isn't on your roster after the rookie contract, then you either have so much talent you can't afford it all or you've failed. I knew the 2021 draft was a failure as it was happening because of who they didn't take but they got next to nothing out of what they did take.
Let me ask you this. 1000 yards is nothing these days. So what’s the new bench mark? 1500? And if it’s 1500, then that’s an average of 30 more rushing yards per game from your RB. Would that warrant drafting the kid from Boise St? 30 yards is nothing to snuff at IMO. Could mean keeping drives alive and a couple more 1st downs per game.
That said, there’s no guarantee the kid is going to give you 30 yards per game more production than Najee. So I wouldn’t do it. No way.
a great college RB as a first Rd pick is a "luxury" pick. if you have a nice roster, and the player is absolutely special, then yes, you go for it..
The steelers were far away from having that luxury and Najee is far from being a spectacular talent. he's about as run of the mill as you get, dime a dozen guy in the nfl. it was a bad pick and his production can be replicated at a fraction of the cost with a much later draft pick.
there is a reason the chargers signed him to a very heavy incentive based salary.
if you were a qb, would you want to play for tomlin and arthur smith?
