Ridiculous

[Chairman Moe]

3-7 Tennessee vs 5-4 WVU @ the Liberty Bowl? Gimme a fricken break.

And surprise surprise, both OSU and ND make it to the playoffs. Clemson and Alabama? No doubt; easy call. TAM, Cincinnati, and hell yeah, even Coastal Carolina deserved a shot at the Natl Championship over ND and O$U. ND loses @ home vs Clemson if Lawrence QB’d that game ...

I guess, given the teams that opted out, a 2 win U South Carolina and 3 win U Tenn look desirable. What a joke this bowl season’s become. I may give the entire NCAA Football post-season a “Sun Bowl”; aka an “El Paso” ...

Wake me up next year or later when something meaningful happens ...

Sarcasm intended ...

 

[bayardstreet]

The South Carolina players will be using their bowl game to audition for their new coach in an attempt to keep their scholarships for next year. As far as Tennessee is concerned, they shouldnt be allowed anywhere near Memphis. You would think the chancellor would have stepped in and said enough is enough but the SEC is it’s own unique sports institution. They have their own rules and mission

 

[pierre93]

And wvcc avoided playing Oklahoma or they'd be 5-5. Atrocious and pathetic but if the roles were reversed Pitt would be getting slammed in the Pittsburgh media. Go Volunteers!!!

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

So what? It’s another game. They want to play. All non playoff bowl games are just exhibition games anyways.

 

[bayardstreet]

Pitt would beat West Virginia in a close game. 7 points most likely. They have a good defense like Pitt but their offense is crap. Their coach better go 8-4 next year or he is going to hear it big time from their delusional alumni

 

[Franb]

So what? It’s another game. They want to play. All non playoff bowl games are just exhibition games anyways.

And who are the only people involved in bowl games who do not make any money from the games? Why the players, of course. They get a few trinkets.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

And who are the only people involved in bowl games who do not make any money from the games? Why the players, of course. They get a few trinkets.

If the players don’t want to play, they can opt out. No harm, especially this year. Hanging out in Memphis and playing a college football game isn’t exactly a punishment. Sounds kind of fun actuelly. Hope the players realize this

 

[Pitt1975]

I’m happy there is more football. No complaints here.
Isn’t WVU’s coach on someone’s short list? For a vacancy?

 

[pierre93]

I’m happy there is more football. No complaints here.
Isn’t WVU’s coach on someone’s short list? For a vacancy?

Awww isn't that lovely lmao

 

[Pitt79]

I’m happy there is more football. No complaints here.
Isn’t WVU’s coach on someone’s short list? For a vacancy?

I might watch some bowl games, but I refuse to watch the playoffs, I don't want to see Clemson vs Bama for the 10000000000000th time.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

I might watch some bowl games, but I refuse to watch the playoffs, I don't want to see Clemson vs Bama for the 10000000000000th time.

Can’t disagree. Honestly, how do u change it though?

 

[RaleighPittFan]

And who are the only people involved in bowl games who do not make any money from the games? Why the players, of course. They get a few trinkets.

Which is why the NFL should be forced to allow kids to sign out of HS, like MLB does.

Most would need to be in a d-league to start, at the NFL’s expense, of course.

It’s a farce that they have to wait three years removed from HS before the NFL will hire them.

 

[Pitt79]

Can’t disagree. Honestly, how do u change it though?

It would be pretty easy, have a 16 or 24 team playoff, where every conference champ has an automatic BID, not the 16-24 "best teams" judged by committee optometrists administering "eye tests" but just WHOEVER WINS the conference is in, no checking the "resumes", like when Pitt played in that ACC title game vs Clemson, if they'd have pulled the upset, IN THE PLAYOFF GUARANTEED, with their 8-6 record and all! Then, I'd think it was a real sport, as of now, it's BS 95% of the teams aren't ever allowed in no matter what they do, and there are 10 conference, so you'd still have slots for wild cards, so we wouldn't have to cry or get emotional if UCF got in and the 3rd place SEC team was "unfairly" excluded, LOL

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

It would be pretty easy, have a 16 or 24 team playoff, where every conference champ has an automatic BID, not the 16-24 "best teams" judged by committee optometrists administering "eye tests" but just WHOEVER WINS the conference is in, no checking the "resumes", like when Pitt played in that ACC title game vs Clemson, if they'd have pulled the upset, IN THE PLAYOFF GUARANTEED, with their 8-6 record and all! Then, I'd think it was a real sport, as of now, it's BS 95% of the teams aren't ever allowed in no matter what they do, and there are 10 conference, so you'd still have slots for wild cards, so we wouldn't have to cry or get emotional if UCF got in and the 3rd place SEC team was "unfairly" excluded, LOL

Adding 4 or 12 teams just adds another round it two of mismatches.

 

[TD_6082]

2 bowls had to cancel due to all the opt outs.

Guaranteed Rate Bowl, Birmingham Bowl canceled due to COVID-19 - UPI.com

 

[HailToPitt725]

It would be pretty easy, have a 16 or 24 team playoff, where every conference champ has an automatic BID, not the 16-24 "best teams" judged by committee optometrists administering "eye tests" but just WHOEVER WINS the conference is in, no checking the "resumes", like when Pitt played in that ACC title game vs Clemson, if they'd have pulled the upset, IN THE PLAYOFF GUARANTEED, with their 8-6 record and all! Then, I'd think it was a real sport, as of now, it's BS 95% of the teams aren't ever allowed in no matter what they do, and there are 10 conference, so you'd still have slots for wild cards, so we wouldn't have to cry or get emotional if UCF got in and the 3rd place SEC team was "unfairly" excluded, LOL

I am a proponent of the eight team playoff idea (P5 champs, G5 rep, two at-larges) but I could get behind a 24-team system, too. FCS has it and it’s worked out for them.

You’d likely have to go 24 instead of 16 to include more at-larges and satisfy some of the P5 schools that would think it’s unfair that the MAC champ gets in over one of their own. Another underrated benefit of it is that perhaps with every conference guaranteed a spot, we could stop with this ridiculous realignment and revert back to regional conferences. I know, makes too much sense...

Regardless of how many teams it should be expanded by, I also think they should revert back to the BCS computer rankings instead of an arbitrary committee. We thought the human element would help things; I don’t think it’s worked out too well. Just my opinion.

 

[wbrpanther]

Which is why the NFL should be forced to allow kids to sign out of HS, like MLB does.

Most would need to be in a d-league to start, at the NFL’s expense, of course.

It’s a farce that they have to wait three years removed from HS before the NFL will hire them.

It's physically a different game.

 

[RaleighPittFan]

It's physically a different game.

I guess you missed the d-league at the NFL’s expense, part.

 

[Pitt79]

Adding 4 or 12 teams just adds another round it two of mismatches.

Who cares, there are almost always blowouts in the 4 team playoffs.

Oregon 59 Florida State 20
Alabama 38 Michigan State 0
Alabama 24 Washington 7
Clemson 31 tOSU 0
Alabama 24 Clemson 6
Clemson 30 ND 3
LSU 63 Oklahoma 28
tOSU 42 Oregon 20
Clemson 44 Alabama 16
LSU 42 Clemson 25

So having potential blowouts is not an issue, it already happens very often, to me the more important issue is having more teams get the chance to be blown out. Have the conference title mean a lot, like in College basketball, then maybe someday there will be a football version of UMBC over Virginia.

 

[pierre93]

I am a proponent of the eight team playoff idea (P5 champs, G5 rep, two at-larges) but I could get behind a 24-team system, too. FCS has it and it’s worked out for them.

You’d likely have to go 24 instead of 16 to include more at-larges and satisfy some of the P5 schools that would think it’s unfair that the MAC champ gets in over one of their own. Another underrated benefit of it is that perhaps with every conference guaranteed a spot, we could stop with this ridiculous realignment and revert back to regional conferences. I know, makes too much sense...

Regardless of how many teams it should be expanded by, I also think they should revert back to the BCS computer rankings instead of an arbitrary committee. We thought the human element would help things; I don’t think it’s worked out too well. Just my opinion.

To make these "meaningless" bowl games relevant incorporate the 24 teams into that playoff system. By that the bowl sponsors and NCAA are happy and the teams do have something to play for.

 

[Pitt79]

I am a proponent of the eight team playoff idea (P5 champs, G5 rep, two at-larges) but I could get behind a 24-team system, too. FCS has it and it’s worked out for them.

You’d likely have to go 24 instead of 16 to include more at-larges and satisfy some of the P5 schools that would think it’s unfair that the MAC champ gets in over one of their own. Another underrated benefit of it is that perhaps with every conference guaranteed a spot, we could stop with this ridiculous realignment and revert back to regional conferences. I know, makes too much sense...

Regardless of how many teams it should be expanded by, I also think they should revert back to the BCS computer rankings instead of an arbitrary committee. We thought the human element would help things; I don’t think it’s worked out too well. Just my opinion.

I have to laugh at the idea of it might be unfair if the 4th place SEC team is left out LOL

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

Who cares, there are almost always blowouts in the 4 team playoffs.

Oregon 59 Florida State 20
Alabama 38 Michigan State 0
Alabama 24 Washington 7
Clemson 31 tOSU 0
Alabama 24 Clemson 6
Clemson 30 ND 3
LSU 63 Oklahoma 28
tOSU 42 Oregon 20
Clemson 44 Alabama 16
LSU 42 Clemson 25

So having potential blowouts is not an issue, it already happens very often, to me the more important issue is having more teams get the chance to be blown out. Have the conference title mean a lot, like in College basketball, then maybe someday there will be a football version of UMBC over Virginia.

Yes, true and I agree, not really the end of the world. I am in favor of 8 teams for sure. Don’t see a downside.

I think 16 team playoff is over kill but o wouldn’t cry if it happened.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

I might watch some bowl games, but I refuse to watch the playoffs, I don't want to see Clemson vs Bama for the 10000000000000th time.

I said all along this was the year to throw a bone to the G6 schools and invite Cinci. It has been a crap year anyways, do it now and end the debate. How do you justify ND which got blown out by 30 points its last game?

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

Which is why the NFL should be forced to allow kids to sign out of HS, like MLB does.

Most would need to be in a d-league to start, at the NFL’s expense, of course.

It’s a farce that they have to wait three years removed from HS before the NFL will hire them.

it is all about the $$$$. The NFL has a free minor league system now.

 

[Pitt79]

To make these "meaningless" bowl games relevant incorporate the 24 teams into that playoff system. By that the bowl sponsors and NCAA are happy and the teams do have something to play for.

That's the point, with automatic bids, and 24 spots, then realistically, every team has at least a path, WIN THIS CERTAIN GAME and your in. Sadly the conferences might end championship games to make sure Clemson and Bama go every time! LOL it's a STUPID sport

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

That's the point, with automatic bids, and 24 spots, then realistically, every team has at least a path, WIN THIS CERTAIN GAME and your in. Sadly the conferences might end championship games to make sure Clemson and Bama go every time! LOL it's a STUPID sport

5 auto bids to P5 winners and 3 at-large bids is a no-brainer..

 

[Pitt79]

To make these "meaningless" bowl games relevant incorporate the 24 teams into that playoff system. By that the bowl sponsors and NCAA are happy and the teams do have something to play for.

And you can still have other minor bowls for teams that don't get in the 24, it's just TV entertainment anyways.

 

[pittdan77]

You could have a 64 team playoff and end up with the exact same result. You could have more or less made that argument in July. Clemson and Bama are the two best teams and nobody is in a hurry to "fix" it. If you think ND and Ohio State don't "deserve" to be in the final four, who else is going to play Clemson or Bama closer? A&M is the only other school with a legit argument and they already lost to Bama by 4 TD's. Be happy the ACC plus one gets two schools and watch or don't watch but the fantastical stuff about these other "deserving" schools is silly.

 

[Pitt79]

5 auto bids to P5 winners and 3 at-large bids is a no-brainer..

If you have to go 8, I'd make it ,,,

5 auto bids to P5 winners and 2 at-large bids, top ranked G5 team.

I don't care at all if the G5 are among the subjective "best teams", if they are NEVER allowed any path to the playoff, why are they even in D1, break the P5 away from the G5

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

5 auto bids to P5 winners and 3 at-large bids is a no-brainer..

you assume that the people running college football have a brain. I submit the 2020 season as evidence to the contrary with the totally uncoordinated response.

 

[Pitt79]

You could have a 64 team playoff and end up with the exact same result. You could have more or less made that argument in July. Clemson and Bama are the two best teams and nobody is in a hurry to "fix" it. If you think ND and Ohio State don't "deserve" to be in the final four, who else is going to play Clemson or Bama closer? A&M is the only other school with a legit argument and they already lost to Bama by 4 TD's. Be happy the ACC plus one gets two schools and watch or don't watch but the fantastical stuff about these other "deserving" schools is silly.

I don't care if it's still going to be Clemson and Bama every year forever, why not make it harder for them, and give the other 130 fanbases something to be excited about. Just putting them straight in the final 4 EVERY FRIGGING YEAR, just perpetuates their superiority, if OTHER TEAMS could get in, and maybe pull an upset somewhere on National TV, maybe that helps their recruiting, maybe then eventually it's no ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS the same few teams.

 

[PA_Panther]

Everyone keeps over thinking the entire playoff system. 24 teams with the top eight seeds getting a bye. You avoid first round beat downs and get some decent matchups. So here ya go:

Tulsa vs. Georgia
Iowa State vs NC STATE
SAN Jose State vs. Indiana
Coastal Carolina vs. Oklahoma State
UNC vs Texas
Louisiana vs Northwestern
Iowa vs MIAMI
BYU vs USC

BAM eight meaningful bowls games, five more than we have now and we haven’t gotten into the second round yet. Money for everyone! It’s the Monday before Christmas and I’ve already created a better system. Assign each of these games to a bowl and profit. They will certainly agree to it because it will sell out in a matter of minutes.

 

[pittdan77]

I don't care if it's still going to be Clemson and Bama every year forever, why not make it harder for them, and give the other 130 fanbases something to be excited about. Just putting them straight in the final 4 EVERY FRIGGING YEAR, just perpetuates their superiority, if OTHER TEAMS could get in, and maybe pull an upset somewhere on National TV, maybe that helps their recruiting, maybe then eventually it's no ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS the same few teams.

How are you going to make it harder? Only allow them 10 players? The CFP doesn't make Bama better. The amount of money that Bama is spending compared to other schools makes Bama better.

Get this straight. Nobody involved with P5 football is interested in changing things. The CFP is a cash cow that was created for TV (by TV) and there hasn't been any evidence that adding more rounds changes the outcome. Everyone involved in the P5 is enjoying the spoils coming from the the huge TV deals and are in no hurry to fix it. For the fans, yeah, it sucks but 25 million people will watch the game and the TV folks will fork over hundreds of millions of dollars to do it.

 

[Panther Holla]

And wvcc avoided playing Oklahoma or they'd be 5-5. Atrocious and pathetic but if the roles were reversed Pitt would be getting slammed in the Pittsburgh media. Go Volunteers!!!

Isn't it typical in the local ragpapers? Pitt takes indirect jabs for ending up 6-5 -- the reminder of What Might Have Been was tacked onto practically every article....Yeah, the Panthers blew a golden chance at 8-3, but is that really breaking news with this program after 40 years? The real story was somehow managing to complete 11 games despite COVID, the Pickett injury and the defections..... Meanwhile the Pedds go 4-5 and their season is called a success because they, well, um, finished it.

 

[pierre93]

Isn't it typical in the local ragpapers? Pitt takes indirect jabs for ending up 6-5 -- the reminder of What Might Have Been was tacked onto practically every article....Yeah, the Panthers blew a golden chance at 8-3, but is that really breaking news with this program after 40 years? The real story was somehow managing to complete 11 games despite COVID, the Pickett injury and the defections..... Meanwhile the Pedds go 4-5 and their season is called a success because they, well, um, finished it.

Troll....next

 

[Pitt79]

How are you going to make it harder? Only allow them 10 players? The CFP doesn't make Bama better. The amount of money that Bama is spending compared to other schools makes Bama better.

Get this straight. Nobody involved with P5 football is interested in changing things. The CFP is a cash cow that was created for TV (by TV) and there hasn't been any evidence that adding more rounds changes the outcome. Everyone involved in the P5 is enjoying the spoils coming from the the huge TV deals and are in no hurry to fix it. For the fans, yeah, it sucks but 25 million people will watch the game and the TV folks will fork over hundreds of millions of dollars to do it.

They have to win more games, hopefully through attrition, they have injuries and the odds of them getting knocked off increases.

They sure as hell do benefit from ALWAYS being in the playoffs, all the 4 stars and 5 stars want to go there, it's free advertising.

Of course there's no "evidence" that adding more rounds changes the outcome, you'd have to add more rounds to change the outcome first

There is evidence that G5 teams can beat bigtime P5 teams though, Boise State over Oklahoma, UCF over Auburn.

IMO what they do now is not interesting, it's THE SAME THING over and over and over, repetitive...

We can only hope that people wise up and stop watching and the ratings decrease.

 

[Pitt grad and dad]

Yes, true and I agree, not really the end of the world. I am in favor of 8 teams for sure. Don’t see a downside.

I think 16 team playoff is over kill but o wouldn’t cry if it happened.

I suspect that Alabama, Clemson, and maybe Ohio State would lobby against an eight team playoff as it would mean an extra game they have to play, and increase the possibility of an upset. Besides, why do they want others to join their exclusive club, and ruin a good thing. As some have said in the past, ESPN is driving this bus.

 

[pitt90seven]

The South Carolina players will be using their bowl game to audition for their new coach in an attempt to keep their scholarships for next year. As far as Tennessee is concerned, they shouldnt be allowed anywhere near Memphis. You would think the chancellor would have stepped in and said enough is enough but the SEC is it’s own unique sports institution. They have their own rules and mission

i don't agree with this. i think the SC players are auditioning for the portal in case they don't like the new coach.

 

[pittdan77]

They have to win more games, hopefully through attrition, they have injuries and the odds of them getting knocked off increases.

They sure as hell do benefit from ALWAYS being in the playoffs, all the 4 stars and 5 stars want to go there, it's free advertising.

Of course there's no "evidence" that adding more rounds changes the outcome, you'd have to add more rounds to change the outcome first

There is evidence that G5 teams can beat bigtime P5 teams though, Boise State over Oklahoma, UCF over Auburn.

IMO what they do now is not interesting, it's THE SAME THING over and over and over, repetitive...

We can only hope that people wise up and stop watching and the ratings decrease.

One at a time....

Having to win more games likely has no change. Injuries? Remember the time Clemson lost their star QB and ended up with a third string freshman that is about to become the top player in the 2021 draft?

The one year Bama missed the playoff, they finished 2nd in recruiting. Oklahoma made the playoff three years in a row and proceeded to finish outside of the top 10. It ain't the CFP.

Yes, G5 teams can beat the occasional P5 in a one-off game. Usually early season or in a meaningless bowl game. So what? If you don't think a P5 team isn't going to bring it a little differently in January, you're mistaken.

It's okay that you don't like it. You don't have to. The people writing the checks aren't caving to your whims and the people cashing them don't care.

 

[Pitt79]

I suspect that Alabama, Clemson, and maybe Ohio State would lobby against an eight team playoff as it would mean an extra game they have to play, and increase the possibility of an upset. Besides, why do they want others to join their exclusive club, and ruin a good thing. As some have said in the past, ESPN is driving this bus.

Then just break away and have a 3 team league. Or maybe a 10-12 team league of the APPROVED FOR TV teams? I'd rather watch a 16 team playoff selected from the other 120 teams anyways.