Problem isn't Cade Bell.

[PittPharm2002]

Yeah but he schemed up plenty of wide open looks. Average throws and catches would have gotten it done and we didn’t get that.

It should have been a 30 point output just doing the basics - with upside of someone actually did some spectacular things.

He did?

The offense has sucked since the first half of the Cal game .
If you are seeing open receivers - maybe you should be the quarterback - because they can’t see them .

 

[PittPharm2002]

you need a RB that can actually run to make that happen

We have 3 good RBs
That’s BS

 

[PittPharm2002]

I mean, the QB missing easy throws and WRs dropping easy catches has nothing to do with scouting.

Have you been in a coma since the first half of the Cal game ?!?

 

[PittAU]

We have 3 good RBs
That’s BS

That's the part that is driving me nuts. I refuse to believe that all of a sudden Daniel Carter and Rodney Hammond forgot how to run the ball. I was excited when Hammond came back and thought he'd thrive in this new offense. There has to be so much more.

If only there were a profession, say a collection of guys, and the description of the job was to ask questions about things concerning the program.

The other thing that has killed me is the refusal to give any help, in the guise of say an extra tackle on the left side, or at the very least put Overman there and let him help.

I like Des Reid but, 5'8", 175 ain't going to power an offense.

 

[PittAU]

I think this offense is now 12 of its last 50 third down attempts.

 

[PittPharm2002]

I think this offense is now 12 of its last 50 third down attempts.

But some are saying “it’s not bell”

There is now a 3 game sample of bad offense

 

[TD_6082]

That’s mostly on the QB that people for whom people were begging to go in.

I blame the coaches for the slow start. We looked sluggish and unmotivated

As the game went on, the coaches did fine. Louis’s interception was a fantastic design where it looked like he was rushing than dropped back. And like I said - plenty of plays left out there on offense where guys were schemed wide open.

People love to blame the coach because it’s a simplier explanation for their team sucking. But the fact was, our players left plays out there all game.

This

 

[TD_6082]

But some are saying “it’s not bell”

There is now a 3 game sample of bad offense

Because they have a bad OL, very little semblance of a running game, and piss poor QB play. The offense really wasn't good against Cincinnati or WVU.

If Pitt doesn't get explosive plays, they have always had trouble sustaining drives against any competent defense.

They don't have the talent to be a good offense. Coaching matters. Talent matters more.

 

[HailtoPitt]

My problem is that he is a one trick pony,
1st down plays are horrible, not just this game, most of the games, loss of yardage, etc. He seems to think hurrying to the line as soon as a 1st down is acquired is some cure all, but defenses are used to it, so many teams do it, plus all the shifting etc.,(not so much this week) the defenses are barely moving or adjusting and then stuffing the plays, he is gaining little advantage with all those bells and whistles, in the mean time this offensive pre-snap movement is good for at least one penalty a half, start out 1st and 15.

All that pressure all night, how many times did he call plays that moved the pocket for example? I think "0", so the opposing d line t's off knowing exactly where the the aiming point is.

etc., etc.

I agree that there are too many penalties. That's on him to fix. But Pitt easily wins this game if the QB can make simple throws better or didn't drop all those balls.

 

[PittPharm2002]

I agree that there are too many penalties. That's on him to fix. But Pitt easily wins this game if the QB can make simple throws better or didn't drop all those balls.

Other coaches get paid too.
The book is out .
The free fail would have began sooner if not for 3 pick sixes against Cuse
And missed FGs bailing us out against cal.

 

[ebonylover40]

I've really become disappointed in the offense and specifically Bell. Grant it and OC would struggle with this o-line, but this isn't the same offense we saw at the beginning of the year. What happened to play fast score faster? Literally every play they are all looking to the sideline for a play and not snapping until under 10 on play clock. Heck we even got a delay of game coming off a kick return! Tempo is gone; tried it a little. I think it was the series Eli got hurt. Were starting to get a little rhythm on that drive and then suddenly the injury and that was all she wrote.

EDIT: Also, PLEASE DO NOT RUN DES REID UP THE MIDDLE ON 3RD AND SHORT. IT WILL NEVER WORK!!

As far as playing fast, Id put my money on Nard as the culprit. Even though he talks that they like to go fast, after every game he would make a remark about not needing to go fast all the time. Plus, I think they are slowing it down for Eli.

You can also tell Bell has not put in his full playbook. Watching the plays he was calling at Western.. Its a little different. He doesnt run the ball, because they are tackled for loses on most carries he has to throw. You cannot establish a running game when there is quick penetration on literally every snap of the football.

They have to get some OL who can get out quicker on the WR screens, get out in space not necessarily blow guys off the ball, but it least contain them as a unit. These OL were not recruited for this offense. I know they claim they worked out to adjust to it, but it does not seem to come naturally. So now you are seeing those pre-snap penalties that most was expecting to see to start the season. I always wondered if Bell wanted to bring over at least 1 or 2 of his past OL.

 

[TD_6082]

As far as playing fast, Id put my money on Nard as the culprit. Even though he talks that they like to go fast, after every game he would make a remark about not needing to go fast all the time. Plus, I think they are slowing it down for Eli.

You can also tell Bell has not put in his full playbook. Watching the plays he was calling at Western.. Its a little different. He doesnt run the ball, because they are tackled for loses on most carries he has to throw. You cannot establish a running game when there is quick penetration on literally every snap of the football.

They have to get some OL who can get out quicker on the WR screens, get out in space not necessarily blow guys off the ball, but it least contain them as a unit. These OL were not recruited for this offense. I know they claim they worked out to adjust to it, but it does not seem to come naturally. So now you are seeing those pre-snap penalties that most was expecting to see to start the season. I always wondered if Bell wanted to bring over at least 1 or 2 of his past OL.

It's going to be a challenge to recruit OL for this system. Running tempo alone is probably enough to turn some OL recruits off.

Speaking of tempo, I think it's a combo of things. I don't think Bell fully trusts his QB. I think a lot of it is also on the OL. I think tempo sort of compounds the problems you mentioned about the OL recruited for this offense.

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

We have 3 good RBs
That’s BS

They've completely abandoned the running game, especially early in games. And to make it worse, they've abandoned the running game against defensive fronts that are daring you to run the ball. Bell has become far too pass happy.