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OT: Steelers Draft 2025

Here's their choices, overpay for an old tread or roll the dice on a young retread. That's on him. If it's not mismanagement, it's gross incompetence.


What was the alternative? Who could they have brought in last year who was both cheap and good? Cheap and good quarterbacks only come from one place. They aren't available on the market, not last year, not pretty much ever.
 
I don’t care if Fields is their guy or not. But look at the list of UFA QBs. He might not be the best but there also isn’t much better.

Darnold is arguably the best available and he’s expected to get $114million / 3 years. He had a great year but also fell off a cliff at the end. Is he $30 million a year better? Is he even a solution?

The rest of the lot are former high picks like Fields, Lance, Mac Jones. Journeymen former starters like Russ, Teddy B, Flacco, and Crab Legs Winston. Or career backups.

You can fail with any of them. Maybe a vet gets a couple extra wins, but I like the strategy of taking the chance that one of those young guys figures it out over being in the same spot in a year with no long term plan.
The problem is the Higher end of that group will look for better situations than the Steelers The only guys who would sign with the Steelers are guys who can’t hook up with better offenses

Perhaps if the Steelers had left offensive weapons or their OL was dominant they’d be able to sign a higher end Fa. But that is clearly not the case
 
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I don't think Herbig is a starter in this league. You can put him in during obvious pass rush situations, but he's not durable (or talented - particularly against the run) enough to be an every-down guy.

In my opinion, if you shop Watt you do so with the notion in mind that it's just about getting younger... so you follow it up by taking an edge guy in the first round.
Agreed, particularly with your first bolded sentence. That’d be the absolute best-scenario; get a top prospect like Carter while trading Watt at the (likely) peak of his trade value. I’m guessing his market would be similar to Garrett’s.

We’ve been doing the same song-and-dance for four years now… I’m OK with taking a few risks for once.
 
I don't think it's been mismanaged. The worst case is signing a bad QB to a bad contract. Unless the Steelers can acquire a proven veteran or go all-in on drafting and developing a rookie QB they mine as well spend as little as possible on the position. As you said, it's a bunch of bad options so no need to overspend. That would be dumb.
This is a good take.

Personally, I think they should go “cheap” for one more season and bring back Fields until they draft a QB in 2026 (in front of the home crowd!). Look at what we did in the early 2000s before drafting Big Ben; went “cheap” with Slash and Tommy Gun while investing in everyone around them. Then they were able to draft a rookie quarterback and immediately contend with the team intact while Ben was on his rookie deal. The Chiefs did the same thing leading up to drafting Mahomes… IMO, we still have a ways to go.

The last thing I want to do is put a rookie quarterback, or really any QB you invest heavily into, in the same situation that Pickett was in three years ago. He likely wouldn’t have turned out to be an All-Pro anyways, but we botched that process worse than the Browns.
 
What was the alternative? Who could they have brought in last year who was both cheap and good? Cheap and good quarterbacks only come from one place. They aren't available on the market, not last year, not pretty much ever.

The alternative is taking honest look at the overall talent on this roster and accept the reality that they are a .500ish team. If they did that.... they would realize that they could go .500 or better with Pickett while dumping their overpaid assets like TJ and Minkah (like many, including myself have suggested the last 2 years).

If Pickett isn't the answer, use the draft capital to get a franchise QB.
 
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The alternative is taking honest look at the overall talent on this roster and accept the reality that they are a .500ish team. If they did that.... they would realize that they could go .500 or better with Pickett while dumping their overpaid assets like TJ and Minkah (like many, including myself have suggested the last 2 years).


If you take an honest look at it, there is simply no way that the Stillers are ever going to tank a season. When it happens, it's going to happen "organically".

And there is no way, literally none, that the Stillers dump some of their best players and play Kenny P all year at quarterback and still finish over .500.
 
If you take an honest look at it, there is simply no way that the Stillers are ever going to tank a season. When it happens, it's going to happen "organically".

And there is no way, literally none, that the Stillers dump some of their best players and play Kenny P all year at quarterback and still finish over .500.

"And there is no way, literally none, that the Stillers dump some of their best players and play Kenny P all year at quarterback and still finish over .500."

That's the point.
 
"And there is no way, literally none, that the Stillers dump some of their best players and play Kenny P all year at quarterback and still finish over .500."

That's the point.
I'm confused.

The alternative is taking honest look at the overall talent on this roster and accept the reality that they are a .500ish team. If they did that.... they would realize that they could go .500 or better with Pickett while dumping their overpaid assets like TJ and Minkah (like many, including myself have suggested the last 2 years).

If Pickett isn't the answer, use the draft capital to get a franchise QB.
 
Damn, screwed that up, let's try again!

The part where you said:

they would realize that they could go .500 or better with Pickett while dumping their overpaid assets like TJ and Minkah

And then after I said that there was no way they would do that you said:

That's the point.


So which is it, they would go .500 or better with Pickett and without players like Watt and Fitzpatrick, or is there no way that they would go over .500 if they did that?
 
The problem is the Higher end of that group will look for better situations than the Steelers The only guys who would sign with the Steelers are guys who can’t hook up with better offenses

Perhaps if the Steelers had left offensive weapons or their OL was dominant they’d be able to sign a higher end Fa. But that is clearly not the case
What better situations though? How many teams have no entrenched starter or no recent pick that they are grooming? Jets, Browns, Tennessee, Raiders, and Giants. That’s it. Two of those will draft QBs in the first round. Maybe Darnold signs with another. So you have 3-4 clubs sifting through a pile of re-treads to find starters.
 
moving on from pickett was a no - brainer, they werent winning with him. The problem is, they had no plan to fix the QB position. russell wilson isnt it, most people kind of new this except for dei mike.
 
What was the alternative? Who could they have brought in last year who was both cheap and good? Cheap and good quarterbacks only come from one place. They aren't available on the market, not last year, not pretty much ever.
I think the answer lies in what you think of where they are today versus where they might have been with Rudolph and KP. Those two guys were cheap and you had one, or both, for a couple more years. Would the Steelers have likely ended up any worse this year? Would it matter if they did?

The problem with the franchise is that it doesn't realize that it's not in a good place. They have a, "we can win now" mentality which is ridiculous. Especially when you can't seem to find any way to improve the O-Line and your skill players keep washing out. You're declining the option of your first round RB and you think you're going to make a playoff run?
 
moving on from pickett was a no - brainer, they werent winning with him. The problem is, they had no plan to fix the QB position. russell wilson isnt it, most people kind of new this except for dei mike.
They probably would not have won with Pickett (or possibly Rudolph) but he was cheap and still under contract. They didn't win with Wilson or Fields, either. It's not the QB position that's really the underlying problem and this past season is all the proof we need. Is there really any QB in the league that makes this franchise a contender? No. The problems are much deeper than one position.
 
They probably would not have won with Pickett (or possibly Rudolph) but he was cheap and still under contract. They didn't win with Wilson or Fields, either. It's not the QB position that's really the underlying problem and this past season is all the proof we need. Is there really any QB in the league that makes this franchise a contender? No. The problems are much deeper than one position.
so they got rid of an ineffective and cheap qb and brought in 2 ineffective and cheap qbs.

maybe cheap and ineffective isnt the way to go with QB.
 
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