how dare you. it's never kenny's fault. come on, you know the rules on here.
Say what you want about Duzz but he at least recognized the problem and made a change
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I don't get that whole thing? who cares, they hardly ever show her during the games?
modern football offenses is like porn. i cant define it but when i see it, i know it..
It would be nice if he played better so there would be no need to make excuses for him.
Since there is currently no reasonable alternative to him, they have to devise an offensive system that he can thrive in.
He obviously needs to be a "system" QB. Operate in his comfort zone, and limit mistakes and do what is asked from him.
The hope is the new OC will recognize this, an tailor the offense to accomplish this.
The same could be said for Rudolph, or any other similarly situated QB.
A QB with the arm, savvy and skillset to be a true franchise QB like Mahomes, Allen, Stroud, or similar is outside of the Steelers reach and essentially not available.
Have to make the best of what you have.
Maybe a losing season would be good, to be able to roll the dice on a top 10 draft pick QB and hopefully luck into another Ben, or not, if that's a bust try again.
well modern offenses are what ever the latest trends are..
RPO's of course which we all know and love, Criss crossing pre-snap motions is the newest craze and of course Romo talking about it every week is kind of annoying..
more specialized backs with little "one back" system.. bigger pass per attempts across the board and of course more passing vs running..
That's all i got. i'd say more shotguns but that's kind of been the case for 20 years..
I hear this as a knock on Tomlin all the time, but how do you do that??
Intentionally lose games?? Isn't that what they asked the Miami coach to do that ended up in a lawsuit?
How do you tank on purpose??
Tomlin's curse is also his strength. He seems to get a lot out of even a weak hand. Hence the "Never had a losing season" mantra, like that's a bad thing???
pittdan77
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pittdan77
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good post freeport. agree, he makes bad teams above average. that is a good thing. it screws us over come draft day but again, making bad rosters decent teams is a positive trait..
it's just that he seems to make really good rosters average or slightly above average teams too. taking a 5-11 roster and going 9-8 is good. taking a 12-5 roster and going 9-8, not soo good..
Depends? Significant enough to get into the playoffs a lot of years.
Something a lot of other franchises, the ones that change coaches like changing underwear, would love to do!
pittdan77
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pittdan77
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I agree with this to a certain extent.
However, you have to dive deeper into some of those underachieving years to see what happened.
One thing for sure, Tomlin didn't benefit so much from Roethlesberger because the super bowl Ben didn't hold up as well.
Also, it seemed like when the Steelers were poised to make a run, they would get the inevitable injury to a key player or two?
Also when Heath Miller retired, he was Ben's go to guy and they had a lot of trouble replacing him.
Same with the defense when Shazier had to quit. They could never find an adequate replacement.
Then the soap opera, which Tomlin could be blamed for, or lauded for keeping the circus moving forward, with Bell, Brown and JuJu.
Say what you will about the guy, but he manages to keep winning in spite of a lot of things that make another coach fold like a cheap kite.
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I'll be honest, they could run the wing-t and I'd be fine with it if the Steelers managed to win a playoff game.
It's always a pecking order though.
There are teams that did win playoff games that are no better off than the Steelers are now.
Unless you can make a run and win several playoff games, in the same season, you're really no better off, and perhaps less because you get worse draft picks.
hanging you hat on wining a single title in the weakest of the power 5 conferences against the traditional powerhouse that is the fighting Brian Piccolos in a three loss season not exactly the greatest comparison model to go with...
But to Pitt that was epic, like winning a Super Bowl, nothing that great has been done by Pitt in almost 50 years.
I was just giving an example. I used them because I watched them recently. I do not watch a lot of NFL football like I used to. I find it to be pretty boring in this day and age.
I did find a stat a few weeks ago that might blow some people's minds when it comes to X's and O's and modernity. When everyone says we now live in a passing era where the premise for volume is an absolute must, I read that in today's game we average 33.7 attempts per game. You would think this would be drastically different 30 years ago. However, the league average in 1993 was 32.2 attempts!!!! In 1995 the average was 34.8 attempts per game.
A long time coach friend of mine said the biggest difference in offensive football, is that coaches today have found "easier" ways to score points but the actual QB/WR play hasn't really improved. He blames rules, scheme advances, lack of practice time, and a general lack of fundamentals. Tom Brady recently said the current QB play we've seen is not very good.
So many plays are designed to get PI called.
And then you have the pic plays that are either legal or illegal depending on which way the wind blows, or how clever the WR can be to disguise it.
So there are ways to design plays to make it easier to get open, throw and score? IMO this is where the Steelers Way is lacking, they don't seem to put a lot of thought into pass routes and schemes.
Could be they've figured out how to defend those patterns, or the current players aren't talented, or the obvious one, no QB with any talent to get the ball there.
Yes things definitely change. People are always figuring out new things, then others figure out how to counter that.......and so it goes!!
That's a problem for an autistic organization obsessed with extreme stability at all costs and never changing anything.
The Steelers with Ward used a ton of compressed formations and motions to pry those recievers open. I don't see it as much anymore.
I think it would fit kenny well because he can't drive the outside the hashes like Ben used to.
That's where you miss the genius of it.
IF everyone is designing defenses to stop the new thing, then the old thing will work perfectly against it!
I hope your joking? Because they already know how to stop the old thing and just implement it that week.
The defense last year stunk
Listen - I like Flores - the coach is said it -
But let’s be honest
The Vikings stunk the year before and improved to below average last year
