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Pitt issues public reprimand for Capel

A reprimand from the school is decidedly not common. From the league? Sure. I can’t recall anything like this before, at least not for something that, in the grand scheme of things, is pretty minor. At best this is a sloppy communications strategy as it needs to come from Capel before anything is said from the school.

True. It almost always comes from the league.

It says in the release Capel has taken responsibility and spoken to the appropriate parties involved (whatever that means)

I'm guessing this is just an attempt by Pitt to get out in front of the issue and attempt to save $10 to $20K. Because it's a pretty sure thing a reprimand was coming from the league.
 
Did Pitt label the release “a public reprimand”?

If they did, they are definitely not agreeing with him.

Understands the consequences and has spoken to the appropriate parties, also does not sound like Pitt is happy with him if Pitt is one of the “appropriate parties”.

I think your reading is with rose colored glasses.

Pitt definitely doesn't agree with Capel, nor should they. What he said and did was bush league and he sounded like a whiney little wimp making excuses for the poor play of his team and his poor coaching. If Pitt does agree with him, they're flat out wrong and part of the problem with this basketball program.

Capel needs to grow up and do his job.
 
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No doubt about it. You’re 100% correct.
Is there a chance Capel will be suspended for the Tuesday game? Consequences that there will be no further comment on?
 
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Zero chance
Pitt simply provided cover to prevent acc discipline
Capel made three statements that could get him suspended:

1 - I know Ishould not say this, I know it is wrong, but I am going to say it anyway. The Catholic Church calls that a sin.

2 - I have been around the ACC a lot and I know the standard in place is that star players get preferential treatment. Have a feeling that remark is not appreciate by the ACC in the slightest.

3 - Talk of a “double standard”. See the remark directly above.

it is inconceivable the ACCwouldtake no actions in response to these words. A fine at minimum would be automatic.

There being no public reprimand and fine announced by the ACC leads me to the conclusion a suspension is likely.

I can’t see the ACC tolerating such an attack on the integrity of the league without visible consequences.

The league has to publicly act to discourage such behavior.
 
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Capel made three statements that could get him suspended:

1 - I know Ishould not say this, I know it is wrong, but I am going to say it anyway. The Catholic Church calls that a sin.

2 - I have been around the ACC a lot and I know the standard in place is that star players get preferential treatment. Have a feeling that remark is not appreciate by the ACC in the slightest.

3 - Talk of a “double standard”. See the remark directly above.

it is inconceivable the ACCwouldtake no actions in response to these words. A fine at minimum would be automatic.

There being no public reprimand and fine announced by the ACC leads me to the conclusion a suspension is likely.

I can’t see the ACC tolerating such an attack on the integrity of the league without visible consequences.

The league will publicly act to discourage such behavior.
You've gone from "losing it" to "lost it".
 
You've gone from "losing it" to "lost it".
So you think The ACC will be perfectly satisfied to let Pitt’s statement take the place of statements or actions by the ACC? They will abrogate their responsibility in its entirety?

I can’t imagine that.

in what way is this not “reasonable”?
 
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So you think The ACC will be perfectly satisfied to let Pitt’s statement take the place of statements or actions by the ACC? They will abrogate their responsibility in its entirety?

That could happen, but I can’t imagine that.
It says that all parties, including the ACC, consider the matter resolved. If there were further consequences, they would have been announced there.
 
So you think The ACC will be perfectly satisfied to let Pitt’s statement take the place of statements or actions by the ACC? They will abrogate their responsibility in its entirety?

That could happen, but I can’t imagine that.
Yes
Capel is not the first nor last to make these comments
None were suspended
Stop thinking everything is a conspiracy
 
Yes
Capel is not the first nor last to make these comments
None were suspended
Stop thinking everything is a conspiracy
What were the actions taken by the league Against the other coaches?

Were any of them handled in “this” manner?

You really think what Pitt did with the public reprimand caused the ACC to act differently? Really?

That would be a first. A northern school influences the ACC powers that be.
 
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So you think The ACC will be perfectly satisfied to let Pitt’s statement take the place of statements or actions by the ACC? They will abrogate their responsibility in its entirety?

I can’t imagine that.

in what way is this not “reasonable”?

I don’t think this action took place in a vacuum. Strongly suspect that Pitt has had discussions with the ACC office over this issue prior to making the statement about Capel.
 
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I don’t think this action took place in a vacuum. Strongly suspect that Pitt has had discussions with the ACC office over this issue prior to making the statement about Capel.
Agree with that.

Just can’t imagine the ACC accepting the Pitt public reprimand as the “final answer” to defending “their” leagues integrity.

That does not make any sense.
 
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Agree with that.

Just can’t imagine the ACC accepting the Pitt public reprimand as the “final answer” to defending “their” leagues integrity.

it doesn’t cut it.
I think it does mean that the ACC and Pitt came to an agreement. Otherwise I don’t believe that the statement would’ve been issued had the ACC indicated otherwise.
 
I think it does mean that the ACC and Pitt came to an agreement. Otherwise I don’t believe that the statement would’ve been issued had the ACC indicated otherwise.
Could that agreement include a games suspension?
 
Do you really think that JC hasn’t complained about the officiating privately to league officials without any results and his frustrations couldn’t be contained any longer . He knew he would be reprimanded and fined , but felt strongly enough to speak publicly about it . Of course Pitt would issue the statement they did , hell they turned themselves in to save money on KS contract buyout and this is no different . Pitt will never win with this attitude from the powers to be . Looking appropriate and playing by the rules is far more important to them then winning .
 
Could that agreement include a games suspension?
I think if that was the case, it probably would have been in the announcement. It doesn’t make much sense to me to issue a statement, say in the statement that everyone considers it resolved, and then later announce a suspension.
 
I think if that was the case, it probably would have been in the announcement. It doesn’t make much sense to me to issue a statement, say in the statement that everyone considers it resolved, and then later announce a suspension.
Maybe it was agreed to and will not be announced, just evident.

Hey, I am not insisting it will happen. I just think it is more than a remote possibility Based on history and what has gone down at this point.
 
It should have came from the conference and not the University.

The optics on this does not look good. Coach stands up for his University and players.....and his own university reprimands him for it.
Agreed!!! The one who should get fired is Heather Lyke.
 
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We know he was not fined? We know Pitt was not fined?

We know the ACC had no announcement of their own in the works? We played Saturday, Pitt made its announcement Sunday.

Tommorrow is Monday. The sun will come up tomorrow.

Rather than not likely, I think a fine was automatic.

The release said: "The University of Pittsburgh, the ACC and Coach Capel consider this matter resolved and will have no further comment." That's about as clear as it gets, it's over.

I guess it's possible he or Pitt was fined and they didn't announce it, but I have no idea why the ACC would keep it a secret when they announce all the others.
 
What this boils down to:

How has the league acted in the past? Howwould you expect the league to act?

You really believe Pitt managed to influence the league to act in a different manner?


Answer those questions.

if there is no suspension, I guess they did.
 
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They publicly reprimand and fine the coach and / or school. It's happened plenty, most recently with Brey. Also happened to Narduzzi after a VT game years ago. Those two I recall clearly.

Nobody knows what happened with Pitt and the ACC. The fact is he wasn't fined by the ACC and Pitt did the public reprimanding. Draw your own conclusions.
 
I believe Pitt “sought” an agreement with the ACC. Their purpose in doing that was to prevent “The ACC” from publicly ripping Capel a new one.

A one game suspension would be considered a small price to pay.

Pitt wanted - “nothing to see (read) here.
 
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Capel made three statements that could get him suspended:

1 - I know Ishould not say this, I know it is wrong, but I am going to say it anyway. The Catholic Church calls that a sin.

2 - I have been around the ACC a lot and I know the standard in place is that star players get preferential treatment. Have a feeling that remark is not appreciate by the ACC in the slightest.

3 - Talk of a “double standard”. See the remark directly above.

it is inconceivable the ACCwouldtake no actions in response to these words. A fine at minimum would be automatic.

There being no public reprimand and fine announced by the ACC leads me to the conclusion a suspension is likely.

I can’t see the ACC tolerating such an attack on the integrity of the league without visible consequences.

The league has to publicly act to discourage such behavior.

1 - The Catholic Church also calls child abuse a sin, yet they spend millions of dollars to cover up their own systemic paedophilia. Are you really going to use that shameful organization to try to set a moral standard for a coach complaining about refs?

2 - Couldn't care less what they do or do not appreciate. Programs like Pitt will always be at a disadvantage compared to the league's traditional elite in terms of officiating bias regardless of what our coach says.

3- If your entire third point is "see remark above", you didn't need to make a third point.

The league should publicly act to discourage terrible officiating, not coaches from pointing it out.
 
1 - The Catholic Church also calls child abuse a sin, yet they spend millions of dollars to cover up their own systemic paedophilia. Are you really going to use that shameful organization to try to set a moral standard for a coach complaining about refs?

2 - Couldn't care less what they do or do not appreciate. Programs like Pitt will always be at a disadvantage compared to the league's traditional elite in terms of officiating bias regardless of what our coach says.

3- If your entire third point is "see remark above", you didn't need to make a third point.

The league should publicly act to discourage terrible officiating, not coaches from pointing it out.
I believe a female reporter asked Capel today if he and his staff would have a different demeanor moving forward. I thought that was a good question.

His one word answer was No.

One can not receive absolution without contrition.
 
Maybe it was agreed to and will not be announced, just evident.


Wait, so you think that the ACC has suspended Capel for tomorrow's game, but they have agreed to not tell anyone in what, the hopes that no one will notice that he's missing on the sideline tomorrow?

What, exactly, would be the point of doing that?
 
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Correct. Because Pitt is gaining the benefit of the whistle most games. Numbers don’t lie.

I’m not sure we gain the whistle as much as we just charge at the rim and plan to draw fouls because we aren’t that talented and can’t shoot.

Also, I think the frustration has a lot to do with the technicals and there’s no way those technicals have all been legit
 
Wait, so you think that the ACC has suspended Capel for tomorrow's game, but they have agreed to not tell anyone in what, the hopes that no one will notice that he's missing on the sideline tomorrow?

What, exactly, would be the point of doing that?
I have heard from an insider that the ACC has requested that Jason shave his head and coach during Jeff’s suspension tomorrow. They feel with the right face covering and lighting, few may notice.
 
Wait, so you think that the ACC has suspended Capel for tomorrow's game, but they have agreed to not tell anyone in what, the hopes that no one will notice that he's missing on the sideline tomorrow?

What, exactly, would be the point of doing that?
I think Pitt “sought“ an agreement. I think Pitt offered a one game suspension in lieu of the ACC ripping Coach Capel a new one for several of his comments.

With the arrest, departures, rumors, etc Pitt has had enough of Pitt and Capel in the news.
A one game suspension would be a small price to pay.

It is beyond believable that Capel would be treated differently than Brey.

Brey received an ACC public reprimand and a 20K fine.

Capel escapes that because Pitt did a public reprimand that was a mere quote of league policy with no overt criticism of their own?

The ACC would think that protects league integrity? I think not.
 
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I’m not sure we gain the whistle as much as we just charge at the rim and plan to draw fouls because we aren’t that talented and can’t shoot.

Also, I think the frustration has a lot to do with the technicals and there’s no way those technicals have all been legit
Sure. All technicals where there isn’t physical confrontation or direct yelling at the referees are pretty much bullshit.

But when you get the reputation of being an undisciplined team you’re gonna not gonna get the benefit of the doubt on technical calls.
 
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Correct. Because Pitt is gaining the benefit of the whistle most games. Numbers don’t lie.


You are correct, the numbers do not lie.

But of course the raw number of fouls called is not the number that means anything, in any meaningful sense. What matters is how many calls SHOULD be made versus how many ARE made. The ideal situation for officiating isn't to even the calls up, it is to call the correct number of fouls on each team.

If in tomorrow's game Pitt commits 20 fouls and Miami commits 10 but the refs call 15 fouls on both teams does that mean that the refs did a good job because the total number of fouls came out equal, or does it mean that they did a really bad job, because they screwed up a lot of calls?
 
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Wait, so you think that the ACC has suspended Capel for tomorrow's game, but they have agreed to not tell anyone in what, the hopes that no one will notice that he's missing on the sideline tomorrow?

What, exactly, would be the point of doing that?


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