Here’s what was said to him about Pitt by an anonymous ACC coach
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Well we haven’t had a favorable league schedule TO THIS POINT
We have a favorable league schedule FROM THIS POINT
Lol nothing. They're old maybe???I think all of the comparisons back to the Dixon era teams are pretty lazy. Yes the guards are physical and experienced but what else is similar?
Unfavorable really. All Q3/4 games left but 2. Losing more than 1 of those would be a killer.
Not sure I agree with Nelly. He has been a solid addition at eat and has helped us win a few games. Let’s see how he does come in tourney time.Here’s what was said to him about Pitt by an anonymous ACC coach
Pittsburgh
“They remind me of the old Ben Howland/Jamie Dixon teams. Their physicality can really mess you up. They’re an old team, and Jeff Capel lets them take a lot of ownership. They are very serious about it. They communicate to each other, and they hold each other accountable. Jamarius Burton is very strong. You have to have somebody in the gap on him. You have to take away Blake Hinson’s 3s, make him put it on the floor. A defender with length can disrupt his shots because he’s not that big. They don’t have an inside presence. They’ve had a favorable league schedule to this point. They don’t score the ball in the post, but they’re sharing the ball. Nelly Cummings has been an unbelievable addition.”
they don’t beat UNc in chapel hill without Nelly for sure. He rescued them at a time when it looked like UNc could pull away. They need him and he’s been a great addition.Not sure I agree with Nelly. He has been a solid addition at eat and has helped us win a few games. Let’s see how he does come in tourney time.
They left out the final sentence for the sake of protecting the anonymity of the ACC coach..."Nelly Cummings has been an unbelievable addition. In this current state of affairs you get what you pay for and Pitt must have ponied up big time for this kid"...Here’s what was said to him about Pitt by an anonymous ACC coach
Pittsburgh
“They remind me of the old Ben Howland/Jamie Dixon teams. Their physicality can really mess you up. They’re an old team, and Jeff Capel lets them take a lot of ownership. They are very serious about it. They communicate to each other, and they hold each other accountable. Jamarius Burton is very strong. You have to have somebody in the gap on him. You have to take away Blake Hinson’s 3s, make him put it on the floor. A defender with length can disrupt his shots because he’s not that big. They don’t have an inside presence. They’ve had a favorable league schedule to this point. They don’t score the ball in the post, but they’re sharing the ball. Nelly Cummings has been an unbelievable addition.”
Dixon would have a stroke with some of the shots Hinson and Cummings take.I think all of the comparisons back to the Dixon era teams are pretty lazy. Yes the guards are physical and experienced but what else is similar?
If the losses to WVU and Michigan were by say... 8-10 points instead of 20+ points.... our NET rating would be much higher.Outside of playing the Big 12 and having it count against our conference record, I'm not sure what more we could have done to this point. This hardly feels like a cheap record.
How old and physical they are and how ownership is given to those 5 players in their 5th or 6th year that run the show and play their best in the final minutes. It's the same reason, given all or most of those old guys are gone after this season (Hinson being the only of the 5 that can return), why some fans question whether this remarkable, awesome, unexpected season so far is simply a one off. Or, hopefully, a sign of things to come.I think all of the comparisons back to the Dixon era teams are pretty lazy. Yes the guards are physical and experienced but what else is similar?
If the losses to WVU and Michigan were by say... 8-10 points instead of 20+ points.... our NET rating would be much higher.
The NET takes into account scoring margins. Pitt has a lot of CLOSE wins. And 2 of our losses are by massive blowouts.
The NET needs to be changed to put less emphasis on margin of victory and more on actual victory/loss. Margins can be skewed by playing walkons at the end of game or garbage time scoring on outcomes that are not in doubt.
If Pitt played their starters in the final 2 minutes against WVU and turns that into say... a 12-15 point loss... it might've helped their NET ranking a little bit. And that's stupid.
They have had a league schedule to this point? The person who said that is nuts!Here’s what was said to him about Pitt by an anonymous ACC coach
Pittsburgh
“They remind me of the old Ben Howland/Jamie Dixon teams. Their physicality can really mess you up. They’re an old team, and Jeff Capel lets them take a lot of ownership. They are very serious about it. They communicate to each other, and they hold each other accountable. Jamarius Burton is very strong. You have to have somebody in the gap on him. You have to take away Blake Hinson’s 3s, make him put it on the floor. A defender with length can disrupt his shots because he’s not that big. They don’t have an inside presence. They’ve had a favorable league schedule to this point. They don’t score the ball in the post, but they’re sharing the ball. Nelly Cummings has been an unbelievable addition.”
Have you not watched TCU at all over the past few years? Dixon has evolved, just like any successful coach does.Dixon would have a stroke with some of the shots Hinson and Cummings take.
Bingo - why not just weigh outcomes based on something simple, like outcome of >=10 or <10?If the losses to WVU and Michigan were by say... 8-10 points instead of 20+ points.... our NET rating would be much higher.
The NET takes into account scoring margins. Pitt has a lot of CLOSE wins. And 2 of our losses are by massive blowouts.
The NET needs to be changed to put less emphasis on margin of victory and more on actual victory/loss. Margins can be skewed by playing walkons at the end of game or garbage time scoring on outcomes that are not in doubt.
If Pitt played their starters in the final 2 minutes against WVU and turns that into say... a 12-15 point loss... it might've helped their NET ranking a little bit. And that's stupid.
Agree. I am just saying Nelly on his own is not the difference for our turnaround. Up until a few games ago nobody here wanted Nelly to shoot. And he was a high turnover guy.they don’t beat UNc in chapel hill without Nelly for sure. He rescued them at a time when it looked like UNc could pull away. They need him and he’s been a great addition.
If you take Burton off this team they’re a bad team. If you take nelly/Nike/Elliot off this team they prob have lost 3 more games.
Burton is invaluable but I definitely wouldn’t diminish the other 3 who have all stepped up when Pitt needed it
They've all contributed and won games for us. I'd argue without Federiko we lose the second UNC game and Miami game. But I can do that with a bunch of our guys. Without Burton, without Nelly or Elliott or Hinson.Agree. I am just saying Nelly on his own is not the difference for our turnaround. Up until a few games ago nobody here wanted Nelly to shoot. And he was a high turnover guy.
Bingo - why not just weigh outcomes based on something simple, like outcome of >=10 or <10?
I don't even like that. A 74-65 game could've been 70-50 with 2 mins to go and the loser made it look better against the winner's walk-ons. Conversely a 81-70 game could have been 73-70 with a minute to go and FTs made the margin >10.Bingo - why not just weigh outcomes based on something simple, like outcome of >=10 or <10?
What Vegas looks at and what the tournament committee looks at should NOT be the same metric.Because its efficiency based and every possession matters the same to a certain extent. Vegas is looking at which teams are better not necessarily who wins games. Its why a school like TCU is 30 spots higher in NET than RPI.
What Vegas looks at and what the tournament committee looks at should NOT be the same metric.
Have you not watched TCU at all over the past few years? Dixon has evolved, just like any successful coach does.
I dont watch non Pitt games often- the comparison wasn't made to TCU though. This team is being compared to Dixons Pitt teams. Jamie Dixon of 2008 or 2009 would call timeout and remove Hinson from the game when he pulls up and shoots an NBA 3 with 17 on the shot clock.Have you not watched TCU at all over the past few years? Dixon has evolved, just like any successful coach does.
Amazing that each game someone different has stepped up. Burton is still the key to this group.They've all contributed and won games for us. I'd argue without Federiko we lose the second UNC game and Miami game. But I can do that with a bunch of our guys. Without Burton, without Nelly or Elliott or Hinson.
When I’ve watched TCU I’ve noticed that Dixon micromanages in much the same way he did at Pitt. If he’s slowed down it’s because he is older.Have you not watched TCU at all over the past few years? Dixon has evolved, just like any successful coach does.
Good stuff other than the favorable schedule. It’s not hard to see that we have had one of the hardest conference schedules to this point.Here’s what was said to him about Pitt by an anonymous ACC coach
Pittsburgh
“They remind me of the old Ben Howland/Jamie Dixon teams. Their physicality can really mess you up. They’re an old team, and Jeff Capel lets them take a lot of ownership. They are very serious about it. They communicate to each other, and they hold each other accountable. Jamarius Burton is very strong. You have to have somebody in the gap on him. You have to take away Blake Hinson’s 3s, make him put it on the floor. A defender with length can disrupt his shots because he’s not that big. They don’t have an inside presence. They’ve had a favorable league schedule to this point. They don’t score the ball in the post, but they’re sharing the ball. Nelly Cummings has been an unbelievable addition.”
And 1 of the easiest going forward - only 2 games against teams with winning conference records, Syracuse and Miami, and we have beat both of them already. Just have to take care of business these last 8 games.Good stuff other than the favorable schedule. It’s not hard to see that we have had one of the hardest conference schedules to this point.
What Vegas looks at and what the tournament committee looks at should NOT be the same metric.