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Pitt’s new on campus football stadium

I don't know how to tell you this without sounding like a broken record but the AD doesn't get to decide what to build or what not to build. Huge capital projects are decided on from above. The school realized it had a problem and made a commitment to upgrade facilities back when it joined the ACC. Not sure if you remember but Pitt was widely thought of as a joke when it came to sports. Terrible teams and ancient facilities. It's not like Heather walked into the athletic offices one day with MSPaint renderings and decided to build a multi-sport facility and the school started writing checks. Perhaps many of the details were ironed out while she was here but its not like she made the call. The beef was that she didn't raise more money for it. I wish the new AD good luck with that but that's the problem.

Pitt doesn't want an on-campus stadium. Strategically, it makes sense to not invest in something that doesn't get year round use and doesn't generate much more revenue that what they have now. It's infinitely more likely that the administration will go backwards in its commitment to sports because that's always been the trend.
Oh man! Notre Dame should have consulted you before they went ahead with this!

The Campus Crossroads project – the largest building initiative in the history of the University of Notre Dame – sought to transform Notre Dame Stadium into a year-round hub for academic and student life. With the addition of Corbett Family Hall, Duncan Student Center and O’Neil Hall, the University has added approximately 800,000 SF of classroom, research, student life, media, performance, meeting, event, and hospitality space. The three new buildings bring together diverse disciplines to engage in a collaborative and multidisciplinary experience that enhances student life beyond seven Saturdays a year.
 
Well, then James Sentelli must be stupid as well.

Pitt did acquire land in his proposed stadium's footprint in 2016.
VERY!!!

Pitt acquired the Syria Mosque parking lot only, from UPMC, and it has absolutely zero chance for use for anything to do with football and is actually currently targeted as the home of the new School of Computing and Information. As I said, there is nothing that has become available in Oakland that could be used for football that Pitt has not acquired. There is no chance of a stadium going in that plot even if it was twice as large. The Wyndam plot and UPMC medical offices plot across Lytton are both owned by the Masons who have no interest in selling those revenue generators. Lytton Ave itself is owned by the city. The new Oaklander hotel to the south has a 99 year lease. Everything is smack in the middle of the Schenley Farms Historic District, which means any even small changes must be approved by the city's Historic Review Commission.

Here's a clue morons, because you can draw a box on a map in MS Paint doesn't mean a football stadium can go on it.
 
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Oh man! Notre Dame should have consulted you before they went ahead with this!

The Campus Crossroads project – the largest building initiative in the history of the University of Notre Dame – sought to transform Notre Dame Stadium into a year-round hub for academic and student life. With the addition of Corbett Family Hall, Duncan Student Center and O’Neil Hall, the University has added approximately 800,000 SF of classroom, research, student life, media, performance, meeting, event, and hospitality space. The three new buildings bring together diverse disciplines to engage in a collaborative and multidisciplinary experience that enhances student life beyond seven Saturdays a year.


What Notre Dame did was to attach three buildings to their football stadium that had no reason at all to be there, other than to pretend that somehow people using those buildings means that the Stadium is being used every day. When it's not. The buildings they attached to the stadium, all of which could have been built elsewhere, are used every day. The actual stadium gets used pretty much the same amount now as it always has.
 
A comment and a prediction

1) in the NIL world of today, where schools have to figure out ways to generate cash....I think AD's across the country are envious of schools that lease stadiums, as opposed to the expense of maintaining and upgrading an existing albatross.

2) my prediction: Pitt is always looking to acquire real estate, and the campus is essentially built into a hillside. Yet on campus are several acres of beautiful, perfectly level acres known as Cost Field.

The baseball program is a financial loser and will never be an ACC power.

Given the unquenchable thirst for new means of generating (and saving) money, coupled with such a sweet spot of real estate

The baseball program will be shut down within 3 years.
Schools that lease their stadiums… I can think of 2.. maybe 3 major div 1 schools….such an exclusive club.
 
There are 38 players listed on Pitt’s baseball roster. That means at least 26 of them are paying full tuition. Is that enough to keep the team going?
 
There are 38 players listed on Pitt’s baseball roster. That means at least 26 of them are paying full tuition. Is that enough to keep the team going?
And you cut 38 of them, take 0.3 seconds to admit an additional 38 student each paying full tuition on top of what is easily $14+ million worth of land where their field sits.
 
VERY!!!

Pitt acquired the Syria Mosque parking lot only, from UPMC, and it has absolutely zero chance for use for anything to do with football and is actually currently targeted as the home of the new School of Computing and Information. As I said, there is nothing that has become available in Oakland that could be used for football that Pitt has not acquired. There is no chance of a stadium going in that plot even if it was twice as large. The Wyndam plot and UPMC medical offices plot across Lytton are both owned by the Masons who have no interest in selling those revenue generators. Lytton Ave itself is owned by the city. The new Oaklander hotel to the south has a 99 year lease. Everything is smack in the middle of the Schenley Farms Historic District, which means any even small changes must be approved by the city's Historic Review Commission.

Here's a clue morons, because you can draw a box on a map in MS Paint doesn't mean a football stadium can go on it.

Yeah. That historic district is so historic that they were able to tear down a revered building and put up a parking lot.
 
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2) my prediction: Pitt is always looking to acquire real estate, and the campus is essentially built into a hillside. Yet on campus are several acres of beautiful, perfectly level acres known as Cost Field.
What do you mean? You don't need to tear down anything, just look at all of this available real estate.
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So the parking lot was a historic landmark in 2016?
Do you actually believe that a football stadium could fit in that parking lot? The lot is half the size of the Petersen Events Center, which is half the size of the Pitt Stadium footprint.
 
Do you actually believe that a football stadium could fit in that parking lot? The lot is half the size of the Petersen Events Center, which is half the size of the Pitt Stadium footprint.

Of course not. I was referencing the idea from years ago from James Santelli, which is linked above. In his plan, that parking lot space, along with several other parcels, were used in his stadium mock up. Paco trotted out the Schenley Farms Historic District as a reason why the plan is a stupid idea (because let's be honest, every idea not from Paco is stupid according to him). But, the historic district is so important that it was perfectly ok for the Syria Mosque to be torn down and a parking lot put in its place for decades. LOL.
 
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Of course not. I was referencing the idea from years ago from James Santelli, which is linked above. In his plan, that parking lot space, along with several other parcels, were used in his stadium mock up. Paco trotted out the Schenley Farms Historic District as a reason why the plan is a stupid idea (because let's be honest, every idea not from Paco is stupid according to him). But, the historic district is so important that it was perfectly ok for the Syria Mosque to be torn down and a parking lot put in its place for decades. LOL.
What does santelli do for a living , exactly ?!?
 
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