Especially since it costs two first rounder and DJ Moore
Tepper should have kept his money in Pittsburgh
Rudy is a classy dude
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Tepper should have kept his money in Pittsburgh
This whole “the organization treated him like crap” narrative needs to come to an end. If that were the case they could have let him languish in free agency last year. Prior to that he underperformed so much that he lost his starting job to a guy named “Duck.” They also kept him around over Josh Dobbs and it’s very obvious that Trubisky will be the one walking at the end of this year.
On top of all of that, we’re only 2 years removed from Roethlisberger. The difference with Ben and any other quarterback on the roster since Leftwich and Batch is that none of the offensive staff took the time or knew how to develop any of them. Batch and Leftwich and obviously BR had enough experience to figure it out themselves.
None of the coaches treated Rudolph any differently than any other backup. That’s a silly sentiment to express. And when Pouncey went balls to the wall during the Myles Garrett situation I think we all saw what his teammates thought of him.
On top of all of that, we’re only 2 years removed from Roethlisberger. The difference with Ben and any other quarterback on the roster since Leftwich and Batch is that none of the offensive staff took the time or knew how to develop any of them. Batch and Leftwich and obviously BR had enough experience to figure it out themselves.
None of the coaches treated Rudolph any differently than any other backup. That’s a silly sentiment to express. And when Pouncey went balls to the wall during the Myles Garrett situation I think we all saw what his teammates thought of him.
This level of thinking is exactly why yinzer nation doesn’t deserve to win another Super Bowl. Common sense says if a guy starts playing like he is Joe Montana then it shouldn’t matter. What the politics are. You keep them on your team as a starter until he does not play like Joe Montana anymore. Like San Francisco when they figured out their Mr. irrelevant player was better than their top 10 draft pick? They didn’t care that they wasted a pic. They were only happy that they found a quarterback that could execute their system. Your level of thinking is what makes you as bad as Mike Tomlin. This guy just put up numbers that rival guys who have started all year over the last three games. Forget, looking for franchise quarterback. Find a quarterback that can execute and when you games and possibly get you to the playoffs to win a Super Bowl. You figure the rest out as you go along and then eventually you might find a guy who can be your starter for 15 years. But for now Mason is a guy that can win you some games and possibly even take you to another Super Bowl. But if you don’t want that and you just wanna keep trotting out the first rounder, you deserve what you get.
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I fear that the Steelers will go nowhere with either Kenny or Rudolph, based on what we've seen so far. They wasted a high pick on Kenny, unless somehow the lights go on with him, and they are going to have to make a tough decision with Rudolph, because some team will definitely sign him as a backup now, for more money than he's worth.
I'm guessing that they let Rudolph walk and hope for the best with KP.
I'm guessing that they let Rudolph walk and hope for the best with KP.
Pickett NEVER had the running game that Rudolph enjoyed the last few games. All of a sudden, the OL of the Steelers got good I don't think Harris had great running games earlier this year. A good running game makes the passing game easier.
He should have had another touchdown pass. Threw a perfect 30 yard pass that Johnson slowed down on.
There is something broken in Rudolph whereby he can't process the routes and feel/avoid pressure at the same time. Combine that with a weak arm and what do you get? An NFL backup. Okay, yeah - you play him next week if you make it. But I wouldn't even give him top-half backup money to come back next season.
The fact that people think Yarnell and Rudolph are as good as they do tells me they're just conditioned to seeing some pretty bad QB play in this city over the last few years.
The fact that people think Yarnell and Rudolph are as good as they do tells me they're just conditioned to seeing some pretty bad QB play in this city over the last few years.
You're comparing Rudolph to Montana? Just stop.
Everyone is saying you play the hot hand. Everyone.
What happens next year is a completely different scenario. Even if the Steelers wanted to start him, Rudolph isn't going to be paid what he'll think he should get from the Steelers to start. It's just not going to happen, and it shouldn't happen.
He's not good enough to command 3x the salary of Pickett on a multi year deal. He will, and should, go get as much as he can on the open market.
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The entire KP story is just so complex. The guy was, if we are being honest, quite average until his final year, at which time he makes an extremely large leap to success that is almost unfathomable. Then, somehow, he becomes an NFL first round pick. Now, he's back to being average (at best) again, albeit in a higher league. Which KP is the real KP? How will we ever know? The story is fascinating, but I wish the Steelers were not a part of it.
Jordan Addison is really good; we scored almost 170 points against UMass, New Hampshire, and Western Michigan; it was a down year for the ACC; we threw a hell of a lot, even when it didn't make sense.
Pickett isn't chopped liver, but I think he's probably more like a midround backup type, and the concerns about having one outlier season like that are seemingly being more validated by the day.
I want to see Pickett under a new OC and offensive system.
It isn't fair to judge him in a system that had to be jettisoned at mid season.
Remember, Rudolph's success is coming in the revamped system, and as pointed out above, he's benefiting greatly from a rejuvenated running game.
KP had bad luck and got hurt at a horrible point in the season. Had he not, no doubt the Steelers are already solidly in the playoffs. Perhaps if they had played Rudolph sooner, they would be too.
It is nice when your starter goes down that a backup is there to pick up the slack, and MR has more than done that. He deserves to ride this wave to the end.
Next season, who knows if he's even on the roster?? Mitch has to go, KP will most certainly be here, so the Steelers will be in the market for another QB, or two.
Then see who performs best under the new OC and the new roster and offense. THAT is when you make the decision on the future.
It isn't fair to judge him in a system that had to be jettisoned at mid season.
Remember, Rudolph's success is coming in the revamped system, and as pointed out above, he's benefiting greatly from a rejuvenated running game.
KP had bad luck and got hurt at a horrible point in the season. Had he not, no doubt the Steelers are already solidly in the playoffs. Perhaps if they had played Rudolph sooner, they would be too.
It is nice when your starter goes down that a backup is there to pick up the slack, and MR has more than done that. He deserves to ride this wave to the end.
Next season, who knows if he's even on the roster?? Mitch has to go, KP will most certainly be here, so the Steelers will be in the market for another QB, or two.
Then see who performs best under the new OC and the new roster and offense. THAT is when you make the decision on the future.
Yes he said the right thing. That tends to happen after you have a crappy first few years of your career, get accused of saying something racist on the field, nearly get your brains beat in with a helmet, and get knocked unconscious on the field. Those things tend to give perspective. Also pronouncing his faith(I'm a believer too so chill) in Western PA will endear people to you....I remember Ben came to the Lord after his second uhmmmm (accusation) and it helped clean up his image. Point here is everytime he says something that he's supposed to say the whole city acts he is this amazing human being when in reality he has been contemplating the death of his NFL career this entire year and that will make you reflective and grant a great deal of insight. Nothing more. Please stop lining up to give this man a slow clap every time he takes the podium.... it's weird. There are tons of guys just like him on this team. Did you know Mike Tomlin and Highsmith came to talk to a group of men and boys about their faith and their experience with fatherlessness before the season started, or all the guys who donated time and money without cameras around? Nobody dabbing their eyes over them. You guys have Rudolph fever I get it, but you're like new parents who think everything your baby does is cute. Your like "awwwe Rudy took a dump, how precious."
Come on man, Tomlin is like public enemy #1 for 50% of this board, don't go there.
Amazing how both Tomlin and Narduzzi buried their best QBs at 3rd on the depth chart until given no other choice.
And please, spare us the tales of how Big Ben came to religion. That guy hasn't made a single genuine statement in his entire life.
I mean....I'm in no position to measure a man's faith, but that's what he said.
Or did they play two teams with horrible run defenses and a ravens team that was playing the JV
No question they took advantage of those situations, but they had two previous similar opportunities and Trushitsky FAILED.
At least MR got the job done.
Could KP have done the same or better? We'll never know. Intuition says had he not gotten hurt, the Steelers are comfortably in the playoffs as we speak.
KP played well against the bengals as well and was moving the team before he got hurt in the cardinals game For sure they should have pulled MT after the cardinals fiasco
That is a very bold and judgmental statement. Maybe the same can be said for you on quite a few topics.
Agree. You take Young over Stroud and give up multiple picks and a top 25 wide receiver
Someone can play “ like “ someone for a few games can they not?? We can compare stats right?? If this is how you and Yinzer Nation evaluate QB play then you deserve another era of 80’s and 90’s football without the playoff success of the Cowher era. Someone said Rudolph had a weak arm and Pickett has a greater skill set??? It’s just further proof that most of you guys don’t know what you’re watching. And I’m gonna laugh as you guys continue to play Kenny Pickett, and he continue to be the worst quarterback in the NFL history.
Worst in NFL history is a bit of a reach as he is at worst the 2nd best QB on the roster.
Except we do know. Pickett had his best game of the year in the first Cincinnati game and was moving the ball against the Cardinals before he was hurt. I only got to see one game Rudolph started, which was yesterday. I wasn't overly impressed with how he played, but they won, which is the bottom line. Rudolph was clearly better than Trubisky, so being #3 is certainly a head scratcher, but I honestly didn't see a significant difference between him and Pickett.
The only thing "like" between Montana and Rudolph is they play the same position. That's it.
Anything over 25 yards is a moonball lob pass. He is what he is.
He is statistically the worst, starting quarterback in the history of the league. Literally. I didn’t make that up. Well, the guy that you claim is a back up just put together three consecutive QBR‘s of over 112 which the last player do that was Ben Roethlisberger. But you want relegate Mason being Kenny’s back up when Mason has better film with less reps with the first team Kenny has ever had. Explain that? explain how a supposed third string quarterback, who did not practice with the first team in off season training or a mini camp or in training camp can somehow build a chemistry with guys with literally one week of practice and keep getting better from week to week while, your boy Kenny Pickett Has yet to produce anything statistically close to Mason Rudolph. How many multi touchdown passing games does Mason have compared to Kenny? explain it please
Damn man lighten up a little. I’ve seen enough to convince me Pickett isn’t the guy, but no way he’s worse than Jamarcus Russell, Heath Shuler, Ryan Leaf, or Akili Smith and many others.
Kenny wasn't ever expected to be as good as any of those guys, but it really is crazy how high he was drafted. Had he went the year before, he'd have been a 5-6th rounder.
If that’s the case, KP must have his dad and dozens of stepdads posting on this board.
Only one Quarterback since the AFL and NFL merger has thrown for a touchdown at a rate of less than 2%. Guess who it is??? Kenny Pickett.
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Maybe, but it is a Pitt football message board.
I agree, I figure that’s what explains the far from objective critique of the 2 QBs.
