What’s the going rate for occasional tarp advertising?You could actually bring in money through advertising. You could have UPMC, PNC, etc. on the tarps.
What’s the going rate for occasional tarp advertising?You could actually bring in money through advertising. You could have UPMC, PNC, etc. on the tarps.
Probably depends on how much they can get shown on tv. At which point the bitching will begin here and elsewhere.What’s the going rate for occasional tarp advertising?
It depends on how much TV time, but something is better than nothing.What’s the going rate for occasional tarp advertising?
ALLENE GREENE. TARP THESE SEATS.
Spot on. I make noise at Steelers and Pitt games. It's a lot more energized at Steeler games with a packed section compared to no one ever near me at the Pitt games. Though I do think the crowd has been pretty good this season in terms of making noise.I’m qualified to answer this question because I’m one of the fans who makes noise every home game and have been doing so for a long time. When fans are in closer proximity to each other, then they are much more inclined to stand and make more noise. That is based on 40 years of attending home games. I also agree with the people saying the optics of the yellow seats magnifies the situation.
Don't need your "hint". I am fully aware of which hospital belongs to which healthcare system. Still doesn't explain why UPMC felt the need to spend over $250 million dollars to build the hospital where they did. It wasn't needed in the area with Forbes Regional already in the area.Hint Forbes is Highmark/AHN
East is UPMC
The VA isn’t for profit like those - it’s a nationalized healthcare system .
So the idea of moving it to the burbs is nonsense
No doubt the perverse and inefficient incentives for private insurers is silly .
But , that’s too hard to grasp for some -
Until their employer cuts their benefits to save money - so they instead blame the government ironically .
Is it worth the bad will of moving season ticket holdersIt depends on how much TV time, but something is better than nothing.
I mean we are talking about tarping upper bleachers and top parts of the sidelines. (1) How many people even have season tickets there (2) Your life will go on having to sit on the bottom half of the upper sidelinesIs it worth the bad will of moving season ticket holders
Who don’t want to move ?
I mean we are talking about tarping upper bleachers and top parts of the sidelines. (1) How many people even have season tickets there (2) Your life will go on having to sit on the bottom half of the upper sidelines
Who is anti-tarp? Nobody is sitting here saying that they're done with Pitt football if tarps get installed. Most everyone is sitting here saying tarps add nothing. Zilch. Just an annoyance that nobody in any position of authority wants or thinks Pitt needs.People that are anti-tarp are literally the same people who yell at you to sit down on a big third down. Old cornballs.
I’m surprised nobody has purposed that we put cardboard cutouts in the upper deck like they did during Covid.Who is anti-tarp? Nobody is sitting here saying that they're done with Pitt football if tarps get installed. Most everyone is sitting here saying tarps add nothing. Zilch. Just an annoyance that nobody in any position of authority wants or thinks Pitt needs.
Do the energized Steeler crowds stand. Even on third downs?????Spot on. I make noise at Steelers and Pitt games. It's a lot more energized at Steeler games with a packed section compared to no one ever near me at the Pitt games. Though I do think the crowd has been pretty good this season in terms of making noise.
Not much .Do the energized Steeler crowds stand. Even on third downs?????
When pitt attempted this 10-15 years ago - those folks refused to be moved .I mean we are talking about tarping upper bleachers and top parts of the sidelines. (1) How many people even have season tickets there (2) Your life will go on having to sit on the bottom half of the upper sidelines
I have been saying for years now that the #1 issue within the AD was Lyke's inability to build an on campus stadium. I agree with you that if should be done, just don't think the Pitt administration wants to do so.
Whether any one on here wants to admit it or not, but the Pitt administration is cheap. They have constantly balked at purchasing existing properties near the Oakland campus when they have become available over the years. They always seem to be willing to sit back and wait with he hope that the property owners will just donate that property or building to Pitt.
The school has an endowment of over $4.5 Billion dollars, yet they are constantly asking for donations from its alumni. Even during Covid when many people were out of work, they were sending out correspondence asking for donations to the school. That really bothered me. If I had extra money to donate at that time, it would have went to a place like CHP, not to an entity with over $4.5 Billion in the bank. Back to the endowment money...What are the saving that money for??? I understand that there are some restrictions in place for the use of that money, but if it is being used to invest/improve the university, why not use it?
Lastly, there is plenty of room for an on campus stadium if the school wanted to build that facility. Do I know where that facility would go? No,
I have been saying for years now that the #1 issue within the AD was Lyke's inability to build an on campus stadium. I agree with you that if should be done, just don't think the Pitt administration wants to do so.
Whether any one on here wants to admit it or not, but the Pitt administration is cheap. They have constantly balked at purchasing existing properties near the Oakland campus when they have become available over the years. They always seem to be willing to sit back and wait with he hope that the property owners will just donate that property or building to Pitt.
The school has an endowment of over $4.5 Billion dollars, yet they are constantly asking for donations from its alumni. Even during Covid when many people were out of work, they were sending out correspondence asking for donations to the school. That really bothered me. If I had extra money to donate at that time, it would have went to a place like CHP, not to an entity with over $4.5 Billion in the bank. Back to the endowment money...What are the saving that money for??? I understand that there are some restrictions in place for the use of that money, but if it is being used to invest/improve the university, why not use it?
Lastly, there is plenty of room for an on campus stadium if the school wanted to build that facility. Do I know where that facility would go? No, I do not and that is okay, because that is not my job to do so. If it were, a new on campus facility would be being built already. Pitt needs to stop being cheap and making excuses for why it can't be down and just do it.
There’s nothing about college FB that makes financial sense so take a hike on attempting to oppose Pitt’s building an on campus stadium on financial grounds. The long term view supports building a stadium! The money that would be contributed by donors to building a stadium ain’t going to nil…that’s a fact!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Building a new on campus stadium makes no financial sense.
People are against tarping because it would have to be done 7 times a year for a minimal expense but want Pitt to spend $700 million or more for a new on campus stadium which would only be used 7 times a year.
Pitt invests in Research Facilities and UPMC Hospitals because they attract outside Research Funding for the University.
Pitt attracts $1.16 Billion a year in annual research funding.
Sports bring in $.05 cents on the dollar compared to Research Funding.
Save the $700 million for NIL and Transfer Portal recruiting.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Pitts NIL is incentive based. Player may get a little more if he’s highly rated and has potential to start right away but overall we are not going the direction of overpaying for HS kids to outbid other schools.Some posters arguing for an OCS still haven't joined the rest of us in the new NIL world.
A sold out venue with great atmosphere is nice, but nowhere near as critical as it was 5 years ago
Coach Franklin:
" son, look at this place, 105K whiteout. Cant you just feel it? Why would you want to play at a half empty rent a stadium "?
4 star DE with lots of offers:
" because Pitt has an offer for me that is 100K more than you and your sold out farm show"......
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!There’s nothing about college FB that makes financial sense so take a hike on attempting to oppose Pitt’s building an on campus stadium on financial grounds. The long term view supports building a stadium! The money that would be contributed by donors to building a stadium ain’t going to nil…that’s a fact!
Whose long term view? So far you’ve provided nothing other than your wishes or opinion (and possibly fantasies).There’s nothing about college FB that makes financial sense so take a hike on attempting to oppose Pitt’s building an on campus stadium on financial grounds. The long term view supports building a stadium! The money that would be contributed by donors to building a stadium ain’t going to nil…that’s a fact!
Every single third and fourth down.Do the energized Steeler crowds stand. Even on third downs?????
You've apparently never been to a Steelers game.Not much .
Pittsburgh , especially older pitt fans , are more the “SIT DAhN!!’” variety
You missed the entire pointPitts NIL is incentive based. Player may get a little more if he’s highly rated and has potential to start right away but overall we are not going the direction of overpaying for HS kids to outbid other schools.
how convenient.You missed the entire point
Its not about Pitt and how they handle NIL
It is about the crowds and pageantry mean less today
Good Lord.....
Another pong guy who opposes an off campus stadium because he’s enthralled with his pre game hijinx.LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like Club Seating at Acrisure/Parking Situation and amenities around the stadium pre and post game.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
😂You missed the entire point
Its not about Pitt and how they handle NIL
It is about the crowds and pageantry mean less today
Good Lord.....
They built what they needed now. At least those facilities are being used regularly, and not for (only) six games a year.I still think it's hilarious that Pitt kept saying they don't have the money for an on campus stadium, and then they went and started building facilities costing hundreds of millions for non revenue sports.... without having the money. Only at Pitt. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It. Will. Never. Change.
They built what they needed now. At least those facilities are being used regularly, and not for (only) six games a year.
I have -You've apparently never been to a Steelers game.
Students haven’t been the problem. And 3 out of the last 4 years we’ve had a top 25 team. The year we won the acc and a heisman candidate we had like 50k for a ranked Clemson late in the game. Maybe 45k for uva to clinch the division.Wanny said it best…….every game their will always be 40k and even when Pitt stadium was in its heyday only big big games brought out more. Being off campus hasn’t changed that, winning less has. I guarantee if they are undefeated to play Clemson it will be 60k plus and prove the narrative of “all the students want to come but can’t “ wrong
Wanny said it best…….every game their will always be 40k and even when Pitt stadium was in its heyday only big big games brought out more. Being off campus hasn’t changed that, winning less has. I guarantee if they are undefeated to play Clemson it will be 60k plus and prove the narrative of “all the students want to come but can’t “ wrong
If memory serves; there are more students today at Acrisure for Pitt football games than there were at Pitt Stadium when it existed.Nope. Pitt's attendance at Pitt Stadium when they were playing great was pretty good in comparison to other college football programs. But when those other programs made investments and grew their fantasies, Pitt deemphasized football and made one poor decision after the next. Their attempts to get students to games at HF and marketing for tickets had been much more of a priority than it ever seemed to be when playing on campus. Add to this the lack of affinity that students have when needing to take a yellow schools bus to a pro team's stadium and you dig yourself an even deeper hole. It's too deep now. Enjoy this season.
If memory serves; there are more students today at Acrisure for Pitt football games than there were at Pitt Stadium when it existed.
Students have been awesome the last decadeIf memory serves; there are more students today at Acrisure for Pitt football games than there were at Pitt Stadium when it existed.
Uhhhh,,,,Correct. And more students at Pitt. And college football attendance is much higher across the country compared to then. It's not really a fair comparison.
Fine. But it really doesn't matter when college football attendance has increased almost everywhere. Now, who was in the Chancellor's Leadership Team in Nov 2017?Uhhhh,,,,
Total students at Pitt (Pittsburgh campus): Fall 1981: 24,884 undergrads; 35,114 total students (source 1982 Pitt Fact Book, page 23)
Total students at Pitt (Pittsburgh campus) Fall 2024: 20, 418 undergrads; 29,927 total students (source Pitt electronic fact book)
Yes, your arguments are specious, as usual. Overall college football attendance has generally been declining since 2013. I believe 2008 was the all time high in FBS at around 47K average . Attendance has been better at Heinz/Acrisure than it ever was at Pitt Stadium when normalized to wins.Fine. But it really doesn't matter when college football attendance has increased almost everywhere. Now, who was in the Chancellor's Leadership Team in Nov 2017?
And I'm assuming there are now more on campus students.
Yes, your arguments are specious, as usual. Overall college football attendance has generally been declining since 2013. I believe 2008 was the all time high in FBS at around 47K average . Attendance has been better at Heinz/Acrisure than it ever was at Pitt Stadium when normalized to wins.
It is all about wins and expectations. Location has little to do with it other than ease of access. Moving back into a hypothetical Pitt Stadium, if that were even possible, would not improve attendance.