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Pitt issues public reprimand for Capel

I have heard from an insider that the ACC has requested that Jason shave his head and coach during Jeff’s suspension tomorrow. They feel with the right face covering and lighting, few may notice.
Is Jason going to use a coloring book for his game plan? The stack of crayolas may be a giveaway
 
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I think Pitt “sought“ an agreement. I think Pitt offered a one game suspension in lieu of the ACC ripping Coach Capel a new one for several of his comments.


But what would be the point of lying about it and trying to hide it? It's like as if you don't realize that if Pitt and/or the ACC has suspended Capel for tomorrow's game that no one is going to find out about it. Which do you think causes more attention and more press, coming out and saying that Capel was suspended for a game for the comments he made or lying about there not being any further punishment and then everyone finding out that Capel was, in fact, suspended?

It's like you can't see or understand that the consequences of what you are proposing that Pitt has done would be exactly the opposite of what you think that Pitt is trying to accomplish.
 
You are correct, the numbers do not lie.

But of course the raw number of fouls called is not the number that means anything, in any meaningful sense. What matters is how many calls SHOULD be made versus how many ARE made. The ideal situation for officiating isn't to even the calls up, it is to call the correct number of fouls on each team.

If in tomorrow's game Pitt commits 20 fouls and Miami commits 10 but the refs call 15 fouls on both teams does that mean that the refs did a good job because the total number of fouls came out equal, or does it mean that they did a really bad job, because they screwed up a lot of calls?
Yes. The game should be called fairly, not evenly. And I would imagine every coach in the league looking at Pitt shooting almost 22 FT’s a game is saying wtf is he talking about. Because I’m sure they think THEYRE getting screwed each game.

It’s just an excuse.
 
I’m not sure we gain the whistle as much as we just charge at the rim and plan to draw fouls because we aren’t that talented and can’t shoot.

Also, I think the frustration has a lot to do with the technicals and there’s no way those technicals have all been legit
Agreed - the issue I have is the lack of consistency with the technicals.
 
But what would be the point of lying about it and trying to hide it? It's like as if you don't realize that if Pitt and/or the ACC has suspended Capel for tomorrow's game that no one is going to find out about it. Which do you think causes more attention and more press, coming out and saying that Capel was suspended for a game for the comments he made or lying about there not being any further punishment and then everyone finding out that Capel was, in fact, suspended?

It's like you can't see or understand that the consequences of what you are proposing that Pitt has done would be exactly the opposite of what you think that Pitt is trying to accomplish.
If Capel is not on the sideline tomorrow, I don’t see how anyone explicitly lied about anything.

He will not be present. the official, public reprimand spoke of consequences.

No one will question anything. They will simply recognize the obvious.

By this time tomorrow you can all jump me. That will not make my reasoning unreasonable.
 
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Yep. Pitt’s problems are:
1) lack of recruiting good players
2) lack of developing good players
3) lack of good coaching
99) officials
Can you comprehend that nobody is blaming the officials for losses when saying they are inconsistent and bad at their jobs ?
There is a difference between incompetent and biased

that’s today’s comprehension lesson
 
Can you comprehend that nobody is blaming the officials for losses when saying they are inconsistent and bad at their jobs ?
There is a difference between incompetent and biased

that’s today’s comprehension lesson
Today’s lesson should be:
Less bitching about officials doing their jobs and more holding our coaches and themselves holding them accountable for doing THEIR jobs.

THAT is today’s lesson.

Keep bitching about officials when we get blown out and have more FT’s Coach! Love that fight!
 
If Capel is not on the sideline tomorrow, I don’t see how anyone explicitly lied about anything.

He will not be present. the official, public reprimand spoke of consequences.

No one will question anything. They will simply recognize the obvious.

By this time tomorrow you can all jump me. That will not make my reasoning unreasonable.


If you think that Capel not being on the sidelines tomorrow won't bring any questions and that everyone will just assume that Pitt saying nothing meant that Pitt (or the ACC) suspended him so there is no need to ask anyone about it then man, you really do need to get off the computer and get out in the real world for a little while.

For someone to think that your reasoning was unreasonable they would have to first have evidence that what you are doing could be called reasoning. And so far, no.
 
Yes. The game should be called fairly, not evenly. And I would imagine every coach in the league looking at Pitt shooting almost 22 FT’s a game is saying wtf is he talking about. Because I’m sure they think THEYRE getting screwed each game.


We are first in the league in free throw rate on offense, and second worst in free throw rate on defense. For whatever reason our games have a lot more fouls called in them than a normal ACC game.

Must be that social distancing defense that we play confusing everyone.
 
We are first in the league in free throw rate on offense, and second worst in free throw rate on defense. For whatever reason our games have a lot more fouls called in them than a normal ACC game.

Must be that social distancing defense that we play confusing everyone.

That's funny that you should mention "social distancing defense". That's a good term to describe the Pitt defense we've seen with this team for the last few years. It's like they are at least 6 feet from every opposing player when playing defense. Either that or it's just lazy defense.
 
Today’s lesson should be:
Less bitching about officials doing their jobs and more holding our coaches and themselves holding them accountable for doing THEIR jobs.

THAT is today’s lesson.

Keep bitching about officials when we get blown out and have more FT’s Coach! Love that fight!
Cool
What are you doing to hold them accountable ?
Which checks are you writing to pressure the athletic department ?
None?
Bitching anonymously online doesn’t create pressure
 
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Cool
What are you doing to hold them accountable ?
Which checks are you writing to pressure the athletic department ?
None?
Bitching anonymously online doesn’t create pressure
Awesome retort. I should give 10 million and buy him out now and have Heather admit she’s a failure as an AD? Your condescending posts are boring.

Capel is full of excuses. 3 straight years.
 
All of this talk about officiating double standards and guess which school led the ACC in free throw attempts? That would be Pitt. Ironic, eh?
 
So that’s whining anonymously - right ?
You’re boring and repetitive
It’s okay
I know you’re missing being a trainer .
It will get better
Don’t even know what that means. Yes we’re all on here discussing hoops anonymously. If your point is that every post on here is dumb then it makes sense why you have posted 74,815 times
 
All of this talk about officiating double standards and guess which school led the ACC in free throw attempts? That would be Pitt. Ironic, eh?
No didn’t you watch the games! We didn’t get a fair whistle! How dare you bring up facts into an discussion based completely on emotion and opinions!
 
Don’t even know what that means. Yes we’re all on here discussing hoops anonymously. If your point is that every post on here is dumb then it makes sense why you have posted 74,815 times
You aren’t talking hoops
You’re yinzing as loud as you can
We all know your opinion
It’s entrenched and unable to change regardless of outcomes
You’re boring
 
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You aren’t talking hoops
You’re yinzing as loud as you can
We all know your opinion
It’s entrenched and unable to change regardless of outcomes
You’re boring
I’m boring because I bring facts into incessant bitching about an unfair whistle. It’s not an opinion. Pitt averaged more FT’s than every other ACC team. It’s bitching about the officials for the sake of bitching and deflecting blame.

and you will absolve all blame of everyone for 20 years because Kevin stallings coached here at one time. That makes you a better fan, imo.
 
All of this talk about officiating double standards and guess which school led the ACC in free throw attempts? That would be Pitt. Ironic, eh?
Actually Miami lead the in league play with 330 attempts vs Pitts 326 .

Couldn‘t find info on technical fouls . That was emphasized in his comments .

The timing of the calls plus the consistency is more important than the numbers .
 
Actually Miami lead the in league play with 330 attempts vs Pitts 326 .

Couldn‘t find info on technical fouls . That was emphasized in his comments .

The timing of the calls plus the consistency is more important than the numbers .
The stat is meaningless, Miami has played 3 more games than us.
 
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The stat is meaningless, Miami has played 3 more games than us.
You are correct , but in 3 more games Miami opponents have also shot 45 fewer FTs than Pitts opponents . Numbers aren’t the whole story .

Game film comparing what was called on Pitt and its opponent is the only true measure of fairness .
 
We get it
The idea that officials make inconsistent and bad calls constantly isn’t real
Despite all evidence to the contrary

You are asserting that the consistency of officiating is awful and that Pitt in particular has been hurt by it. I would argue that based on the rise in video reviews, and forced reviews in crunch situations, officiating accuracy has probably never been higher in the sport.

I'm not bothered by what Capel said, and I respect his disregard for his personal consequences if he feels an obligation to speak out about it. However, even if every call went Pitt's way, we're still in horrible shape. This is a dumb hill to die on.
 
You are asserting that the consistency of officiating is awful and that Pitt in particular has been hurt by it. I would argue that based on the rise in video reviews, and forced reviews in crunch situations, officiating accuracy has probably never been higher in the sport.

I'm not bothered by what Capel said, and I respect his disregard for his personal consequences if he feels an obligation to speak out about it. However, even if every call went Pitt's way, we're still in horrible shape. This is a dumb hill to die on.
I’m not suggesting Pitt was in particular hurt
Some timely bad calls did affect games - particularly the inconsistent technicals
You don’t need to infer content in my post that isn’t there .
I have no problem telling folks my opinion myself
 
Agreed but who knows if this came from the athletic department or from above. Either way it is weak and dumb.
The Pitt AD has been weak and dumb for several years. Pitt fails to get the basketball coach it wants, losing out to an AAC team. Pitt outmaneuvered in getting baseball games at PNC, Pitt embarrassingly botches the Stallings firing...
 
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The Pitt AD has been weak and dumb for several years. Pitt fails to get the basketball coach it wants, losing out to an AAC team. Pitt outmaneuvered in getting baseball games at PNC, Pitt embarrassingly botches the Stallings firing...


She is failing the two main sports
 
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Whatever your cup o tea is on the battles going on here, Capel has underachieving. Badly. His teams are undisciplined wrecking balls filled with players revolting, quitting, and giving low effort filled with bad body language.

Capel needs to be put in his place. He isn't doing the job. Brick by brick was cute, but it was BS. Hold him to account.
 
I’m not suggesting Pitt was in particular hurt
Some timely bad calls did affect games - particularly the inconsistent technicals
You don’t need to infer content in my post that isn’t there .
I have no problem telling folks my opinion myself

As I asked in another post, is Capel calling "bullshit" because other teams are being penalized unfairly? No. If you aren't suggesting that Pitt has been impacted more than other teams, why should we complain?

Rightly or wrongly, I am sure there are other coaches in the conference who would argue Pitt isn't being penalized enough. It all shakes out over the course of a season. This is just hot air.
 
As I asked in another post, is Capel calling "bullshit" because other teams are being penalized unfairly? No. If you aren't suggesting that Pitt has been impacted more than other teams, why should we complain?

Rightly or wrongly, I am sure there are other coaches in the conference who would argue Pitt isn't being penalized enough. It all shakes out over the course of a season. This is just hot air.
What I find totally insane about Capel’s comments is that, no more than a week or so prior, he literally threw X under the bus saying he couldn’t get him to stop jawing at refs and opposing players.

And then he turns around and makes a public statement complaining about the refs, there’s a double standard against Pitt, they’re treated unfairly. While doing so, he starts with the obligatory I like the refs, they’re all good guys, all doing a good job, but.....

Just shut up and coach....or recruit.
 
What I find totally insane about Capel’s comments is that, no more than a week or so prior, he literally threw X under the bus saying he couldn’t get him to stop jawing at refs and opposing players.

And then he turns around and makes a public statement complaining about the refs, there’s a double standard against Pitt, they’re treated unfairly. While doing so, he starts with the obligatory I like the refs, they’re all good guys, all doing a good job, but.....

Just shut up and coach....or recruit.

Yes, Capel's statements are hypocritical. He needs to do all 3 of what you mentioned, and so far he hasn't done any of them too well.

I suppose that it isn't unprecedented that a coach who is doing a poor job suddenly turns it around and recruits the players he needs to help the program get back on the winning side. Maybe Capel can do that in the next year or 2. That's about all the time he has left if he doesn't.
 
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What I find totally insane about Capel’s comments is that, no more than a week or so prior, he literally threw X under the bus saying he couldn’t get him to stop jawing at refs and opposing players.

And then he turns around and makes a public statement complaining about the refs, there’s a double standard against Pitt, they’re treated unfairly. While doing so, he starts with the obligatory I like the refs, they’re all good guys, all doing a good job, but.....

Just shut up and coach....or recruit.

The issue as I tried to explain in a previous comment is that the accuracy of calls really has never been better, but that makes the few bad calls stand out even more. I personally remember many games in the Big East where fans were incredulous over guys like Tim Higgins. I'm not sure how anyone can objectively say that calls are worse in 2021 than they were in 2006.

As I said, I think it is fine if Capel is mad enough about a few potentially bogus technical calls to comment on it and risk personal repercussions. I don't agree it's a wise thing to do, or a great example for his players, who you note already have a reputation for arguing with refs, but he's an established ACC coach and maybe he knows what he's doing. I just think posing this as some sort of righteous crusade is laughable.

Pitt loses games because Pitt is a bad team. If they lost a single game attributable to bad refereeing, that means they still had 21 other games that went just fine.
 
Using officiating in any way as an excuse for losing games, by the coach or the fans, is the trademark of losers. Yes, we know the officiating isn't always equitable. Nothing in life is equitable. Deal with it. Poor officiating is seldom if ever a reason for a team to lose a game. Poor teams and poor coaching is always the reason games are lost. That's what we have now at Pitt.
 
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Using officiating in any way as an excuse for losing games, by the coach or the fans, is the trademark of losers. Yes, we know the officiating isn't always equitable. Nothing in life is equitable. Deal with it. Poor officiating is seldom if ever a reason for a team to lose a game. Poor teams and poor coaching is always the reason games are lost. That's what we have now at Pitt.
Actually I think Capel has blamed COVID much more than anything. It is definitely his go to excuse.
 
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