Season ticket record

[ThePanthers]

Yes but they also don't hear


Pitt should Tarp for every game aside from PSU this year. It also reduces cost to have people working that section.. and the site of 7k yellow seats.. You can also add a touch of home by having a big "Pitt" there

If the season tickets are sold for those seats, and those people under the tarped section show up, where do they sit?

If they were ever going to tarp, they would have to only have that section be for single tickets for a big game like PSU prior to tickets being sold.

Aint' happening this year.

 

[ThePanthers]

Tarping is such a BS thing IMO, you're not improving anything in reality, just trying to look good, Putting on a little extra make up. Pitt should've built a 40,000 seat "Carrier Dome" where they put The Pete and played both sports there.

To me, football should be played outside. Inside football is BS.

 

[President Stache]

In recent years, I've gone to games without having bought tickets, and always gotten tickets outside before kick off for $5, $10 even free.

completely agree with you for a change. I almost used to exclusively go through scalpers. The last UPS/Pitt game at 3 rivers, I bought 4 tickets for 20 dollars each. The Notre Game last year I bought CLUB seats for 40 each from scalpers.

Any UPS fan that wants to spend 240 on season tickets is a moron. I truly dont think it happens. I know next year I wouldnt be buying UPS season tickets to go see Pitt there. They averaged more open seats last year than us, I am sure getting scalper tickets there would be just as easy.

 

[CorsosRevenge]

The thing is that I know a few people that aren't able to go and they are outright refusing to sell their tickets on Stubhub or anywhere else pedonits can get their hands on them. They'd rather swallow the the tickets than have them misused by pedopropagandists.

Have those people contact me. I need a single.

 

[Pitt79]

To me, football should be played outside. Inside football is BS.

That was one of the few realistic solutions though. You can't have everything perfect. Personally I wouldn't mind a roof when it's raining.

 

[Pitt79]

The thing is that I know a few people that aren't able to go and they are outright refusing to sell their tickets on Stubhub or anywhere else pedonits can get their hands on them. They'd rather swallow the the tickets than have them misused by pedopropagandists.

Really? if I PAID MONEY for tickets and then couldn't go, I'd rather $ell them to Sandusky and JoePa's rotted corpse rather than lose the money. LOL!

 

[pittdan77]

I really don't care who buys them. That's at least $11 million in sales by my gross calculations.

 

[HailtoPitt]

It doesn't matter how much Pitt wins, Heinz Field is too big. Yes, playing Penn State for the first time in 15 years helps to sell tickets and winning more games sells more tickets, but those things won't help to cover the empty seats for every other game. Yes, getting rid of Steve and bringing in someone who appears to be better suited, or bringing back the script, might sell some more tickets, but won't solve the problem. Even stringing several 10+ win seasons together would see plenty of empty seats in the stadium, especially after the initial excitement.

What Pitt football needs is DECADES of competent leadership and support from the administration. THAT is what's missing most. If Pitt would have had that 30 years ago, we would be in a better position now. If Pitt would have had that 20 years ago, we would be in a better position now. If Pitt would have had that 10 years ago, we would be in a better position now. But this isn't some quick fix where a new AD and Chancellor come in and suddenly the stadium keeps filling up. It will require a long time of uninterrupted consistent effort of building decades of graduates with a deep connection to football.

 

[Begbie_Nole]

If the season tickets are sold for those seats, and those people under the tarped section show up, where do they sit?

If they were ever going to tarp, they would have to only have that section be for single tickets for a big game like PSU prior to tickets being sold.

Aint' happening this year.

It is a bit of a challenge. There is the prospect that season ticket holders at a lower rate could have, for one game (PSU) a slightly different set of seats then for the rest of the season. Miami had plans to tarp off their upper endzones for all but the FSU game this year. That was a couple years ago so lets see how it plays out.

 

[pittdan77]

It is a bit of a challenge. There is the prospect that season ticket holders at a lower rate could have, for one game (PSU) a slightly different set of seats then for the rest of the season. Miami had plans to tarp off their upper endzones for all but the FSU game this year. That was a couple years ago so lets see how it plays out.

I think that as a group, we'd just as soon fill as many as possible and win. Give us that chance. That's all.

 

[Pitt79]

It doesn't matter how much Pitt wins, Heinz Field is too big. Yes, playing Penn State for the first time in 15 years helps to sell tickets and winning more games sells more tickets, but those things won't help to cover the empty seats for every other game. Yes, getting rid of Steve and bringing in someone who appears to be better suited, or bringing back the script, might sell some more tickets, but won't solve the problem. Even stringing several 10+ win seasons together would see plenty of empty seats in the stadium, especially after the initial excitement.

What Pitt football needs is DECADES of competent leadership and support from the administration. THAT is what's missing most. If Pitt would have had that 30 years ago, we would be in a better position now. If Pitt would have had that 20 years ago, we would be in a better position now. If Pitt would have had that 10 years ago, we would be in a better position now. But this isn't some quick fix where a new AD and Chancellor come in and suddenly the stadium keeps filling up. It will require a long time of uninterrupted consistent effort of building decades of graduates with a deep connection to football.

String a few of 10 win, top 20 seasons together and average 50000-55000 in a 65000 seat stadium with the Steelers playing in the same town and that's more than good enough to be honest. I don't really care if there are empty seats, I'm too busy watching the game action.

 

[CrazyPaco]

String a few of 10 win, top 20 seasons together and average 50000-55000 in a 65000 seat stadium with the Steelers playing in the same town and that's more than good enough to be honest. I don't really care if there are empty seats, I'm too busy watching the game action.

It's a 68.4K stadium now. If we string a few, meaningful top 20 seasons together we'll be pushing a 60K average. Again, we averaged 59+ in 2003.

Really? if I PAID MONEY for tickets and then couldn't go, I'd rather $ell them to Sandusky and JoePa's rotted corpse rather than lose the money. LOL!

You might be surprised by this, but I also know many people that donate money to Pitt for no reason other than to help advance Pitt.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

The reality of it is that the Pitt Athletic Department made it foolish to just purchase an individual penn state ticket or even the 3 game mini season ticket plan. An individual ticket for penn state was at least $110.00. A 3 game mini plan (including the penn state game) was essentially the same price as a full season ticket in the upper levels.
As for Pitt setting a record for number of season tickets being sold, that's awesome. What I'd like to see is how many people will be in those "sold" seats for the Villanova game and those home games after the penn state game.
I hope everyone comes to EVERY game they bought tickets for, sadly I doubt that attendance at this years home games will be any different then those of past years, penn state game excluded.
Pitt should offer a special deal for season ticket holders, something like...At the end of every home game, people scan their tickets for that game and if your seat is used at 5 of the 7 home games you receive a discount (say...15%) on your season tickets for next season.

I've been saying for awhile that Pitt should incent is season ticket holders to actually use the tickets by rebating some of the price paid every time the ticket is scanned. So, you charge a little more for tickets but the fans know they get that money back by actually going or making a greater effort to give away, donate, or sell the games you dont want to go to. This applies especially to Nov/Dec basketball games that nobody goes to.

I was wondering though, do 3 game mini plan sales count toward the season ticket record?

 

[Pitt79]

You might be surprised by this, but I also know many people that donate money to Pitt for no reason other than to help advance Pitt.

But in this case Pitt already has the money, if I can get it back by selling it to anyone, including a Nitter, it benefits me and doesn't hurt Pitt and it fills a dreaded empty seat.

 

[steel_curtain]

-There is no secret formula besides this.

-You need hype. You need to win. And you do NOT overload the schedule.

-In 2009, the year Pitt competed for the Big East Title, we had 64,000 sold against Cincy with a bcs birth on the line in the Big East

-Every time there was any type of anticipation of a good year preseason, ticket sales spiked. Take a look at the sales graph and the preseason hype the last 15 years.

-You dont do idiot things and overload the schedule with 11 P5 teams and overload the schedule with all these great teams and start losing games. You generate hype, by winning.

-If people see a team ranked in the paper or on tv, competing for a conference championship, the stadium will without question fill, constantly, and fast. It doesnt take 10 years to accomplish this, thats dumb. You be an idiot AD and overload the schedule, start losing games early and have 6-6 seasons, you kill hype and momentum.

-We had Nebraska on the schedule one year and had what, 40,000 at the stadium.

-Now lets say for example Pitt started off 4-0 this year, and landed in the Top 10 because of it. Do you know what type of hype would start pouring in and the seats that would fill up fast? A lot. Do you know what type of hype that would bring for the rest of the season and going into next season, if say, we won 10 games this year, a lot.

-Do you know what type of recruiting class we would get? A really good one, and probably a great one.

-I have no doubt this stadium would fill up if we could consistently win. There has been far to many letdowns in the last 15 years, and clearly the last 30 years. A new administration, a new coach, beating expectations in year 1 followed up by year 2, and significantly improved recruiting, means hype generated and warranted by winning, which means packed stadium in the near future.

 

[Teh Teh]

But in this case Pitt already has the money, if I can get it back by selling it to anyone, including a Nitter, it benefits me and doesn't hurt Pitt and it fills a dreaded empty seat.

That's a really dumb concept.

Why would anyone on Pitt side of things care about an empty but paid seat?? If it is filled by a pedophile instead then you put Pitt families at risk and aggrevate Pitt fans by having them cheering next you.

 

[Pitt79]

That's a really dumb concept.

Why would anyone on Pitt side of things care about an empty but paid seat?? If it is filled by a pedophile instead then you put Pitt families at risk and aggrevate Pitt fans by having them cheering next you.

"Families at risk"? Really? LOL. Penn State fans are regular, decent people, JUST LIKE YOU probably are, and by the way, so are WVU fans.

 

[Pitt79]

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-We had Nebraska on the schedule one year and had what, 40,000 at the stadium.

Wasn't Pittsburgh just hit with a devastating flood the day before or something, I seem to remember?

 

[ThePanthers]

Wasn't Pittsburgh just hit with a devastating flood the day before or something, I seem to remember?

Yes. The rememants of a hurricane came through. I remember watching boats and trash floating down the river during the game.

Etna area was totally under water along with other places.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Good memory.....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...i35nec&usg=AFQjCNFSLiL4j3NxI3-5wGjinilGqB__gQ

Yes. The rememants of a hurricane came through. I remember watching boats and trash floating down the river during the game.

Etna area was totally under water along with other places.

Wasn't Pittsburgh just hit with a devastating flood the day before or something, I seem to remember?

 

[ratking17]

Not sure how pitt79 can donate his unused season tickets when he gets his for free because of connections

 

[Pitt79]

Not sure how pitt79 can donate his unused season tickets when he gets his for free because of connections

I haven't gotten tickets before game day since 1991. I have only paid for only a handful of tickets since then, while going to at least 50-60 home games over that time. Rich people get comped freebies, nobody has a problem with that. I mean, if I'm able to do it, why shouldn't I? Some of you act like it's immoral or something?

 

[Pitt79]

Good memory.....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwip98ePzrnOAhVJJh4KHZ_DCtgQtwIIMzAE&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd1sEi35nec&usg=AFQjCNFSLiL4j3NxI3-5wGjinilGqB__gQ

I guess that accounts for the low attendance that time.

 

[CrazyPaco]

Rich people get comped freebies, nobody has a problem with that. I mean, if I'm able to do it, why shouldn't I? Some of you act like it's immoral or something?

The rich Pitt fans that I know have facilities and endowments named after them. Some people care enough to try to advance the program according to their means. Other people are fans in the same vein of those of any professional team. Pitt needs both. Your priorities are your own, and that isn't a criticism.

But "decent" is a word that should never be reserved for those resolutely championing those that enabled decades of serialized child rape.

 

[Pitt79]

But "decent" is a word that should never be reserved for those resolutely championing those that enabled decades of serialized child rape.

But those people, that are your neighbors and friends and relatives, who are people you grew up with, who live on your street, who's kids go to school with your kids, who just happen to be Penn State fans or alums, had nothing to do with enabling child rape, and they shouldn't have their pride in their school taken away from them for life just because of what Sandusky or JoePa did. I can't make it any simpler than that. They are just regular decent people. If the whole thing had happened at Pitt No way in hell would I ever disown the university and football team for life just because of it. Many of you are over the top on this. And in all honesty, if you live in Western PA and have zero friends who are PSU or WVU people, you are mentally ill and obsess too much over this nonsense.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I was wondering though, do 3 game mini plan sales count toward the season ticket record?

If (and it's always a big if with Pitt) we are counting the way that most people do then selling a 3 game ticket package to a 7 game season counts as 3/7 of a season ticket. So if we sold 700 3 game packages that would count as 300 season tickets. The term that most organizations use is "season ticket equivalents".

 

[Delpanther]

That is literally impossible unless 10K or more Penn State fans had season tickets last year AND they bought every single new season ticket sale (which I personally know is not the case). The bigger problem is Pitt fans not using them for other games.

According to the stated goals stated in prior interviews from Barnes, 53,775 stated goal - 9,770 stated new season ticket packages needed to reach goal if there was a 93% renewal rate = 44,005 season tickets renewals (and it was reported that Pitt renewed at a greater than 93% rate) on approximately 47,317 calculated season tickets sold in 2015. It has also been stated there were 45,000 season ticket holders last year (a generic round number thrown out that differs than the 47.3K calculation), so you can adjust accordingly, but it isn't that different.

Very few of those 44K season ticket renewals are nitters, and assuredly none are among the top 1,900 Pitt boosters that were offered additional PSU game tickets. What % of new season ticket sales (9,770) do you think are nitters and what percentage of the ~2K new mini-plan sales (if that included the PSU game which they cut off) are nitters? Remember, the pedonitters not employed at Burger King or delivering your morning newspaper are likely buying through their cult or buying better seats from brokers/stub hub.

PSU will have their 6K visitors allotment sold. They will buy from stub hub and other sources, and those are the ones you'll see in the lower bowl especially smattered behind the visitors sideline. A few..and I mean a few hundred... will have purchased season ticket plans and they'll probably all in the upper deck or end zone where donations aren't required and perhaps a few hundred to 1K or so bought some mini-packages. Judging by publicly available numbers, their lack of attendance at TRS in 2000 and at Beaver last year, they won't have more than 15K there and they'll be mostly behind the visitor's sideline from ticket brokers and in upper deck/endzone. Don't take trolls or posters on message boards as reflections of the norm. It will be like a typical ND game...maybe...and I say maybe because ND tickets are easier to get for non-Pitt boosters. The thing is that I know a few people that aren't able to go and they are outright refusing to sell their tickets on Stubhub or anywhere else pedonits can get their hands on them. They'd rather swallow the the tickets than have them misused by pedopropagandists. I also have heard of some people making the mistake of bringing PSU fans with them. So that probably negates each other as far as numbers. The unknown will be the standing room only tickets that they put on sale. As of right now, there are exactly 21 season ticket packages left to sell, none of them are together (all scattered singles except for a few in back to back rows in the upper corner). Season tickets are effectively sold out

Good analysis !

 

[HailtoPitt]

It's a 68.4K stadium now. If we string a few, meaningful top 20 seasons together we'll be pushing a 60K average. Again, we averaged 59+ in 2003.

Pitt can average 60+K tickets SOLD with some decent seasons, but that doesn't mean people go to the games. The result is plenty of empty seats in a stadium where you can spot a single empty seat from an airplane.

Heinz Field is too big for Pitt football. We need a smaller stadium where tickets are more in demand and have a higher value, creating a fuller stadium with a better experience for players and fans. Even an 11-0 Pitt won't fill Heinz if the final opponent is 6-5 Syracuse.

 

[Mthomas]

Hey guys I'm just telling it like it is.Buying a season ticket was cheaper for me than buying(scalping) a ticket from a third party.Plus I'd much rather give the money to the Pitt Athletic Dept than some Joesmoe!Your lucky tickets are what they are at Pitt,your AD isn't ripping you off,like some!

what do you play to watch that goofy coach up at creepy valley dude's a tool

and you pay to see that??

Hail to Pitt

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

That is literally impossible unless 10K or more Penn State fans had season tickets last year AND they bought every single new season ticket sale (which I personally know is not the case). The bigger problem is Pitt fans not using them for other games.

According to the stated goals stated in prior interviews from Barnes, 53,775 stated goal - 9,770 stated new season ticket packages needed to reach goal if there was a 93% renewal rate = 44,005 season tickets renewals (and it was reported that Pitt renewed at a greater than 93% rate) on approximately 47,317 calculated season tickets sold in 2015. It has also been stated there were 45,000 season ticket holders last year (a generic round number thrown out that differs than the 47.3K calculation), so you can adjust accordingly, but it isn't that different.

Very few of those 44K season ticket renewals are nitters, and assuredly none are among the top 1,900 Pitt boosters that were offered additional PSU game tickets. What % of new season ticket sales (9,770) do you think are nitters and what percentage of the ~2K new mini-plan sales (if that included the PSU game which they cut off) are nitters? Remember, the pedonitters not employed at Burger King or delivering your morning newspaper are likely buying through their cult or buying better seats from brokers/stub hub.

PSU will have their 6K visitors allotment sold. They will buy from stub hub and other sources, and those are the ones you'll see in the lower bowl especially smattered behind the visitors sideline. A few..and I mean a few hundred... will have purchased season ticket plans and they'll probably all in the upper deck or end zone where donations aren't required and perhaps a few hundred to 1K or so bought some mini-packages. Judging by publicly available numbers, their lack of attendance at TRS in 2000 and at Beaver last year, they won't have more than 15K there and they'll be mostly behind the visitor's sideline from ticket brokers and in upper deck/endzone. Don't take trolls or posters on message boards as reflections of the norm. It will be like a typical ND game...maybe...and I say maybe because ND tickets are easier to get for non-Pitt boosters. The thing is that I know a few people that aren't able to go and they are outright refusing to sell their tickets on Stubhub or anywhere else pedonits can get their hands on them. They'd rather swallow the the tickets than have them misused by pedopropagandists. I also have heard of some people making the mistake of bringing PSU fans with them. So that probably negates each other as far as numbers. The unknown will be the standing room only tickets that they put on sale. As of right now, there are exactly 21 season ticket packages left to sell, none of them are together (all scattered singles except for a few in back to back rows in the upper corner). Season tickets are effectively sold out

This is funny to me. I remember staters crying when steve made them buy temple tickets. Now they're buying tens of thousands of pitt season tickets? Come on.

 

[CrazyPaco]

But those people, that are your neighbors and friends and relatives, who are people you grew up with, who live on your street, who's kids go to school with your kids, who just happen to be Penn State fans or alums, had nothing to do with enabling child rape, and they shouldn't have their pride in their school taken away from them for life just because of what Sandusky or JoePa did. I can't make it any simpler than that. They are just regular decent people. If the whole thing had happened at Pitt No way in hell would I ever disown the university and football team for life just because of it. Many of you are over the top on this. And in all honesty, if you live in Western PA and have zero friends who are PSU or WVU people, you are mentally ill and obsess too much over this nonsense.

Bullshit. Based on the past and continued conduct of their institution, no one should be taking pride in that institution. Their continued hero and program worship, and insistence on the keep-the-show-going, win-at-any-cost status quo, and intransigence on accepting any culpability are just a continuation of the culture that they willingly participate in; a culture that was directly responsible for enabling decades of covering up every sort of crime, the most shocking of which was the serial rape of children in the name of football.

Sure they are neighbors and relatives. They were neighbors and relatives of in 1930s Germany as well, and every single other atrocity riddled cult of personality that has existed in history. It is not just their complacency with what is swirling around them that is really offensive, but the outright hostility to any one or thing daring to impinge on the hollow facade of their object of worship.

If this had happened to Pitt, I would have pulled all support of the university if they wouldn't have shut the program down until there was a complete and thorough cleansing of anyone that even remotely whiffed such a scandal. The entire football staff should have been jettisoned immediately, and the football program suspended until they brought in entirely new and outside institutional leadership. I pulled support for my other alma mater for much less than that. Hell, I would have pulled my support for Pitt if they would have so much as brought in the revolting Tom Bradley as a waterboy.

You and I have a very different definition of decent. The Penn State alumni, faculty, and fans that have stood up to the verbal and physical abuse to defend the true victims of this monstrocity are the ones reflecting decency. The one's that have been spit on and assaulted outside Beaver Stadium for daring to hold a sign with the words "Put abused kids first". They are few and far between.

100s of lives ruined by the culture those cretins are championing. I don't understand how anyone isn't nauseated by it. Selectively choosing to apply morality and integrity only to situations that don't infringe on the self-worth one derives from passively associating with a sports team is not my definition of decent. Like all admirable qualities, decency is revealed not when it is easy, but when it is hard.

 

[CrazyPaco]

Pitt can average 60+K tickets SOLD with some decent seasons, but that doesn't mean people go to the games. The result is plenty of empty seats in a stadium where you can spot a single empty seat from an airplane.

Heinz Field is too big for Pitt football. We need a smaller stadium where tickets are more in demand and have a higher value, creating a fuller stadium with a better experience for players and fans. Even an 11-0 Pitt won't fill Heinz if the final opponent is 6-5 Syracuse.

Disagree. Pitt averaged a legit 59K in 2003. If Pitt was 11-0, and especially if it had had hype going into that hypothetical season, Heinz would certainly have over 60K, under normal circumstances, for a 6-5 Syracuse team.

 

[Piranha]

Pitt can average 60+K tickets SOLD with some decent seasons, but that doesn't mean people go to the games. The result is plenty of empty seats in a stadium where you can spot a single empty seat from an airplane.

Heinz Field is too big for Pitt football. We need a smaller stadium where tickets are more in demand and have a higher value, creating a fuller stadium with a better experience for players and fans. Even an 11-0 Pitt won't fill Heinz if the final opponent is 6-5 Syracuse.

In 2003 we were 4-2 playing a below average SU team. There was over 61k there. I was in the Upper Deck Corner and it was filled to my surprise. I was living out of town at the time and ended up getting tickets at the last minute.