In all seriousness, the Ticket for Kids thing is the way to go if you can't get rid of the rest of the tickets.
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In all seriousness, the Ticket for Kids thing is the way to go if you can't get rid of the rest of the tickets.
Have to stop the Penn State fans in the stadium bullshit, NOW.
PSU will have their 10-15,000 fans in the stadium, like any PSU, ND or WVU game in this area. Here is why they won't have more, because they CAN'T.
There are 10,000 student tickets. They will be sold out.
There are 10,500 CLUB seats (9,000 +1,500 private box), which will be 85% Pitt fans.
This seating requires a donation, and only will go to PSU fans if a Pitt fan sells their ticket on Stubhub, etc.
1,700 Pitt fans were permitted the opportunity to buy additional single game seats.The average person bought 2.5 seats, for a total of 4,250 tickets. Again, only if RESOLD or Nitters buying Pitt Seasons--- will these be PSU fans. (The SELLING to the visitors has been vastly exaggerated as the return of a rival is not exactly a game people are selling. I know Pitt fans from Cal and Texas who are coming to this game, who never come back for games) . Let's say 85% use this tickets and do not sell to PSU fans. I
So that leaves us at 10,000+8,925+3612 for 22,537 committed Student, Club, and Single seats. The capacity is 68,400.
Leaving 46,043 for regular season ticket holders and flex plans, etc.
If ONLY 65% of that number are Pitt fans, and I think this is very conservative... that adds an additional 29,927, to the 22,537, and there you have it. 52,464... Leaving 16,000 seats for PSU fans, very casual fans, etc-----tops! (allotment of 5-7k plus others!)
There goes the "1/2 the stadium" argument.... Facts.
PSU will have their 10-15,000 fans in the stadium, like any PSU, ND or WVU game in this area. Here is why they won't have more, because they CAN'T.
There are 10,000 student tickets. They will be sold out.
There are 10,500 CLUB seats (9,000 +1,500 private box), which will be 85% Pitt fans.
This seating requires a donation, and only will go to PSU fans if a Pitt fan sells their ticket on Stubhub, etc.
1,700 Pitt fans were permitted the opportunity to buy additional single game seats.The average person bought 2.5 seats, for a total of 4,250 tickets. Again, only if RESOLD or Nitters buying Pitt Seasons--- will these be PSU fans. (The SELLING to the visitors has been vastly exaggerated as the return of a rival is not exactly a game people are selling. I know Pitt fans from Cal and Texas who are coming to this game, who never come back for games) . Let's say 85% use this tickets and do not sell to PSU fans. I
So that leaves us at 10,000+8,925+3612 for 22,537 committed Student, Club, and Single seats. The capacity is 68,400.
Leaving 46,043 for regular season ticket holders and flex plans, etc.
If ONLY 65% of that number are Pitt fans, and I think this is very conservative... that adds an additional 29,927, to the 22,537, and there you have it. 52,464... Leaving 16,000 seats for PSU fans, very casual fans, etc-----tops! (allotment of 5-7k plus others!)
There goes the "1/2 the stadium" argument.... Facts.
How is that number not higher?
I just checked for season tickets now and there is literally less than 25 seats available.
we had more than 54k season tickets sold in 1924?? I didn't know Forbes Field held that much. Obviously the city of Pittsburgh had that "itch" for Jock Sutherland. AKA, the Jock Itch.. Get it? Jock itch?
They will sell mini plans and general tickets to the public. The entire stadium is not reserved for season tickets.
Everyone makes fun of Pitt's attendance. However, for average teams we get around 45,000. For good teams we get around 55,000.
Which puts us in the middle of the p5 teams.
What hurts our perception is the fact we play in a stadium that fits 70000. If we played in a stadium that holds 50000. No one would say a damn thing about Pitt's attendance. Thats a fact
Which puts us in the middle of the p5 teams.
What hurts our perception is the fact we play in a stadium that fits 70000. If we played in a stadium that holds 50000. No one would say a damn thing about Pitt's attendance. Thats a fact
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The bad thing, is if PSU fans bought 20K season tickets just to get the PSU game, then we are pretty much guaranteed 20K unused seats every other game.
But you could still put them on StubHub for less than face value. If all the tickets are sold out or close to it, you could still recoup some money if you aren't planning to use any tix but PSU.
despise buying tickets from scalpers, absolutely sickens me to support this... Buying from people with "extras" is great but tough to rely on it..
We are not in the middle of P5 teams, we are in fact, near the bottom. We are in the middle of the FBS. We are in the bottom third of P5.
That is literally impossible unless 10K or more Penn State fans had season tickets last year AND they bought every single new season ticket sale (which I personally know is not the case). The bigger problem is Pitt fans not using them for other games.
According to the stated goals stated in prior interviews from Barnes, 53,775 stated goal - 9,770 stated new season ticket packages needed to reach goal if there was a 93% renewal rate = 44,005 season tickets renewals (and it was reported that Pitt renewed at a greater than 93% rate) on approximately 47,317 calculated season tickets sold in 2015. It has also been stated there were 45,000 season ticket holders last year (a generic round number thrown out that differs than the 47.3K calculation), so you can adjust accordingly, but it isn't that different.
Very few of those 44K season ticket renewals are nitters, and assuredly none are among the top 1,900 Pitt boosters that were offered additional PSU game tickets. What % of new season ticket sales (9,770) do you think are nitters and what percentage of the ~2K new mini-plan sales (if that included the PSU game which they cut off) are nitters? Remember, the pedonitters not employed at Burger King or delivering your morning newspaper are likely buying through their cult or buying better seats from brokers/stub hub.
PSU will have their 6K visitors allotment sold. They will buy from stub hub and other sources, and those are the ones you'll see in the lower bowl especially smattered behind the visitors sideline. A few..and I mean a few hundred... will have purchased season ticket plans and they'll probably all in the upper deck or end zone where donations aren't required and perhaps a few hundred to 1K or so bought some mini-packages. Judging by publicly available numbers, their lack of attendance at TRS in 2000 and at Beaver last year, they won't have more than 15K there and they'll be mostly behind the visitor's sideline from ticket brokers and in upper deck/endzone. Don't take trolls or posters on message boards as reflections of the norm. It will be like a typical ND game...maybe...and I say maybe because ND tickets are easier to get for non-Pitt boosters. The thing is that I know a few people that aren't able to go and they are outright refusing to sell their tickets on Stubhub or anywhere else pedonits can get their hands on them. They'd rather swallow the the tickets than have them misused by pedopropagandists. I also have heard of some people making the mistake of bringing PSU fans with them. So that probably negates each other as far as numbers. The unknown will be the standing room only tickets that they put on sale. As of right now, there are exactly 21 season ticket packages left to sell, none of them are together (all scattered singles except for a few in back to back rows in the upper corner). Season tickets are effectively sold out
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How many times has Pitt broken a ticket record over the past 15 or so years, only to not have much change with attendance?
The only time I am aware of was 2003, and that attendance was noticeably better for that season, for all the games, than any other.
Still, the more loses the more empty seats.
And that's not a Pitt-specific problem - people spend their money on winners. Hell, UCLA dropped 13% in attendance in 2015..went from a 10-3 team in 2014 to an 8-5 in 2015.
Ummmm.........i don't buy that!
If we average around 44,000 for a game. Which is a reasonable number basing it off season tickets sold.
There's noway we are at the bottom of p5 schools. Heck, Oregon only gets 45,000 a game. Same with Stanford, Baylor, TCU. Teams like Duke, Syracuse, GT, Miami don't get that many at their home games.
My point being. When we play home games. Except for games with Penn st, WVU, ND. Perhaps tarping off the upper level will help with the perception of Pitt's lack of fans.
Here is Oregon's Stadium. It holds 54,000 You never hear of them not getting fans to a stadium. Pitt and Miami could use a stadium of this size. In the mean time they should close upper endzones for most games and put a giant Pitt tarp up. Push the 45k all on top of the field.
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You never hear about it because no one averages above the 60s in the Pac except for USC (and only UW and UCLA average in the 60s). There aren't fan bases in the Pac that have nothing else to brag about than the size of their stadiums.
Pitt is fine. It just has to win more and with more consistently.
alright, I did the legwork and research before posting, but you can export and and filter for yourself.
http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...s-for-fifth-straight-year-but-at-slower-rate/
But the point is. They did not. That would mean that they matched us 1-1... That's just not possible.
Pitt was 46th in attendance out of 65 total Power 5 (+ ND) programs last year. We were 8th in the 14 team ACC.
We will average over 50K this year and have a shot at the top 40 (top 5 ACC) as long as we don't disappoint too much.
The reality of it is that the Pitt Athletic Department made it foolish to just purchase an individual penn state ticket or even the 3 game mini season ticket plan. An individual ticket for penn state was at least $110.00. A 3 game mini plan (including the penn state game) was essentially the same price as a full season ticket in the upper levels.
As for Pitt setting a record for number of season tickets being sold, that's awesome. What I'd like to see is how many people will be in those "sold" seats for the Villanova game and those home games after the penn state game.
I hope everyone comes to EVERY game they bought tickets for, sadly I doubt that attendance at this years home games will be any different then those of past years, penn state game excluded.
Pitt should offer a special deal for season ticket holders, something like...At the end of every home game, people scan their tickets for that game and if your seat is used at 5 of the 7 home games you receive a discount (say...15%) on your season tickets for next season.
As for Pitt setting a record for number of season tickets being sold, that's awesome. What I'd like to see is how many people will be in those "sold" seats for the Villanova game and those home games after the penn state game.
I hope everyone comes to EVERY game they bought tickets for, sadly I doubt that attendance at this years home games will be any different then those of past years, penn state game excluded.
Pitt should offer a special deal for season ticket holders, something like...At the end of every home game, people scan their tickets for that game and if your seat is used at 5 of the 7 home games you receive a discount (say...15%) on your season tickets for next season.
Thanks for confirming my math Paco - Lord knows it's been wrong in the past.
I agree we will rise again in attendance and have back-to-back years of growth, which will be huge.
I believe there is a loyalty program this year - not sure what the payout will be on that loyalty. Doubt they'll take a 15% haircut though.
Pitt averaged 59,197 in 2003 (28th in the nation). That was with a #10 pre-season ranking, a Heisman candidate, and visits from Notre Dame, #5 Virginia Tech, and #10 Miami. Whether 2016 will be able to match that, with Connor's story line, less ranking buzz, and no scheduled visits from any team with a pre-season (or really even an expected in-season) ranking will be a bigger question.
I don't know the exact figures. However, if Pitt sold 50,000 season tickets. I cannot grasp Pitt finishing in 46th place in attendance among the other P5 schools.
Pitt will have sold at least 54K season tickets and 4K mini-packages. It all hinges on winning. They'll probably be 70K at the PSU game with the SROs. If we lose that and tank, we very well could finish only marginally better than last year. It's always about winning.
Awesome news. And, I will always stand by anyone that believe the upper deck end zone bleacher seats should NOT be sold. Just tarp them. Seats kind of stink and the stadiums already too big. Given they're bleacher seats, it bet it reduces capacity by 7K to 10K. Perfect.
I do expect the Pitt/PSU game to set the record attendance at Heinz due to standing room only seats.
I'm sure this particular game will be harder to show up and get a ticket cheap or easy. Typical Pitt game though, it's easy.
In the mean time they should close upper endzones for most games and put a giant Pitt tarp up. Push the 45k all on top of the field.
Tarping is such a BS thing IMO, you're not improving anything in reality, just trying to look good, Putting on a little extra make up. Pitt should've built a 40,000 seat "Carrier Dome" where they put The Pete and played both sports there.
Makes perfect sense. Many Alabama fans did the same thing when they went to Happy Valley a few years back.
In a year in which we've sold over 50,000 season tickets why on earth would anyone suggest that we need to tarp seats? When you take into account season ticket holders, students and visiting team allotment tarping the upper end zone this season would have resulted in fewer tickets sold. Thousands fewer. Why on earth would anyone think that's a good idea?
How do you sell standing room only seats in a stadium where the people with tickets are already in the standing areas?
Yes but they also don't hear
Pitt should Tarp for every game aside from PSU this year. It also reduces cost to have people working that section.. and the site of 7k yellow seats.. You can also add a touch of home by having a big "Pitt" there
Pitt should Tarp for every game aside from PSU this year. It also reduces cost to have people working that section.. and the site of 7k yellow seats.. You can also add a touch of home by having a big "Pitt" there
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