He did?
The offense has sucked since the first half of the Cal game .
If you are seeing open receivers - maybe you should be the quarterback - because they can’t see them .
Problem isn't Cade Bell.
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The offense has sucked since the first half of the Cal game .
If you are seeing open receivers - maybe you should be the quarterback - because they can’t see them .
That's the part that is driving me nuts. I refuse to believe that all of a sudden Daniel Carter and Rodney Hammond forgot how to run the ball. I was excited when Hammond came back and thought he'd thrive in this new offense. There has to be so much more.
If only there were a profession, say a collection of guys, and the description of the job was to ask questions about things concerning the program.
The other thing that has killed me is the refusal to give any help, in the guise of say an extra tackle on the left side, or at the very least put Overman there and let him help.
I like Des Reid but, 5'8", 175 ain't going to power an offense.
I think this offense is now 12 of its last 50 third down attempts.
Because they have a bad OL, very little semblance of a running game, and piss poor QB play. The offense really wasn't good against Cincinnati or WVU.
If Pitt doesn't get explosive plays, they have always had trouble sustaining drives against any competent defense.
They don't have the talent to be a good offense. Coaching matters. Talent matters more.
I agree that there are too many penalties. That's on him to fix. But Pitt easily wins this game if the QB can make simple throws better or didn't drop all those balls.
Other coaches get paid too.
The book is out .
The free fail would have began sooner if not for 3 pick sixes against Cuse
And missed FGs bailing us out against cal.
As far as playing fast, Id put my money on Nard as the culprit. Even though he talks that they like to go fast, after every game he would make a remark about not needing to go fast all the time. Plus, I think they are slowing it down for Eli.
You can also tell Bell has not put in his full playbook. Watching the plays he was calling at Western.. Its a little different. He doesnt run the ball, because they are tackled for loses on most carries he has to throw. You cannot establish a running game when there is quick penetration on literally every snap of the football.
They have to get some OL who can get out quicker on the WR screens, get out in space not necessarily blow guys off the ball, but it least contain them as a unit. These OL were not recruited for this offense. I know they claim they worked out to adjust to it, but it does not seem to come naturally. So now you are seeing those pre-snap penalties that most was expecting to see to start the season. I always wondered if Bell wanted to bring over at least 1 or 2 of his past OL.
It's going to be a challenge to recruit OL for this system. Running tempo alone is probably enough to turn some OL recruits off.
Speaking of tempo, I think it's a combo of things. I don't think Bell fully trusts his QB. I think a lot of it is also on the OL. I think tempo sort of compounds the problems you mentioned about the OL recruited for this offense.
They've completely abandoned the running game, especially early in games. And to make it worse, they've abandoned the running game against defensive fronts that are daring you to run the ball. Bell has become far too pass happy.
The Bell presser was pretty good. Said teams blitzed the first few weeks because that's what you do against a rookie QB but Holstein picked them apart. Now, teams are dropping 7 and 8 into coverage so Eli has to adjust to that. Lets not forget that the kid is a freshman. He's never thrown into 7-8 man coverages. He's seeing all this stuff for the first time.
Cade Bell is a bad hire. He clearly does not teach or coach well in practice. Teams play like they practice.
Holstein has a few issues with feet and hip position on the bad passes. He could be great. He needs better coaching.
Cade Bell is a fraud. Narduzzi needs to cut his losses. Narduzzi’s three worst hires, 1 Cignetti, 2 Bell, 3 Watson.
Keep trying Pat. Get the next one right
This board is bipolar. 5 weeks ago people were worried we’d lose Bell to an SEC school and now people want to fire him.
What's drilled in practice doesn't always translate consistent on the field on game day. And teams don't always play like they practice.
I'm not going to blame the QB missing easy throws or the WRs dropping easy catches on the OC or practice.
Only a moron wouldnt agree with this. Sure, he has a few lapses in calls, as does everyone. But, receivers dropping passes, OL decimated and QBs missing wide open WRs.
Coaching has been excellent all season. This isnt comparable to years past, clearly this is a good staff
When they were 7 and 0, there was not one complaint about the coaching staff. I dont know why, but losing the 2 OL in the Cal game, changed everything with the offense.
Its just astounding how much losing those 2 players meant to the offense.
Since the second half of the cal game, the offense has been sputtering for sure
The confusion at the Clemson 2 yard line, seemed to be a coaching issue to me. Even after the time out, the players didn’t seem to know what to do. That tells me that they weren’t prepared for the plays that were called in that situation.
I would just like to see them commit more to the run early in games. It's up to the coaches to adjust to the talent and strengths of their players. That's part of the job. The right coaches can scheme and call games in a way to beat better talent. The talent gap is not as wide as everyone says it is. That's just an excuse and not a very good one. I get it players make mistakes. But there are a lot of players making the same mistakes and its time to coach to our strengths and away from the weaknesses. Unfortunatley a lot coordinators want to win with their system and make a name for themselves and are stoo tubborn to change even at the expense of winning. I'm not saying this is why our OC won't adapt, but he needs to as winning should always be more important.
That said I like Cade's system and he shows a lot of promise. He deserves to grow into the position. I think if the team hadn't srarted 7-0 we would have more patience for him to do that. But it's way harder to have patience when a great opportunity is squandered because coaching was substandard the past few weeks. Even the SMU game got out of hand because our offense should have been able to better sustain drives. Constantly going into shotgun without much of an attempt to establish a running game made it way too easy for their defense and hence all the three and outs early in the game.
Still I disagree with anyone who says we should move on or he isn't the right guy. I think with more time and experience he could be a great one and maybe even a logical successor to Duz someday if he doesn't go somewhere else first.
That said I like Cade's system and he shows a lot of promise. He deserves to grow into the position. I think if the team hadn't srarted 7-0 we would have more patience for him to do that. But it's way harder to have patience when a great opportunity is squandered because coaching was substandard the past few weeks. Even the SMU game got out of hand because our offense should have been able to better sustain drives. Constantly going into shotgun without much of an attempt to establish a running game made it way too easy for their defense and hence all the three and outs early in the game.
Still I disagree with anyone who says we should move on or he isn't the right guy. I think with more time and experience he could be a great one and maybe even a logical successor to Duz someday if he doesn't go somewhere else first.
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