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No one is arguing Covid saved Pitt football but to deny it didn't give Pickett another year is foolish. And again a waiver he wouldn't have needed hadn't Narduzzi wasted his redshirt. Pat appreciates your blind loyalty
I'm not denying it gave Kenny an extra year. I'm also not denying he wouldn't have got it anyway, or that about 20 other things could have happened in 2020 and 2021. You want to ignore everything else because Pat apparently kicked your puppy, as he did badby's and kennyheisman's.

Pitt won the ACC in 2021 with Pat Narduzzi as HC. Accept it and get over it.
 
I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing this silliness about if Covid didn't happen and saving Pitt football.

If we had just played the original Covid schedule, I'm guessing we'd have gone something between 7-5 and 9-3.

Miami of Ohio
@ Marshall
Richmond
Duke
@ Miami
Notre Dame
Georgia Tech
@ FSU
Virginia Tech
@ UNC
@ Virginia
Syracuse

Impossible to say, obviously, but we were pretty tit for tat with Louisville (3-7), BC (5-5), and NC State (7-3). I know the practice schedules would have changed, but we were a pretty experienced team that should have only benefitted from less practice for every team. Nonetheless, I'll leave the door open to say up to 9-3. At Marshall had danger written all over it, and UNC was a lot better in 2020 than they were in 2021.

One thing that is definitely not up for debate is whether or not we could have won the ACC in 2020. It was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that we didn't belong on the same field as that Clemson team. So it definitely worked out.
 
And none of your hypotheticals or anyone else's change the FACT that Nardontzi F'd up big time in that moment. That is indisputable.
Was just gonna say the same thing. If this, if that, whatever. Sometimes it can be fun to play the what if game so I’m not immune from it.

In any event, in the moment, playing KP in that spot is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen. And not just in sports. It’s mind numbingly stupid. Having a walk on olineman take that snap would have been better. There was nothing to gain there, only lose.
 
And none of your hypotheticals or anyone else's change the FACT that Nardontzi F'd up big time in that moment. That is indisputable.
It is completely disputable. Have you not learned yet that Narduzzi is NOT the coach that sends players into games. It is and has been the position coach making that decision.
 
I'm not denying it gave Kenny an extra year. I'm also not denying he wouldn't have got it anyway, or that about 20 other things could have happened in 2020 and 2021. You want to ignore everything else because Pat apparently kicked your puppy, as he did badby's and kennyheisman's.

Pitt won the ACC in 2021 with Pat Narduzzi as HC. Accept it and get over it.
In the music industry they call that a "one hit wonder" and I'm way over it as are most potential recruits. Enjoy your mediocrity
 
It is completely disputable. Have you not learned yet that Narduzzi is NOT the coach that sends players into games. It is and has been the position coach making that decision.
I guess I was raised differently I thought the Head Coach was in charge and ultimately responsible.
 
I guess I was raised differently I thought the Head Coach was in charge and ultimately responsible.

You'd have to be a flat out crackhead to believe Pat Narduzzi has no say in personnel decisions. Particularly at quarterback. I know what he said in that interview earlier this year, but I also know he's said a hundred other things that contradict it. Only the truly gullible would buy it.
 
You'd have to be a flat out crackhead to believe Pat Narduzzi has no say in personnel decisions. Particularly at quarterback. I know what he said in that interview earlier this year, but I also know he's said a hundred other things that contradict it. Only the truly gullible would buy it.
Beginning to think the worst of these two guys (Duz and Tomlin) and not just their actual coaching. Combined they have like nearly thirty years continuity in their current jobs, yet neither seem to have ANY role involving ANY activity with the team. 😆Man, nice gigs to have!
 
I guess I was raised differently I thought the Head Coach was in charge and ultimately responsible.
He accepted responsibility. That doesn't change the fact that he wasn't the one who made the call.
 
You'd have to be a flat out crackhead to believe Pat Narduzzi has no say in personnel decisions. Particularly at quarterback. I know what he said in that interview earlier this year, but I also know he's said a hundred other things that contradict it. Only the truly gullible would buy it.
Its been said multiple times through the years.

You can choose to call him a liar. That's your prerogative. But it doesn't make you right.
 
He accepted responsibility. That doesn't change the fact that he wasn't the one who made the call.
He hired his staff so he is ultimately responsible and and the assertion that he accepted responsibility is laughable. Being a weasel is a large part of his character. Just ask his former offensive coordinators.
 
He hired his staff so he is ultimately responsible and and the assertion that he accepted responsibility is laughable. Being a weasel is a large part of his character. Just ask his former offensive coordinators.
You've always been a hater and an eternal pessimist. Your comments mean nothing to me.
 
Reality is not the same as negativity.
The "reality" of Pitt football right now is 1-4 please explain how that can be described if not in a negative way? Refusing to face facts doesn't make them go away. Believing Narduzzi boasts and BS is your right but it doesn't change the results
 
I'm not denying it gave Kenny an extra year. I'm also not denying he wouldn't have got it anyway, or that about 20 other things could have happened in 2020 and 2021. You want to ignore everything else because Pat apparently kicked your puppy, as he did badby's and kennyheisman's.

Pitt won the ACC in 2021 with Pat Narduzzi as HC. Accept it and get over it.
Well if he kicked my puppy, he must have fellated yours, NC's and Sauce's. Your collective efforts to defend the indefensible by any means possible go beyond zealotry.
 
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The "reality" of Pitt football right now is 1-4 please explain how that can be described if not in a negative way? Refusing to face facts doesn't make them go away. Believing Narduzzi boasts and BS is your right but it doesn't change the results
Where have I ever denied that Pitt is 1-4 and stated that is not a bad record? Where have I ever stated a belief in Narduzzi boasts and "BS" (whatever that is)?
 
It's a FACT that without Covid waiver Pickett does not play . Do you honestly believe they win ACC that year without him?

lol, it's a fact, yeah right you know for sure. There was a pretty good chance Pickett gets a waiver and would have got the extra year in 2021 without covid, similar to the way Hamlin got a waiver for an extra year.
 
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Where have I ever denied that Pitt is 1-4 and stated that is not a bad record? Where have I ever stated a belief in Narduzzi boasts and "BS" (whatever that is)?
When I point out Narduzzi's poor coaching, recruiting , punk attitude you accuse me of being negative. Without being "negative" describe this season , Narduzzi's recruiting and his punk mouth?
 
Eh, we should take a breather on ripping Narduzzi. It took some forcing but he finally did what he had to do. He had to swallow some pride, which most coaches won’t do. He still needed to continue the side show drama with Jurk moving to tight end (will Jurk change his number?). But it got done.

Hey who knows, with our shaky OL we rarely keep our QBs healthy (those palookas got two of them injured for multiple weeks each in just one game last season). So Phil may yet have to ride in on the white horse, though it will really be more like a one legged mule.
 
When I point out Narduzzi's poor coaching, recruiting , punk attitude you accuse me of being negative. Without being "negative" describe this season , Narduzzi's recruiting and his punk mouth?
You just proved my point.

Your negativity isn't just this season. It is forever.
 
It is completely disputable. Have you not learned yet that Narduzzi is NOT the coach that sends players into games. It is and has been the position coach making that decision.
Yes…true….this HC should sit in the stands for all he contributes to the team during the course of the game.
 
You just proved my point.

Your negativity isn't just this season. It is forever.
Once again you refuse to answer. You can't honestly describe this season without being negative so you choose to attack me rather than Narduzzi. Enjoy
 
Once again you refuse to answer. You can't honestly describe this season without being negative so you choose to attack me rather than Narduzzi. Enjoy
I answered with a clarification of my prior statements. You are and always have been negative, even during great seasons.
 
LOL. He does exactly what 95% of all HCs do.
Point out another coach who has ever stood on the dais and trumpeted as loudly as possible to the world: I stay away from the offensive meetings because that’s not my gig; and I don’t get involved in personnel decisions. His self-awareness is a negative number. And the suggestion that good HCs don’t oversee every aspect of a program, particularly key personnel decisions, such as QB, is dead wrong.
 
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I answered with a clarification of my prior statements. You are and always have been negative, even during great seasons.
"Great" I'm assuming you're going back to Jackie Sherrill. That was indeed a great Era in Pitt Football and before Lair so not sure what you're referring too. I will just agree to disagree with you on the Pitt football program under Narduzzi.
 
Point out another coach who has ever stood on the dais and trumpeted as loudly as possible to the world: I stay away from the offensive meetings because that’s not my gig; and I don’t get involved in personnel decisions. His self-awareness is a negative number. And the suggestion that good HCs don’t oversee every aspect of a program, particularly key personnel decisions, such as QB, is dead wrong.
What does that have to do with coaching during the game?

Name a head coach that would have made the call in the Pickett situation. It was a split-second decision where a player had to go into the game.
 
He doesn’t
He does substantially less and skirts responsibility and accountability for glaring problems .
He’s not a good coach .
Your opinion.

Seems to vary substantially with the AD and many, many others, including mine.
 
What does that have to do with coaching during the game?

Name a head coach that would have made the call in the Pickett situation. It was a split-second decision where a player had to go into the game.
There’s a slew of other evidence that this coach’s decision making on game day also leaves a lot to be desired…..in addition to the macro issue I mentioned of his divorcing himself from major decisions as regards personnel and the offense as whole.

The decision to stick Pickett in for one play his freshman year was disorganization to the nth degree. Had Pickett started the next couple of games then you could validly argue it was the intention to burn his RS all along( but he didn’t)so it was clear that Narduzzi was flying by the seat of his disorganized pants when he inserted Pickett for that one play. You want some other examples: Briggs winning a coin toss and electing not to defer but to kickoff meaning Pitt kicked off at the start both half’s of the same game; watching OSU exploit Pitt’s pass defense consecutive years without a single major adjustment; watching NC covert approximately 4 consecutive 4 th downs in a game winning drive; kicking a FG against Penn ST down 10 with under 5 minutes left in the game, and then the worst defensive coaching job of all time…WM picking apart Pitt’s D with the same run/pass option play 2 years ago. It absolutely pains me to say that this guy’s in-game coaching blunders are absolutely legendary. Yet when interviewed about many of these situations and plays he deflected responsibility and pointed a finger of blame at his assistants…..very sad.
 
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There’s a slew of other evidence that this coach’s decision making on game day also leaves a lot to be desired…..in addition to the macro issue I mentioned of his divorcing himself from major decisions as regards personnel and the offense as whole.

The decision to stick Pickett in for one play his freshman year was disorganization to the nth degree. Had Pickett started the next couple of games then you could validly argue it was the intention to burn his RS all along( but he didn’t)so it was clear that Narduzzi was flying by the seat of his disorganized pants when he inserted Pickett for that one play. You want some other examples: Briggs winning a coin toss and electing not to defer but to kickoff meaning Pitt kicked off at the start both half’s of the same game; watching OSU exploit Pitt’s pass defense consecutive years without a single major adjustment; watching NC covert approximately 4 consecutive 4 th downs in a game winning drive; kicking a FG against Penn ST down 10 with under 5 minutes left in the game, and then the worst defensive coaching job of all time…WM picking apart Pitt’s D with the same run/pass option play 2 years ago. It absolutely pains me to say that this guy’s in-game coaching blunders are absolutely legendary. Yet when interviewed about many of these situations and plays he deflected responsibility and pointed a finger of blame at his assistants…..very sad.
LOL.

How does anyone respond to such nonsense ... other than to laugh.
 
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