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Pitt’s new on campus football stadium

They aren't doing tarps and would very likely screw it up anyway. But, it could be cool.

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People that are anti-tarp are literally the same people who yell at you to sit down on a big third down. Old cornballs.

By funneling everyone into a fewer amount of sections and selling out every seat, it would create a way better environment than the current set up. The biggest issue with the ack is that it feels like everyone is spread out even though we have 45K-50K, which is way bigger than half these college teams stadiums.

ALLENE GREENE. TARP THESE SEATS.
 
I’m qualified to answer this question because I’m one of the fans who makes noise every home game and have been doing so for a long time. When fans are in closer proximity to each other, then they are much more inclined to stand and make more noise. That is based on 40 years of attending home games. I also agree with the people saying the optics of the yellow seats magnifies the situation.
Spot on. I make noise at Steelers and Pitt games. It's a lot more energized at Steeler games with a packed section compared to no one ever near me at the Pitt games. Though I do think the crowd has been pretty good this season in terms of making noise.
 
Hint Forbes is Highmark/AHN
East is UPMC

The VA isn’t for profit like those - it’s a nationalized healthcare system .
So the idea of moving it to the burbs is nonsense
No doubt the perverse and inefficient incentives for private insurers is silly .
But , that’s too hard to grasp for some -
Until their employer cuts their benefits to save money - so they instead blame the government ironically .
Don't need your "hint". I am fully aware of which hospital belongs to which healthcare system. Still doesn't explain why UPMC felt the need to spend over $250 million dollars to build the hospital where they did. It wasn't needed in the area with Forbes Regional already in the area.
Also, in regards to your comment in your earlier post about the VA hospital in Oakland, I would have to disagree with that as well. I have been in that facility quire a few times. During my clinical rotations while at Pitt and taking my father and father in law down to the VA hospital for tests, traffic was a real pain in the neck. Coming up Center Avenue and turning onto Aliquippa Street (If I remember the names of those streets correctly) to enter the VA hospital was not a pleasant experience.
The VA even realized that the having a facility on University Drive is not ideal. That is why they took the step to spend over $100 million dollars to build the new Monroeville VA clinic directly next to Monroeville Mall. U offer you this from the VA website...

Shortly after we closed our Highland Drive campus in 2013, Veterans complained of their frustration with the University Drive campus' parking garage and Oakland traffic. This continuing frustration prompted the idea to build a VA outpatient clinic in Allegheny County. We selected Monroeville because extensive research found a large number of Veterans reside on the eastern side of Allegheny County, making an outpatient clinic in this area more accessible and ideal for many of our patients.

There is plenty of room available to add onto that new facility if the VA wanted to. Also plenty of free parking spaces available as well. Why doesn't Pitt offer to help the VA move the entire facility out of the Oakland area and add it to the new Monroeville VA clinic site? Helps both the VA and the University of Pittsburgh as well.
 
Is it worth the bad will of moving season ticket holders
Who don’t want to move ?
I mean we are talking about tarping upper bleachers and top parts of the sidelines. (1) How many people even have season tickets there (2) Your life will go on having to sit on the bottom half of the upper sidelines
 
I mean we are talking about tarping upper bleachers and top parts of the sidelines. (1) How many people even have season tickets there (2) Your life will go on having to sit on the bottom half of the upper sidelines

What's that clown instigating about now? I gave him on ignore and for good reason.
 
People that are anti-tarp are literally the same people who yell at you to sit down on a big third down. Old cornballs.
Who is anti-tarp? Nobody is sitting here saying that they're done with Pitt football if tarps get installed. Most everyone is sitting here saying tarps add nothing. Zilch. Just an annoyance that nobody in any position of authority wants or thinks Pitt needs.
 
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Who is anti-tarp? Nobody is sitting here saying that they're done with Pitt football if tarps get installed. Most everyone is sitting here saying tarps add nothing. Zilch. Just an annoyance that nobody in any position of authority wants or thinks Pitt needs.
I’m surprised nobody has purposed that we put cardboard cutouts in the upper deck like they did during Covid.
 
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Spot on. I make noise at Steelers and Pitt games. It's a lot more energized at Steeler games with a packed section compared to no one ever near me at the Pitt games. Though I do think the crowd has been pretty good this season in terms of making noise.
Do the energized Steeler crowds stand. Even on third downs?????
 
I mean we are talking about tarping upper bleachers and top parts of the sidelines. (1) How many people even have season tickets there (2) Your life will go on having to sit on the bottom half of the upper sidelines
When pitt attempted this 10-15 years ago - those folks refused to be moved .
They sit there on purpose because they like the view .
 
I have been saying for years now that the #1 issue within the AD was Lyke's inability to build an on campus stadium. I agree with you that if should be done, just don't think the Pitt administration wants to do so.
Whether any one on here wants to admit it or not, but the Pitt administration is cheap. They have constantly balked at purchasing existing properties near the Oakland campus when they have become available over the years. They always seem to be willing to sit back and wait with he hope that the property owners will just donate that property or building to Pitt.
The school has an endowment of over $4.5 Billion dollars, yet they are constantly asking for donations from its alumni. Even during Covid when many people were out of work, they were sending out correspondence asking for donations to the school. That really bothered me. If I had extra money to donate at that time, it would have went to a place like CHP, not to an entity with over $4.5 Billion in the bank. Back to the endowment money...What are the saving that money for??? I understand that there are some restrictions in place for the use of that money, but if it is being used to invest/improve the university, why not use it?
Lastly, there is plenty of room for an on campus stadium if the school wanted to build that facility. Do I know where that facility would go? No,
I have been saying for years now that the #1 issue within the AD was Lyke's inability to build an on campus stadium. I agree with you that if should be done, just don't think the Pitt administration wants to do so.
Whether any one on here wants to admit it or not, but the Pitt administration is cheap. They have constantly balked at purchasing existing properties near the Oakland campus when they have become available over the years. They always seem to be willing to sit back and wait with he hope that the property owners will just donate that property or building to Pitt.
The school has an endowment of over $4.5 Billion dollars, yet they are constantly asking for donations from its alumni. Even during Covid when many people were out of work, they were sending out correspondence asking for donations to the school. That really bothered me. If I had extra money to donate at that time, it would have went to a place like CHP, not to an entity with over $4.5 Billion in the bank. Back to the endowment money...What are the saving that money for??? I understand that there are some restrictions in place for the use of that money, but if it is being used to invest/improve the university, why not use it?
Lastly, there is plenty of room for an on campus stadium if the school wanted to build that facility. Do I know where that facility would go? No, I do not and that is okay, because that is not my job to do so. If it were, a new on campus facility would be being built already. Pitt needs to stop being cheap and making excuses for why it can't be down and just do it.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Building a new on campus stadium makes no financial sense.

People are against tarping because it would have to be done 7 times a year for a minimal expense but want Pitt to spend $700 million or more for a new on campus stadium which would only be used 7 times a year.

Pitt invests in Research Facilities and UPMC Hospitals because they attract outside Research Funding for the University.

Pitt attracts $1.16 Billion a year in annual research funding.

Sports bring in $.05 cents on the dollar compared to Research Funding.

Save the $700 million for NIL and Transfer Portal recruiting.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Building a new on campus stadium makes no financial sense.

People are against tarping because it would have to be done 7 times a year for a minimal expense but want Pitt to spend $700 million or more for a new on campus stadium which would only be used 7 times a year.

Pitt invests in Research Facilities and UPMC Hospitals because they attract outside Research Funding for the University.

Pitt attracts $1.16 Billion a year in annual research funding.

Sports bring in $.05 cents on the dollar compared to Research Funding.

Save the $700 million for NIL and Transfer Portal recruiting.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
There’s nothing about college FB that makes financial sense so take a hike on attempting to oppose Pitt’s building an on campus stadium on financial grounds. The long term view supports building a stadium! The money that would be contributed by donors to building a stadium ain’t going to nil…that’s a fact!
 
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Some posters arguing for an OCS still haven't joined the rest of us in the new NIL world.

A sold out venue with great atmosphere is nice, but nowhere near as critical as it was 5 years ago

Coach Franklin:

" son, look at this place, 105K whiteout. Cant you just feel it? Why would you want to play at a half empty rent a stadium "?

4 star DE with lots of offers:

" because Pitt has an offer for me that is 100K more than you and your sold out farm show"......
Pitts NIL is incentive based. Player may get a little more if he’s highly rated and has potential to start right away but overall we are not going the direction of overpaying for HS kids to outbid other schools.
 
There’s nothing about college FB that makes financial sense so take a hike on attempting to oppose Pitt’s building an on campus stadium on financial grounds. The long term view supports building a stadium! The money that would be contributed by donors to building a stadium ain’t going to nil…that’s a fact!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like Club Seating at Acrisure/Parking Situation and amenities around the stadium pre and post game.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
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There’s nothing about college FB that makes financial sense so take a hike on attempting to oppose Pitt’s building an on campus stadium on financial grounds. The long term view supports building a stadium! The money that would be contributed by donors to building a stadium ain’t going to nil…that’s a fact!
Whose long term view? So far you’ve provided nothing other than your wishes or opinion (and possibly fantasies).
 
Pitts NIL is incentive based. Player may get a little more if he’s highly rated and has potential to start right away but overall we are not going the direction of overpaying for HS kids to outbid other schools.
You missed the entire point

Its not about Pitt and how they handle NIL

It is about the crowds and pageantry mean less today

Good Lord.....
 
I still think it's hilarious that Pitt kept saying they don't have the money for an on campus stadium, and then they went and started building facilities costing hundreds of millions for non revenue sports.... without having the money. Only at Pitt. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

It. Will. Never. Change.
They built what they needed now. At least those facilities are being used regularly, and not for (only) six games a year.
 
Wanny said it best…….every game their will always be 40k and even when Pitt stadium was in its heyday only big big games brought out more. Being off campus hasn’t changed that, winning less has. I guarantee if they are undefeated to play Clemson it will be 60k plus and prove the narrative of “all the students want to come but can’t “ wrong
 
Wanny said it best…….every game their will always be 40k and even when Pitt stadium was in its heyday only big big games brought out more. Being off campus hasn’t changed that, winning less has. I guarantee if they are undefeated to play Clemson it will be 60k plus and prove the narrative of “all the students want to come but can’t “ wrong
Students haven’t been the problem. And 3 out of the last 4 years we’ve had a top 25 team. The year we won the acc and a heisman candidate we had like 50k for a ranked Clemson late in the game. Maybe 45k for uva to clinch the division.

If we can get to Clemson 8-1 or 9-0 and not shit the next 2 games, there will probably be 50-55k for Clemson. It’s just what it is.

Outside of wvu, psu, or nd, the only games I remember having a sold out crowd at either Pitt stadium or Heinz is the 2003 vt game and 2009 cincy game.
 
Wanny said it best…….every game their will always be 40k and even when Pitt stadium was in its heyday only big big games brought out more. Being off campus hasn’t changed that, winning less has. I guarantee if they are undefeated to play Clemson it will be 60k plus and prove the narrative of “all the students want to come but can’t “ wrong

Nope. Pitt's attendance at Pitt Stadium when they were playing great was pretty good in comparison to other college football programs. But when those other programs made investments and grew their fantasies, Pitt deemphasized football and made one poor decision after the next. Their attempts to get students to games at HF and marketing for tickets had been much more of a priority than it ever seemed to be when playing on campus. Add to this the lack of affinity that students have when needing to take a yellow schools bus to a pro team's stadium and you dig yourself an even deeper hole. It's too deep now. Enjoy this season.
 
Nope. Pitt's attendance at Pitt Stadium when they were playing great was pretty good in comparison to other college football programs. But when those other programs made investments and grew their fantasies, Pitt deemphasized football and made one poor decision after the next. Their attempts to get students to games at HF and marketing for tickets had been much more of a priority than it ever seemed to be when playing on campus. Add to this the lack of affinity that students have when needing to take a yellow schools bus to a pro team's stadium and you dig yourself an even deeper hole. It's too deep now. Enjoy this season.
If memory serves; there are more students today at Acrisure for Pitt football games than there were at Pitt Stadium when it existed.
 
If memory serves; there are more students today at Acrisure for Pitt football games than there were at Pitt Stadium when it existed.

Correct. And more students at Pitt. And college football attendance is much higher across the country compared to then. It's not really a fair comparison.
 
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Correct. And more students at Pitt. And college football attendance is much higher across the country compared to then. It's not really a fair comparison.
Uhhhh,,,,

Total students at Pitt (Pittsburgh campus): Fall 1981: 24,884 undergrads; 35,114 total students (source 1982 Pitt Fact Book, page 23)
Total students at Pitt (Pittsburgh campus) Fall 2024: 20, 418 undergrads; 29,927 total students (source Pitt electronic fact book)
 
Uhhhh,,,,

Total students at Pitt (Pittsburgh campus): Fall 1981: 24,884 undergrads; 35,114 total students (source 1982 Pitt Fact Book, page 23)
Total students at Pitt (Pittsburgh campus) Fall 2024: 20, 418 undergrads; 29,927 total students (source Pitt electronic fact book)
Fine. But it really doesn't matter when college football attendance has increased almost everywhere. Now, who was in the Chancellor's Leadership Team in Nov 2017?

And I'm assuming there are now more on campus students.
 
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Fine. But it really doesn't matter when college football attendance has increased almost everywhere. Now, who was in the Chancellor's Leadership Team in Nov 2017?

And I'm assuming there are now more on campus students.
Yes, your arguments are specious, as usual. Overall college football attendance has generally been declining since 2013. I believe 2008 was the all time high in FBS at around 47K average . Attendance has been better at Heinz/Acrisure than it ever was at Pitt Stadium when normalized to wins.

It is all about wins and expectations. Location has little to do with it other than ease of access. Moving back into a hypothetical Pitt Stadium, if that were even possible, would not improve attendance.
 
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Yes, your arguments are specious, as usual. Overall college football attendance has generally been declining since 2013. I believe 2008 was the all time high in FBS at around 47K average . Attendance has been better at Heinz/Acrisure than it ever was at Pitt Stadium when normalized to wins.

It is all about wins and expectations. Location has little to do with it other than ease of access. Moving back into a hypothetical Pitt Stadium, if that were even possible, would not improve attendance.

I never claimed that it would improve attendance. But it would be better. Need the student connection while on campus for them to keep the program afloat as alumni. We aren't going to be able to compete.
 
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