The only thing that talks is $$$$$$$. That other crap is utter nonsense. Do you honestly believe a huge ego coach seeking a job is worried about how they will be compared to Jamie Dixon? Lousy Colorado football just picked up the hottest coach in football by paying big bucks. Money talks. Nothing else matters.
I don’t think that’s entirely true
A coach to prove himself and money to pay can be congruent.
Especially now that multiple coaches have now come in after the legend, and repositioned Pitt as a low grade program. Nobody but our fans now remember Pitt as a power any longer. There are new (more difficult) pressures to rejuvenate a loser, but no longer any concern about “Living up To Jamie”. That’s dead and gone.
I mean, besides having a better record, a tougher schedule, beating better teams and being way better in the KenPom they aren’t…
I’m not in the fire Capel camp because if he’s fired that will have meant this ended up being another rough losing season.
There’s more evidence to point to that he will be less successful in retaining and acquiring new talent thru the portal than a splashy new hire that will have some new coach bump, imo.
We would have beat Vandy if we could defend. 9 seconds left and we couldn't stay in front of our man long enough to force a contested jump shot. Instead we get beat off the dribble, Fede came to help, and we leave a weak side dump off for a layup, which of course we didn't give up due to a foul. We have to dig deeper there. You can't get beat for a layup with 9 seconds left. These guys have to want it more, and be resolute to play shut down D. We will be in that situation again, so here is to hoping the staff and players have discussed that 9 seconds of basketball and learned from it.
I’m not questioning that nor am I saying I am confident we are going to have a successful enough season to retain him. At this point I just want the fairly successful (NIT) season. If that doesn’t happen, that’s a different story.
Yeah we may beat them or may not beat them but it’s hard to say they’re not a better squad than us currently and have a brighter future, unfortunately.
I don't disagree and not what I was arguing.
The head coach makes about a million more and the assistant pool is about 300k higher than PSU’s budget, for example. We can land a quality Head Coach who will be able to land quality assistants and not his retired friends and brother.
I will say this much - I think it WILL get him retained.
But we will be losing almost all of the contributors. I have a feeling Hugley will be in portal regardless this off-season (which isn’t a loss at this point). If Dior comes in and kills it and they make NIT and you have a core of Dior/Hinson/Fede going into next year it’s a different story.
Gotcha. Can’t say I agree with that decision but my job ain’t on the line with him. Unfortunately, I feel like that will make it that much harder when we eventually do part ways with him as most of the hot candidates I know would take it will probably be snatched up by then. Oh well
Remember- we actually have to MAKE the NIT.
Disagree strongly--If a coach sees this as a career-ender with no future money--he doesn't take the job. In fact, coaches told Pitt thanks but no thanks after Stallings was canned and it wasn't due to more money elsewhere. It was because they believed it would be easier to be successful elsewhere for the same or similar money.
That there is no longer any concern about “Living up To Jamie” is certainly true now. However, it wasn't at the time of the Stallings hiring and firing. Instead, it is now a perception that the Pitt job is a dead end job--very sadly similar to Boston College's situation.
Agree 100%. The last thing I want to see is Pitt becoming a coaches graveyard. Hope Capel can really show people this year that he can get it done.
What makes it easier to be successful elsewhere? Pitt has good facilities and was very successful for about 15 years prior to Stallings.
Yes , and most likely that coach will be sought after by other programs that would offer a better chance of success .
The overall fan base really has no clue. We have a few hundred who know what they are talking about with respect to the college basketball landscape and the rest live in a vacuum.
You asked a question so I answered it
Then explain why he still is employed ?
Well by your logic Pitt should be able to do better, but, we f-d up the last two hires. What makes you so sure there is somebody ready to take this job and pull an immediate turnaround like Shrewsbury has done at Ped. St?? I am for canning Capel if and only if this team comes apart again. Contrary to many's beliefs, we did not have coaches knocking down our door, when Stallings was given his pink slip. It amazes me that because we had a solid decade of success under Howland/Dixon that so many think we are entitled to more of that success.
Let’s see Pitt forced out its best coach in the modern history of the program , then hired a guy who blocked a transfer from attending Pitt , who was about to be fired . Next they identified the man they wanted and all he did was use them as leverage for the job he wanted . Accepting less money to boot . Then they hired JC giving him a contract they can’t afford to eat . Do I have any confidence in them making a good decision now , only a fool would .
